Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Leafs extend Morgan Rielly (8 years, $7.5M AAV)

[The Podium]

Unless Campbell completely shits the bed the rest of the season you're dreaming thinking he's going to sign for that little.

lol so campbell will make less than the backup

2-2.5 mill raise

 

[nbwingsfan]

The star players not showing up when it matters doesnt mean the team is poorly constructed. Where do you reallocate money if you downgrade from the top heavy construction? The depth has been good, the D has been good, the stars just went quite 3 years in a row at the worst possible time.

As for Campbell a 2 mill raise is 3.5-4 mill contract

Sandin isnt going to command a huge raise after 1 season playing limited 3rd pairing minutes. Hes still under RFA controll for 6 more years...

Again, why is Campbell only getting $3.5M if he’s good enough to be a starter? What Cup Calibre starters are getting that much?

 

[milehigh11]

Hahahahahahahahaha. He’s 27. Takes him to 35.

he will be 28 when the new contract starts so it will run through age 36. Full no trade only last 2 years its a 10 team list i think

 

[Torontonian]

Very happy with this deal, Moe could have taken the Leafs to the cleaners with some of the contracts that were signed recently. Only a 2.5m raise on the cap hit and we are getting 1.2m from the Kessel retention back this summer and then the cap being raised by a mill already pays for the raise.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I am not a fan of the Leafs but this seems like a pretty fair contract to me. He would've made more on the market and he definitely gave up $ per for term.

 

[Blacephalon]

Nah. You don't know what you're talking about. We overpaid a bit for some young Superstars, and we're one of the better teams in the NHL.

Overpayed a bit? Good one lol

 

[benedictTavares]

you have to really hate the leafs to complain about this deal

 

[Holymakinaw]

So you did not want Hyman?
Weird, I really like his game.

Not at his price, no.

 

[Holymakinaw]

It’s not about who knows best. This is simple mathematics. 58.9% of an NHL cap to 5 players, who unlike Tampa’s core, which may see a similar cap issue next season, don’t produce when the games mean something is an awful cap approach.

You ignoring the cheesy depth/goaltending options that is given to this core because of cap restraints, and typing as may caps-locked LMAOs or LOLs only further proves that you’re seeing this only through an emotional bond to the team that clouds logical thought.

This core is 0-8 in playoffs.

This core were a bunch of 22/23/24 year olds the last time they were in the playoffs. KIDS.

It sometimes takes more than 12 seconds for kids to figure things out. Shocking, I know.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Called 7.5m in offseason. Is the deal at least 1 year longer than you wanted? Of course but that is cost of signing free agent years out. Leafs made right signing.

 

[koyvoo]

This core were a bunch of 22/23/24 year olds the last time they were in the playoffs. KIDS.

It sometimes takes more than 12 seconds for kids to figure things out. Shocking, I know.

So then you do like Tampa, pay them moderately until they prove they can be successful, then reward them handsomely. I just think that makes a lot more sense.

 

[The Podium]

Again, why is Campbell only getting $3.5M if he’s good enough to be a starter? What Cup Calibre starters are getting that much?

1.5 seasons of a starter workload isn’t enough to warrant some huge raise unless he’s winning the Vezina or Conn Smythe. Likely he’s getting the Mrazek deal or slightly more.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Overpayed a bit? Good one lol

Yup. A bit. Marner is overpaid by about 1.5M but has paced for 96 points/season for the last three years. Matthews is probably overpaid by 1M as well.......goal scoring machine and one of the NHL's best Centres.

Big deal.

Josh Anderson is overpaid by 2.5M. Lucic by 3M. Nurse is overpaid by 2M easily. Trouba by 2-3M as well. Zaitsevv is overpaid by 1-2M. Seth Jones by 2M.

LOTS of guys are overpaid "a bit". At least ours are two of the league's best.

 

[nbwingsfan]

you have to really hate the leafs to complain about this deal

I don’t really see anyone saying it’s a bad contract but commenting on them having 59% of their cap Locked up into 5 players who are soft and have failed them over and over

 

[Holymakinaw]

So then you do like Tampa, pay them moderately until they prove they can be successful, then reward them handsomely. I just think that makes a lot more sense.

Toronto is not Tampa. Have you noticed? We have different players, in a different market, with different personal situations, and different taxes, and different media pressure, and different fanbases.

The two can't be compared.

 

[nbwingsfan]

1.5 seasons of a starter workload isn’t enough to warrant some huge raise unless he’s winning the Vezina or Conn Smythe. Likely he’s getting the Mrazek deal or slightly more.

Ullmark just got 5 for arguably less workload. I’ll ask again, what starting goalie on a cup contender is paid $3.5 after already being a starter?

 

[Aashir Mallik]

I'm not saying he's washed up. I'm saying he will be washed up and getting paid $7.5m in about 6 years.

Well that’s how it works no?
Look at Hyman, he’s gonna be worth that contract for 5 years, dead weight for 3. Usually for mid to late 20’s guys, teams sign them to 7-8 years knowing that it’s actually a 5 year deal and 2-3 years of an overpayment to cap dump

 

[The Podium]

Ullmark just got 5 for arguably less workload. I’ll ask again, what starting goalie on a cup contender is paid $3.5 after already being a starter?

And that deal looks terrible.

Freddy Andersen just signed 4.5 mill on a contender with a long long history of being a starter.

 

[koyvoo]

Toronto is not Tampa. Have you noticed? We have different players, in a different market, with different personal situations, and different taxes, and different media pressure, and different fanbases.

Thevtwi can’t be compared.

Yes, I have noticed. I don’t know how anybody wouldn’t notice.

 

[Voight]

I'd think most fan bases would be pretty peeved at signing him at 9.5 million.

I mean, Nurse is a punchline at that amount right now.

I don't disagree, but 9+ seems to be the going rate these days. Which is insane but then again Doughty/Karlsson reset the market when they got their mega deals.

 

[NyQuil]

I don't disagree, but 9+ seems to be the going rate these days. Which is insane but then again Doughty/Karlsson reset the market when they got their mega deals.

The Nurse deal may end up as more of an outlier as more deals get signed - I'm curious to see in a year or two.

 

[AvroArrow]

Again, why is Campbell only getting $3.5M if he’s good enough to be a starter? What Cup Calibre starters are getting that much?

He prob gets around the 4M range to be fair. He's a legit starter but far from elite. He's not a top 10 goalie, somewhere in the 15-20 range.

 

[Chardo]

This makes the nurse deal look real bad

The Nurse deal already looked real bad.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Yes, I have noticed. I don’t know how anybody wouldn’t notice.

Have you also noticed that NONE of the Canadian teams......who are all built differently........have won any cups in 28 years?

What's the "formula" for Ottawa? Montreal? Calgary? You internet experts seem to have one for Toronto.

Maybe, it's slightly more difficult up north of the border, to compete with state-tax-free zone Tampa? Or no-real-pressure LA/Washington/St. Louis? Or stacked-with one of the greatest players ever-Sidney Crosby in Pittsburgh?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Rielly should have asked for the dubas special. He really is the only team player on the roster.