Confirmed Trade: [TOR/STL/MIN] O'Reilly, Acciari, Pillar to TOR; Abramov, Gaudette, ‘23 1st, ‘23 3rd, ‘24 2nd to STL; ‘25 4th to MIN

[Tobias Kahun]

Just the space of $1,850,000. I don’t think the pay the salary

They pay 25% of his remaining salary.

 

[oceanchild]

Seems like a massive overpayment to me. It’s funny how the HF community values picks so much and Toronto just traded a first, second , third and a fourth, for a guy that is having a down year.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I mean he’s not even 0.5PPG and there are injury concerns from what I read above. I think he’ll be better than foligno but not miles better.

What injury concerns? He broke his foot blocking a shot. He played 23 minutes that game and has come back the past 3 games and looked fine.

If you want to look at ppg go ahead and look at what Folignos ppg were for years leading up to that trade. And then look at how ROR has contributed pretty much every year he’s played aside from this season where the whole team has been a mess.

They aren’t comparable players and should never be. If you’re worried about trading for someone at that age who’s having a down season , sure I get that. But the comparison to Foligno in regards to them being similar players, and the injury concerns are just not logical.

Could he get injured tomorrow? Sure, anyone could he’s been an extremely healthy player though, and he’s been a horse in the minutes he plays. That’s not a risk factor that you have to worry about more than any other player who is playing hockey in the NHL.

 

[93LEAFS]

Yes. Could definitely see a ROR Tavares shutdown line in important minutes during the playoffs

I could also see ROR on Matthews LW. Solves our biggest forward need in our top 6. My only worry about JT and ROR together is they really need to dominate the cycle since both aren't exactly fleet of foot.

 

[Cotton]

Excited to see how quickly Leafs fans turn on ROR after they realize he can't skate anymore.

That's what was said about Tavares, he p/pg, no complaints.

 

[JoeSakic13]

They just traded for Cal O'Reilly too.

Now they just need to trade for Riley Nash and Mike Reilly.

Riley-O’Reilly-O’Reilly

Reilly - Rielly

 

[BertCorbeau]

Seems like a massive overpayment to me. It’s funny how the HF community values picks so much and Toronto just traded a first, second , third and a fourth, for a guy that is having a down year.

Retention is a big factor here .. they paid that price to retain 75% of his salary. And also acquired Acciari who probably holds mid-round value on his own.

So that much retention and a depth piece ... I don't believe the value is that bad.

 

[93LEAFS]

What injury concerns? He broke his foot blocking a shot. He played 23 minutes that game and has come back the past 3 games and looked fine.

If you want to look at ppg go ahead and look at what Folignos ppg were for years leading up to that trade. And then look at how ROR has contributed pretty much every year he’s played aside from this season where the whole team has been a mess.

They aren’t comparable players and should never be. If you’re worried about trading for someone at that age who’s having a down season , sure I get that. But the comparison to Foligno in regards to them being similar players, and the injury concerns are just not logical.

Could he get injured tomorrow? Sure, anyone could he’s been an extremely healthy player though, and he’s been a horse in the minutes he plays. That’s not a risk factor that you have to worry about more than any other player who is playing hockey in the NHL.

Yeah, Leafs can likely get him down to a more reasonable minutes threshold, unless needed during the playoffs. Likley won't be first team PP, and he won't be as heavily relied on for the PK.

 

[binop7]

I could also see ROR on Matthews LW. Solves our biggest forward need in our top 6. My only worry about JT and ROR together is they really need to dominate the cycle since both aren't exactly fleet of foot.

Would be intriguing to see ROR with Nylander as well. Hopefully he is healthy

 

[BleedBlue14]

Would be intriguing to see ROR with Nylander as well. Hopefully he is healthy

I’m not going to act like I know Nylander playstyle. But ROR as shown this season doesn’t mesh well with up and down full offense players. He plays a controlled heavy forecheck game. He may honestly be best fit on the 3rd line for you guys opening up matchups for your top 6 or simply just feasting on the other teams bottom end guys due to them having to matchup that way.

It’s a nightmare for other teams. Was a great move by the Leafs imo interested to see how it plays out.

 

[Eggtimer]

Seems like a massive overpayment to me. It’s funny how the HF community values picks so much and Toronto just traded a first, second , third and a fourth, for a guy that is having a down year.

For some teams it would be an overpayment ( teams that are nkt true contenders like Toronto)
But for Toronto , it’s very likely late picks and depth pieces t will probably never be impact NHL’ers. Teams have a finite window. Leafs are going for it as they should . I hate the Leafs and hope they choke again but this move is pretty damn good IMO. Stacks them uo the middle amd adds playoff experience and a player that has proven to be able to produce and be clutch in the playoffs. Entire purpose is to win the Cup. Not collect draft picks.

 

[JeffP]

I wanted ROR in Dallas and I'm glad they didn't push this much in for a rental.
These prices are TOO DAMN HIGH (dubas' hands are tied obviously)

congrats to both teams tho, good player-really good return

 

[binop7]

I’m not going to act like I know Nylander playstyle. But ROR as shown this season doesn’t mesh well with up and down full offense players. He plays a controlled heavy forecheck game. He may honestly be best fit on the 3rd line for you guys opening up matchups for your top 6 or simply just feasting on the other teams bottom end guys due to them having to matchup that way.

It’s a nightmare for other teams. Was a great move by the Leafs imo interested to see how it plays out.

If he can dig pucks out of corners and on the boards for Nylander he's a massive improvement on Kerfoot.

 

[oceanchild]

For some teams it would be an overpayment. But for Toronto , it’s very likely late picks and depth pieces t will probably never be impact NHL’ers. Teams have a finite window. Leafs are going for it as they should . I hate the Leafs and hope they choke again but this move is pretty damn good IMO. Stacks them uo the middle amd adds playoff experience and a player that has proven to be able to produce and be clutch in the playoffs. Entire purpose is to win the Cup. Not collect draft picks.

Love the after the fact rationalization, had this be proposed on the board, people would have shot it down.

 

[Antropovsky]

I’m not going to act like I know Nylander playstyle. But ROR as shown this season doesn’t mesh well with up and down full offense players. He plays a controlled heavy forecheck game. He may honestly be best fit on the 3rd line for you guys opening up matchups for your top 6 or simply just feasting on the other teams bottom end guys due to them having to matchup that way.

It’s a nightmare for other teams. Was a great move by the Leafs imo interested to see how it plays out.

Sounds like a good fit for Tavares... Tavares doesn't seem to fit into the off the rush type scoring the leafs Nylander, Marner and Matthew seem to do most

 

[clydesdale line]

Acciari is the underrated get for Toronto. I think he'll be damn good for them. We'll see with ROR.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Huge addition for Toronto. Must be nice to have a GM that's actually trying to address his team's needs instead of talking about how much he likes his roster even if the results aren't there.

 

[Leafs87]

I don’t get Minnesotas involvement here. They give up a prospect (who TBH I’m not very familiar with) plus retain 25% of RORs salary all for a 4th?

 

[binop7]

Sounds like a good fit for Tavares... Tavares doesn't seem to fit into the off the rush type scoring the leafs Nylander, Marner and Matthew seem to do most

I could see ROR meshing with Marner even. Both very cerebral players. But even if he plays 3rd line C it'll be an extremely valuable role.

 

[GQS]

Best advice, just watch.

I thought Foligno was going to be a huge get...........

Best advice for all Leafs fans, just f'n watch and,

Hope for the best, expect the worst, in that order.

I didn't like the Foligno trade when it happened and still think its Dubas' worst trade in his time as GM of the Leafs. I think this is a decent deal in that although they gave up alot for him ROR is a much better player and brings more to the Leafs than Foligno ever could. Well as long as he's healthy and is ready to go that is.

 

[93LEAFS]

I’m not going to act like I know Nylander playstyle. But ROR as shown this season doesn’t mesh well with up and down full offense players. He plays a controlled heavy forecheck game. He may honestly be best fit on the 3rd line for you guys opening up matchups for your top 6 or simply just feasting on the other teams bottom end guys due to them having to matchup that way.

It’s a nightmare for other teams. Was a great move by the Leafs imo interested to see how it plays out.

I think he likely fits well with Marner if we are using him on the LW, whether that center is Matthews or Tavares (or ROR at center and Tavares on the wing). Marner's not a forechecker, but is ridiculous on opening windows in a cycle game due to elusiveness, IQ, and vision/passing, and any high-IQ guy who is willing to go to the net, or get to the right place, Marner will generally find them for that opening. I think he brings great versatility to the line-up allowing us to provide multiple different looks in line-up construction.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

A steal for Toronto. Ryan o Reilly as your #3 centre, scary depth.

 

[leafsfan5]

Honestly a great part is the Leafs add an intense leader. Our leadership group isn't as intense (i mean our captain is John Tavares lol) and generally more laid back. Keefe himself has mentioned we get quiet sometimes on the bench

ROR hates to lose and makes it well known. He injects an element this team sorely needs

 

[Teemu]

Gaudette's gotta stop f***ing with those crystals, man. Fifth team since April 2021.

 

[Brookbank]

Excited to see how quickly Leafs fans turn on ROR after they realize he can't skate anymore.

3rd line C