GDT: Toronto @ Detroit - Oct 3 7pm SN

[Puckstuff]

Only one of them made the team out of camp last season.

Maybe he will be better then Knies and if he is that's great because I think Knies is going to be a great player as long as he's healthy.

But Robertson isn't better than Knies today.

Not yet.

I would bet on Robertson having more offensive output in the 2024-2025 season then Knies if he’s deployed correctly and it shouldn’t be close. I’m also higher on Robertson than most, I think he will surprise and find a way to score 40 in his career similar to how Jared McMann did it. Maybe not this season because he won’t get PP1 time but I could see him hitting in his career. I also understand Knies can do things physically that don’t show up in the box score that Robertson can’t and Knies can play that power forward role that’s so valuable, especially come playoff time. They both bring different things.

 

[Smif]

Domi Tavares Nylander was a line in practice today, so it looks like Nylander at center could be over.

Lol, they said they were going to give it more than the two games he got last year. What did he get, half a period this year?

 

[notDatsyuk]

I agree on the shooting percentage, but that was no minor league lineup tonight.

If he is our sixth or seventh or eighth best forward then we are a deep team offensively.

The means sarcasm or at least tongue-in-cheek. He's been very good.

 

[conFABulator]

The means sarcasm or at least tongue-in-cheek. He's been very good.

I wasn't sure what the emoji referred to specifically and missed the sarcasm I guess. Yes, be has been very good, almost dominant at times.

 

[rumman]

A super minor gripe, but what’s the point of playing Kampf on the pp? That will never happen so why bother with the reps? Wouldn’t it make more sense to put in the development time/practice into someone like Quillan?

Maybe they’re shopping him………..

 

[conFABulator]

Maybe they’re shopping him………..

I wondered that too. Top line and PP could have been to showcase him. Of course, it would have been better for us if he played better. He was fine and that's what he is. He is overpaid for fine.

 

[Suntouchable13]

As far as goaltending is concerned. I reckon they will just alternate Woll and Stolarz at the beginning of the season. certain trends will dictate if they should run with 1 goalie over another later in the season. The first 2 games are a back-to-back anyway, so you would see Woll in 1 game and Stolarz in the other regardless.

 

[rumman]

I wondered that too. Top line and PP could have been to showcase him. Of course, it would have been better for us if he played better. He was fine and that's what he is. He is overpaid for fine.

LA are apparently looking for bottom six C help, package Kampt with Lilly to LA……….

 

[ULF_55]

It amazes me how many people were bad mouthing him and wanted him in Europe because he wasn't happy with how he was being handled...

I don't think anyone wanted him in Europe.
He didn't want to play for Toronto.
He caved and signed.

 

[ULF_55]

Lilly in playoff form with a pass to the other team in our end.

Following a pass from Kampf to the other team.

Great sequence there by both of them.

 

[ULF_55]

Webber is not terrible, but he is not close to the NHL and so many people had him penciled in as a call up or said he was close.

This board is clueless sometimes.

Not sure "many people" had him penciled in.

My guess many thought he was no where close, and he may have exceeded expectations. Looked better against the Wings NHL players than against the prospect players.

 

[ULF_55]

Excellent kill boys

Liljegren and Rifai both played 4.5 minutes on the PK.

Did a great job.

 

[ULF_55]

i'll complain about this all season, just like i did when he was on sportsnet before lmaoo

We didn't let Kypreos back on the air.

 

[ULF_55]

Liljegren hasn’t been at his best for sure, but he is by far our leader in ice time, has 3 SOG, 2 blocked shots, not exactly a terrible night. We’re still playing their A lineup and up 1-0.

He got more comfortable as the game progressed.
Not unusual for NHL players to be a step behind non-NHLers who are going all out in preseason.

Leafs/Marlies scrubs just beat a NHL team last night.
Anyone think they'd beat them again in a month?

 

[notbias]

I don't think anyone wanted him in Europe.
He didn't want to play for Toronto.
He caved and signed.

Lots of people wanted to "teach him a lesson" or "send a message"

 

[ULF_55]

Just watched the highlights and they were pretty boring... Can't imagine how boring the game was.

Can't wait for Wednesday! Go Leafs Go!

Watched Avs-Knights game and turned it off.
That was boring.

 

[notbias]

Not sure "many people" had him penciled in.

My guess many thought he was no where close, and he may have exceeded expectations. Looked better against the Wings NHL players than against the prospect players.

First day on the boards? The hype around a likely career AHLer was very high.

It's likely because he is tall, nothing else.

He looked nowhere close to NHL ready in any game, his decision making is bad.

 

[ULF_55]

$775,000 if hes sent to the marlies.

The “Wade Redden Rule” (paragraph 50.5(d)(i)(B)(6)), states that for purposes of computing a team’s average salary for cap compliance, salaries for players on a one-way contract count to the extent that they are higher than the minimum NHL salary plus $375,000.

 

[ULF_55]

Lots of people wanted to "teach him a lesson" or "send a message"

He caved.
Lesson learned.

 

[ULF_55]

First day on the boards? The hype around a likely career AHLer was very high.

It's likely because he is tall, nothing else.

He looked nowhere close to NHL ready in any game, his decision making is bad.

I should ask you the same question.

You pay attention to HF's hype?

Not to worry, naivety will wear off.

 

[notbias]

I should ask you the same question.

You pay attention to HF's hype?

Not to worry, naivety will wear off.

We are on HF, I am posting about posters on HF, what are you rambling about?

He caved.
Lesson learned.

If he was guaranteed some things to sign, did he cave?

Maybe Tre learned the lesson.

That whole thread was a bunch of 50 year old men crying, not sure if you were included in that, but lots of people wanted him to "learn a lesson"

 

[egd27]

You’re right about McMann,he hasn’t looked good, especially his skating. Perhaps he’s still working off the rust from that injury or maybe a bit hesitant as he tests it out in game situations. Certainly should be no where near the top 6 at this point.

IMO McMann is dining out on a couple of 5 game hot streaks in February and March. (11 his 15 goals).

I'd like to see a little more consistency before considering him a legitimate top 6 F.

 

[Confucius]

says the guy posting on a pre-season thread.

He is facing an NHL lineup.

lol, oh I care. I was referring to the players who don’t care about preseason and aren’t trying, the ones just out for a skate and loosening up playing not to get injured.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Lilly in playoff form with a pass to the other team in our end.

I wanted him to become that top 4 dman but I just don't see it. Watching his giveaways and how easily he is knocked off the puck confirms he's moved himself down the depth chart. Last night, both Rifai and Myers looked so much more poised when battling for a puck in the corner or blocking shots. The only thing that might save him is the fact he plays RD.

 

[conFABulator]

I wanted him to become that top 4 dman but I just don't see it. Watching his giveaways and how easily he is knocked off the puck confirms he's moved himself down the depth chart. Last night, both Rifai and Myers looked so much more poised when battling for a puck in the corner or blocking shots. The only thing that might save him is the fact he plays RD.

Yeah, same for me. It's one part Liljegren's play combined with the play of the depth guys we have. Hakanpaa, Timmins, Rifai, and Myers bring comfort that we won't miss Lilly.

Having said this, I wouldn't give him away or dump him...I would trade him for a decent return though...maybe a second rounder and a B prospect or vet with low salary. I would also package him with Kampf and/or Jarnkrok for a useful piece or a bigger basket of picks