Confirmed with Link: [TOR/OTT] Matt Murray (25% retention), a 3rd in 2023 and a 7th in 2024 for Future Considerations.

[NewEraGM]

Wow lol. Absolutely horrendous. So basically same deal as Mrazek left over?

 

[TheScandal89]

Thats so bad

 

[Steven1562]

I would have at least liked to have seen some NHL players come our way for taking on Murray at 25% but i guess Dubas forgot he needs some depth to win cups.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Not only does this almost kill any cup chance this year, but probably see Matthews walk as well. I hate this management group almost as much as Harold Ballard.

 

[BertCorbeau]

All the hype for that is just bad.

 

[Cleetus]

Dubas should be fired wtf is this seriously.... just a fleecing 3 and a 7th with 25 percent retention this cant be real, horrible

 

[Stephen]

Nobody agrees on anything on these boards but everyone agrees this is a shit deal.

Dubas' Mrazek to Murray bad goalie shuffle over the past 12 months is probably not going to work out for Toronto in the end. A lot of damage done in a short amount of time.

 

[saltming]

I think the narrative was to have Woll/Kallgren fight for the backup. We just acquired 5 mil in cap, probably not. Not if you want other guys who can put on skates with the rest of the money.

I think you're right. I do have faith in Woll but his injury history is not good either.

My dark horse is Mackay. Hopefully he adjust quickly, earns and elc and jumps up relatively quickly

 

[Gallagbi]

I figured itd be around 25% retention, but wanted better picks/sweetener. Clearly Dubas likes Murray more than most. Willing to bet his job on it.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Really hoping this is a thread we can bump and look at 9 months from now and are all going to laugh at our bad takes. Not holding my breath.

 

[123offtheglass]

At least goaltending voodoo is real, right... very good chance this deal blows up in their face though

 

[TheGreenTBer]

On the flip side, Dorion has gone full out gangster lately with his trades

Maybe Melnyk really was pulling even more strings than we thought?

 

[Mickey Marner]

just a massive power move, dubas likes being submissive

No vaseline either.

 

[kb]

We can also buyout his last year if needed

Not with Nylander and Matthews coming off the books at the same time......that cap space is needed, every penny.

 

[Apex Predator]

I hope even the most ardent supporters are realizing that yes, even Dubas's shit stinks.

Doubt it they’re about to come up with why he’s smart and this is great.

 

[Fogelhund]

Bad trade is bad.

 

[stickty111]

Dubas had Dorion on the ropes yet somehow Dubas is the one who gets hosed.

 

[Gabriel426]

I know it won't be 50% retention, and it was pretty much wishful thinking on our part. But a 3rd and a 7th as a sweetener, thats not enough.

 

[On-the-Fly]

Something something market ineffiency?

This is a tough one.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Lol. If Dorion can now get Giroux because of this newfound cap-space I'm going to lose it.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Nearly 5M on Matt Murray

lmao lmao lmao

Watch Campbell get 5.5x4….

Did we not just trade the same goalie, albeit with less pedigree and less wear/tear, and give up 13 spots to do so? So now we get the same type of G and use up more cap for the luxury for the wonder of a 3rd that Kyle is salivating at prospect of turning into a 5th and 7th next draft

 

[DueDiligence]

I like Murray besides the health issues but that seems not good.

Murray can have a streak of very good games and look like a bonafide #1. But then he will have a few absolute stinkers as well. And guaranteed he will get injured a few times and miss 20-25 games as well.

 

[ShameOnYouZidlicky]

Interested to see what Dubas apologists say about this.

 

[Stephen]

Wow lol. Absolutely horrendous. So basically same deal as Mrazek left over?

Close. Just 10% more expensive and the same length.

 

[smitty10]

I don't know how he'll turn out, but how is this the deal? Why not just let Ottawa buy him out and sign him at like 2.5m/year? This is probably the first Dubas trade since Kadri that I haven't liked from the beginning.