TheNumber4
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Oh yeh cause Marner and Matthews built this city and this 100 year old franchise and fanbase with their bare hands. They definitely "deserve" some of that cake.
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Oh yeh cause Marner and Matthews built this city and this 100 year old franchise and fanbase with their bare hands. They definitely "deserve" some of that cake.
Umm...and whoever of Harpur, Schmaltz and Marincin are not already on the roster (at most only one would be on the roster once Dermott is back - and before Dermott and Hyman is back this shortened roster issue doesn't exist), plus Duszak.
So....a mere 7 D to choose from....5 with NHL experience.
They could probably also work in the other ones by just pulling off something like this: Let's say that the Leafs have Dermott and Schmaltz on the third pairing. Dermott gets injured and they want to bring Liljegren (who in this scenario has been paired with Marincin on the Marlies) up they could first send down Schmaltz and bring up Liljegren and then apply for the emergency recall and bring up Marincin.
Leaf Fans
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Like every GM, their assistants help. This isn't new. Let's take Edmonton for example Bill Scott, an excellent cap guy in his own right, helps Holland with salary cap issues.
TheNumber4
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If having the guy who created the cap leads to gross overpayments to players, then sure, congrats on having Mr Cap Creator. Now maybe Toronto can hire the inventor of the Instant Replay and all reviewed calls can go against them.
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So you really think a 60/69/94 point player would be the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE (not even at MAX TERM, 4 of the 6 years RFA YEARS)? You REALLY think that?
He is the engine of the Toronto Maple Leafs. I do believe he deserves that money. He’s a special talent.
thewave
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They are terrible contracts, a good portion of us know it. They haven't ruined anything so long as the rest of the League holds the line and follows around the Aho deal. If they do that they can screw the Leafs good and proper. That and get the fair deal they need to win under the cap system. CBA will be a SOB though.
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Highest paid winger in the freaking league? Highest paid winger EVER in nhl history? Top 5 highest paid wingers EVER using cap percentage?
We're talking about a guy who is well UNDER a ppg over his career.
What a f***ing joke.
There's a difference between being "very good" and "HIGHEST PAID EVER good".
Of course you do, and it’s a professional organization so that’s why I said I’m sure it’s not as bad as a lot of posters are making it out to be. But imo this contract wasn’t even plan b or c, and doubtfully even a thought last off season. So as much as they have some sort of plan I really doubt it’s nearly as good as a few leaf faithful are making it out to be.
Things have changed. Clearly.
The money is a lot different than it used to be and so are the RFAs negotiation tactics.
Edit furthermore the Matthews and Tavares deals played a huge part. This one falls in line. I don’t disagree it’s a ton of money. Dubas f***ed himself though the minute Auston signed that deal.
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I love all the Canadian Franchises and want to see them make the Playoffs in the near future.
That being said, I am perplexed by the number of negative posts which greet each rationale comment made by a post by even the most diplomatic TML supporting member. Let's just enjoy the renaissance of scoring & entertainment in the NHL. We all deserve it as hockey fans IMHO.
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Yes, was agreeing with you. However, the optimistic side has a far more solid foundation than the doomsayers.
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We dont have Marleau or Zaitsev anymore, so we dodged a bullet there. Dubas and Pridham are on the same page for current and future contracts
TheGroceryStick
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I'm happy to have all our guys in camp and ready to go (save from a few injuries) no distractions , get goin boys
okay so 15 months ago it was "Leafs will never get Tavares" then it became "Leafs cant afford all 3 of their young core", then "They have to trade Kapanen or Johnsson" and now what is it? Something about how the leafs are screwed if 2 defensemen get hurt at the same or how 3 years from now they are screwed? cool. carry on.
I’m not sure which side has a more solid foundation. There are a lot of concerns about that the team will be able to do the rest of this year and next offseason. I’ve seen the posts about how they can re sign Barrie and how Dermot takes Muzzin’s spot, the 2 prospects make up part of the 2nd or the whole 3rd pair, and some mysterious hometown discount D fills out the other 2nd pair spot, and sure for the most part the math works (at least fairly close). But looking closer at that, if Dermott plays well enough that replacing Muzzin isn’t of a concern then he’s probably getting paid more than most of the estimates (3.5 plus) then having 2 rookies or at the very least inexperienced nhlers running the 3rd pairing is very risky, they are good prospects and I’m not knocking them but having no experienced player with them could be catastrophic some games, even if it is only for 12 minutes a night. Then there’s the money issue of this hometown D. Especially if Dermott does require a little more than expected, this player won’t have much more experience than the prospects or he’ll be much older and much worse. That pair should be expected to play 20 ish minutes at least, or either the youngsters are playing more than 12 or Rielly Barrie are playing 30 min. And this is all just to be in the same cap situation that they’ll be in later this year when Dermott and Hyman come back
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Both are up for UFA next year. We will have to see how the Leafs position themselves going into next July. Likely they can sign one, but who knows if that is in the cards- we have to see how they play this year. With Dermott and Hyman, again we have to wait to see if the Leafs apply for the LTIR as of now as a far as I know, the Leafs are using the off season cushion and not Long term Injury Relief for Dermot and Hyman.
CatchyTune
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He isnt the highest paid winger ever. He isnt even the highest paid winger currently. Title belongs to Artemi Panarin.
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Sure. Forgot about Panarin. That's true.
A player on a LONGER term, ALL ufa years.
What a complete f***ing joke.
Leaf Fans
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It is a year longer than Marner. Yes, he will be 34 when it is finished. It is not a joke. He negotiated the contract fairly. It is irrelevant if you don't like it. If he and the Rangers are Happy with the number and term, what's it to you?
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Oh, so BIG money until a player is 34 is "bad"?
Ok.
Dubas f***ed up with Tavares then.
No matter how much spin you'll use, facts will expose you.
Do you REALLY think Matthews and Marner will take (lol) "discounts" when they're ufa's? They're CLEARLY all about the money.
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thewave
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I'm on the same page as you. This other guy sounds like he is doing PR rounds for MLSE.
Leaf Fans
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Who said it was bad? You? I said"...If he and the Rangers are Happy with the number and term, what's it to you?"
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