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That's where guys like Robertson hopefully will be able to fill in
Confirmed with Link: TOR sign F Zach Aston-Reese to a PTO
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That's where guys like Robertson hopefully will be able to fill in
justashadowof
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The Leafs like every NHL team needs some assurances of experienced depth if roles aren't filled through internal promotions. That's what this potentially is. This elite defense blather is more salesman smoke and mirrors. If that stuff were meaningful he'd have been signed a couple months ago. And he'd probably still be in Pittsburgh.
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They were actually on a very successful line together in college. Mariles should pick up Sikura their other winger. He looks like a AAAA type of player.
Ianturnedbull
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Perhaps ZAR has turned down EDM's offer, but you have to wonder if his contract won't be so "team friendly". I think that Bunting is the only example of Dubas winning a negotiation.
Makes you wonder...
...also a little discouraged...
...ahh the life of being a Leafs fan.
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Players mulling over PTO destinations don’t have much leverage in a negotiation. He shouldn’t sign for much more than league minimum if he makes the team.
Ianturnedbull
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We'll see, but I think I disagree.
Not that I think he's going to get 4 million. I just feel like there is regular contracts/negotiations, and there's Dubas.
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I think there are a lot of teams that would sign ZAR at the minimum or just above. My bet is we move someone and he gets 2x1.5 - 1.8
But if we get him at 1m for 1 that would be great too.
If he fits our system, and he should, our 4th line is taking on an interesting dimension.
But if we get him at 1m for 1 that would be great too.
If he fits our system, and he should, our 4th line is taking on an interesting dimension.
Nylander88
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I don't see a way in which ZAR doesn't make this team. Likely means Simmer & Clifford are on the outside looking in. Our bottom 6 is going to have a completely different look and feel. Maybe still a trade to come though. Season starts today (assuming ZAR signs an NHL deal) you're likely looking at:
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Jarnkrok
ZAR-Gaudette-Aube-Kubel
Very defensively aware bottom 6.
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Jarnkrok
ZAR-Gaudette-Aube-Kubel
Very defensively aware bottom 6.
Griffin76
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And they could get some needed garbage goals and good forechecking, leading to some goals off the turnovers. They won't tear up the score sheet or anything of course.
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No idea. Maybe of the offers he received, the Leafs were his preferred choice. Only him and his agent could tell us this.
Friedman has reported that if/when he signs it will be for 850k.
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Its not your fault
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This soft player was top 20 in the league in hits per 60.
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I suppose that when you live near an airport long enough you no longer notice the noise or the planes passing over.
Dubas, the cap, and his player's contracts debate has been well exercised here.
Do you want to re-visit the debate once more? Don't you recall how we got to this point?
Nylander88
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Momentum shifts are huge though. Whether it's just smothering the other teams top players, or turning the tide with 30-40 seconds of heavy forechecking without sacrificing defence.
SeaOfBlue
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And it is the same poor, tired arguments that are constantly proven to be hyperbolized or wrong... And yet they continue to be brought up to push a terribly inaccurate narrative.
Dubas has managed the cap better than most GM's in the league. It took 3 serious groin injuries in a short period of time to a goalie who has had a mostly clean bill of health for him to have to pay to get out of one of his signings, and he has certainly not overpaid someone of ZAR's caliber at any point. Most GM's can't make those claims.
ZAR is getting slightly above league average if he signs here, which is no more than he'd get from any other team in the league. He would have signed already if he was getting a better deal than that, because he is not worth much as a defensive 4th liner who doesn't take draws.
But no, we don't need to re-visit the debate once more. It always goes and ends the same way, and this board has enough poor, lazy narratives as it is.
You have nothing. Your comeback will be the same tired passive aggressive comments that all the other dolts use. Nothing tangible. Hyperbole. Nothing else.
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A very similar player in NAK did sign a few months ago, and it wasn't like it was for a ton of money either. ZAR may have had offers like that on the table in July, but he decided he wasn't going to take that kind of offer until September, or they were from less attractive teams and he bet that he wasn't going to get anything worse if he waited. Seems like he is right, considering he could very well receive a contract similar to NAK's from a team that was probably at or near the top of his list of desirable teams.
That does not mean he won't be important or meaningful. He can play 13-14 minutes a night on our shutdown line with Kampf and NAK. Kampf's line was huge for us in stopping other teams' better offensive units last year, so even if he only does that and each guy can chip in 20-25 points, then we are doing well.
We can let other teams overpay for their depth players. That is not something the Leafs have done, and I doubt it will happen very often going forward either.
It's strange to see us sign so many bottom 6ers. Our upper echelon prospect pool, never seem to really get a chance to show how elite they are.
Zar is on a PTO,and theres also something called healthy competition. Every team does this....
Are we not confident all of our elite prospects can play bottom 6 minutes? We're not talking dime a dozen prospects here.
You're just finding reasons to crap on the leafs for.
Lol
I'll say it again.
Healthy competition.
