Confirmed Trade: [TOR/STL/MIN] O'Reilly, Acciari, Pillar to TOR; Abramov, Gaudette, ‘23 1st, ‘23 3rd, ‘24 2nd to STL; ‘25 4th to MIN

[SwedishFire]

With the assets they have and the cap room they have. Murray is LTIR now.

You mean Marner, w Nylander, T Liljegren, Sandin as trade assets, so yes. Or do you count 2024 + 2025 1st as assets as well?

 

[bentharbs]

This is the third straight season that Kyle Dubas has traded for another teams captain.

2021: Trades for Nick Foligno.

2022: Trades for Mark Giordano.

2023: Trades for Ryan O'Reilly.

If Dubas hits 66.67% of these types of trades I think it's a net success.

 

[BomaLightDevils]

How long is ROR contract

 

[yurnxt]

am I the only one that thinks this trade stinks for Toronto? Someone with sanity please back me up here….

ROR and Acciari are both excellent pickups for Toronto and the Blues did very well in the return for the two. Win win trade for now in my book.

All the people claiming ROR is completely useless, washed and he sucks now are completely wrong. He hasn't had the best season for any number of reasons from his now healed broken foot to Berube trying to fit a square peg round hole with trying Kyrou on ROR's line mixing oil with water for far too long. The Blues have underperformed as a team the entire season and ROR isn't an exception. The the idea that he is totally washed up is a absolute complete joke. Check out the ROR JFresh player card. Hell, it was still well under a year ago he was once again defensively dominate against the future Cup Winners and had a great playoff performance giving MacKinnon fits. He is at least 90% of the player today as he was in his prime. He is a monster of a weapon defensively, he can be brilliant offensively, he is killer in the face-off circle, he's typically more than competent on PK while simultaneously having a history of further elevating his play in the playoffs. He brings all that and a Stanley Cup winning pedigree to Toronto. As long as Toronto fans aren't expecting more from ROR than a truly elite defensive forward who regularly contributes on the score sheet with plus face-off skill and plus, PK skills while rarely taking any penalties himself and typically being an even stronger player in the playoffs, they will be thrilled to have him. ROR can be deployed against whatever one line on the opposing team you choose and he will likely ensure that 80-90% the opposing lines expected production will be nixed instantly. He does the little things better than damn near anyone in the NHL. His Conn Smythe award wasn't a mistake, he earned that shit for a reason and he is still mostly the same player.

Acciari is a really legitimate player of the exact type that every single team in the NHL wants in their bottom 6 in the playoffs. Acciari is an amazing stealth pick-up of sorts who recently had a 20 goal season, who instantly becomes the Leafs leader in hits and who was one of the few players playing pretty well for the Blues this year. He is a bottom 6 Swiss Army knife. Toronto is looking fantastic. As a Blues fan, I'd love to watch the Rangers and the Leafs go at it in playoffs at some point.

 

[Leaf Fans]

You mean Marner, w Nylander, T Liljegren, Sandin as trade assets, so yes. Or do you count 2024 + 2025 1st as assets as well?

I counted everything+ the prospects.

And he’ll be back before the playoffs start for sure. So…

He might be. If he misses the minimum he can be back just after the deadline, but if he is not ready he might have to wait longer. Who knows. At least he is skating.

 

[Foppberg]

I counted everything+ the prospects.


He might be. If he misses the minimum he can be back just after the deadline, but if he is not ready he might have to wait longer. Who knows. At least he is skating.

Well, unless he’s out until the playoffs you’d be screwed if you made another big trade based off of that cap space.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Well, unless he’s out until the playoffs you’d be screwed if you made another big trade based off of that cap space.

Well, I suppose the Leafs would, but I am sure the organization has a better idea than we do, and will base their decision making with that in mind. As of now they have more room.

 

[Necrobutcher]

Matthews-Tavares-ROR is a pretty lethal center trio and Acciari is a really good bottom 6 player. They're one solid Dman acquisition away from being the #1 contender in my books.

 

[Bruce Granville]

But how good is ROR in net?

Kidding aside, now trade Rielly for Gavrikov and Korpisalo…and get Kane.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

How long is ROR contract

I think it runs through game 4 of the first round

 

[dirtydanglez]

congrats. dubas finally took a swing

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Great trade for the Leafs.

 

[SpitfireHabs1]

Toronto needs Defensive minded defenseman, but as per Toronto's yearly pick ups, they go out and add a 3rd line center who's lost a few steps and now plays a more grind it out style of game, it's probably because he cant skate like he used to and then a 4th line/Depth Center. Just think it would have been more wise for Dubas to idk maybe try another approach this year like picking up Defense instead of trying to load up the front end like every year. That's what's going to hold the Leafs back again this year, they dont have a Hedman, Sergachev on the back end that are hard defending Defenseman or a Vasilevskiy in net who is a game changer. Come playoff time is Toronto a playoff team or a regular season team. Better complete teams will adapt to there tendencies and use systems to shut down there top two lines (as we've seen the past few years) and then once the leafs top players are handcuffed that's pretty much it for the leafs again, not enough on the back end or in net to stop the inevitable. But Hell Dubas is the GM and if he wants to Gamble on the same approach every playoffs then it's his and his coaching staffs jobs on the line.

 

[AmeriHab]

Dubas finally deciding they're ready to go for it.

 

[NewEraGM]

this is dumb - it was comical. Gave tampa 6 and 7 but sure you do you boo boo.

Good teams overcome that. It happens to every team.

It’s honestly one of the most pathetic excuses that you still blame it on the refs a full year later. Leafs scored one goal in game 7. That’s on the leafs not the refs. Leafs got 3PPs in game 7. Lightning had 2.

Leafs choked , not the refs

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Cinderella's real problem wasn't her wardrobe.
Cinderella's real problem was, at heart, she wasn't a princess...she was a scullery maid.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I think it runs through game 4 of the first round

Well, they stop getting salary at the beginning of the playoffs. Also, I doubt th the Leafs will sweep Tampa, but I hope you are right.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

 

[NewEraGM]

What injury concerns? He broke his foot blocking a shot. He played 23 minutes that game and has come back the past 3 games and looked fine.

If you want to look at ppg go ahead and look at what Folignos ppg were for years leading up to that trade. And then look at how ROR has contributed pretty much every year he’s played aside from this season where the whole team has been a mess.

They aren’t comparable players and should never be. If you’re worried about trading for someone at that age who’s having a down season , sure I get that. But the comparison to Foligno in regards to them being similar players, and the injury concerns are just not logical.

Could he get injured tomorrow? Sure, anyone could he’s been an extremely healthy player though, and he’s been a horse in the minutes he plays. That’s not a risk factor that you have to worry about more than any other player who is playing hockey in the NHL.

I disagree.

And for the record , my point was never about the last paragraph that you wrote. Obviously anyone can get injured. My point was the injury concerns were more than just the basic ones but more like the ones associated to Kane….ongoing nagging injuries

 

[dirtydanglez]

Toronto needs Defensive minded defenseman, but as per Toronto's yearly pick ups, they go out and add a 3rd line center who's lost a few steps and now plays a more grind it out style of game, it's probably because he cant skate like he used to and then a 4th line/Depth Center. Just think it would have been more wise for Dubas to idk maybe try another approach this year like picking up Defense instead of trying to load up the front end like every year. That's what's going to hold the Leafs back again this year, they dont have a Hedman, Sergachev on the back end that are hard defending Defenseman or a Vasilevskiy in net who is a game changer. Come playoff time is Toronto a playoff team or a regular season team. Better complete teams will adapt to there tendencies and use systems to shut down there top two lines (as we've seen the past few years) and then once the leafs top players are handcuffed that's pretty much it for the leafs again, not enough on the back end or in net to stop the inevitable. But Hell Dubas is the GM and if he wants to Gamble on the same approach every playoffs then it's his and his coaching staffs jobs on the line.

you lose any credibility you have by calling ror a 3rd line center. he's a top 6 center with elite defensive skills.

 

[SpitfireHabs1]

you lose any credibility you have by calling ror a 3rd line center. he's a top 6 center with elite defensive skills.

If you call a 19 point player on a Stanley cup contender a top 6 player then I'd say the leafs are in trouble, the deed has been done nothing to do for leaf fans other then hype him up haha, he isnt top 6 anymore on a good team and if you think so I believe you have lost credibility because you havent watched the blues this year to much then.

 

[yurnxt]

Bingo! The ROR completely fell off and will be out of the league completely soon narrative is a pure garbage.

 

[Michoulicious]

Isn't ROR a rental?

 

[Mountlaine]

Now somehow get Gavrikov and Korpisalo from Columbus and Toronto wins it all

 

[NewEraGM]

Leafs better win