Confirmed with Link: [TOR/OTT] Matt Murray (25% retention), a 3rd in 2023 and a 7th in 2024 for Future Considerations.

[A1LeafNation]

Dubas' Mrazek to Murray bad goalie shuffle over the past 12 months is probably not going to work out for Toronto in the end. A lot of damage done in a short amount of time.

They were better off keeping g Mrazek

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

Really hoping this is a thread we can bump and look at 9 months from now and are all going to laugh at our bad takes. Not holding my breath.

If at first you don't succeed,

 

[ER89]

dubas needs to be f***ing fired. This is inexcusable. Dorion f***ed this guy up the ass with no lube and dubas paid him for dinner.

God damn kyle you moron.

 

[The Podium]

This just boggles the mind. Murray can win the Vezina next year and it still doesn't make this trade, today, on pure value, any better.

We know Ottawa dealt him to buffalo with the 7th for the 16th. The value jump in that is surely worth at least a late first. So how do you, as a GM, approach this deal, knowing that Ottawa is willing to give up about a 1st, and then settle for a 3rd.

Boggles the mind.

To be fair, the 2023 draft is much stronger than the 2022. But not walking out from this deal with 50% retention or even a 2nd is inexcusable

 

[NewEraGM]

So I just saw that Murray even at 25% retained is still about 1M more expensive than Mrazek??!?! Whhhhhhaaaaattt?

He was getting paid 6M wow

 

[Sypher04]

Jesus f***, would have rather just re-signed Campbell at 5x5.

This appears to me to be an indication that Campbell isn't signing for 5m. Or they really don't want anything to do with that term, which I'll say, I wouldn't entirely blame them.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Goaltending decisions can royally f*** over GMs. It killed JFJ when he went from Raycroft to Toskala. Nonis went down in part because he wasted assets on Bernier who was at best a marginal upgrade on Reimer while not addressing the defence. This is a hell of a gamble by Dubas.

JFJ slow-dug his own grave when he acquired Raycroft in the first place at the cost of one of the best goaltending prospects on the planet.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Has to be the worst Dubas trade I've ever seen

 

[NewEraGM]

How did no one in the leafs organization say “wait a second Kyle….”….

 

[Kazparov]

Unless this is part of some combo deal to flip Murray somewhere else I kinda think this deal sucks.

 

[TheKule]

I'm at a loss. First Dubas trade that I simply do not get.

 

[BertCorbeau]

$4.6 mill in cap space is a huge hit and will impact the team's ability to sign some decent depth options out there.

You done played yourself Dubas.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I expected......better.

 

[Americanadian]

I like how Ottawa has two 2023 7th round picks and Dorion still cucked Dubas into it being a 2024 7th.

I don't think it's possible for him to look like a genius here. Even if Murray plays well for the Leafs, Dubas should have got more in this trade.

 

[daethfromabove1979]

What a steal for Ottawa, good for Dorion.

4.7M for Matt Murray is outrageous, why not just pay Jack Campbell who is actually decent? Looking forward to Dubas getting fired hopefully soon.

 

[Apex Predator]

I’m trying not to over react but this is such a bad trade and waste of cap space. How does no one tell Dubas that only getting a 3rd and 7th for this isn’t worth it.

 

[saltming]

Not with Nylander and Matthews coming off the books at the same time......that cap space is needed, every penny.

I did not think of that

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I'd rather have seen the Leafs:

A) Kept Mrazek for a million less;

OR

B) Overpaid Campbell (4 years, $5.5 per) than made this deal.

How the heck is Dubas resting the team's fortunes on this guy.

 

[Trapper]

Dubas' Mrazek to Murray bad goalie shuffle over the past 12 months is probably not going to work out for Toronto in the end. A lot of damage done in a short amount of time.

We will have to see how it plays out.
I hope it works but if not, I hope this is the end.

 

[William Hylander]

Hes actually going to make Murray the #1? If not why is our backup making 5 mill.

Should have been fired after the mtl loss

 

[Knies iT]

This is a near fireable offense.

This GM almost never wins trades outright and had complete leverage over Ottawa. Not only is Murray unanimously agreed to be a horrible trade target (before the inevitable rationalizing happens), but it is a grossly underwhelming return with only slight retention.

Pitiful.

 

[Stephen]

This appears to me to be an indication that Campbell isn't signing for 5m. Or they really don't want anything to do with that term, which I'll say, I wouldn't entirely blame them.

Seems like going the extra $400K with your own guy would have been the normal play here regardless of term. Dubas has just gone off the deep end.

 

[michi510]

cant believe we just waste our 1st round pick and cap space… for this…

 

[The Masters]

Dubas just doubles down on what he thinks his right no matter what. This move may end his leafs career. You gotta have some balls to take this risk. But even if he got 50% from Sens and Murray sucked, Dubas would get the same treatment as a total loser. So he made the deal anyway.

Only time will tell. They need a real back up now though, this cant be it with Woll/kal

 

[TimeZone]

I'd love to see somebody attempt to defend this absolute dumpster fire of a deal