Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[Sparksrus3]

Only 4 years? Matthews is a sack. No other superstar pulls this shit.

its all signing bonus .no salary

he now makes more than all the Arizona Coyotes combined

 

[DaveMatthew]

Marner is a stud and Tavares is a ppg guy at his worst. They got 4 forwards who finished in the top 30 for points last year. This isnt an honest debate imo.

Choice:

Option A: Pay Matthews

or

Option B: Dont pay matthews? Let him walk? Trade away your generational face-of-franchise player at age 25?

Id be super happy my team gets a prime Matthews for the next 5 years.

Option B would depend on what the package coming back could have been.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Now they can trade him

He has a full NTC

 

[Rude Dog]

Nah. McDavid wants to win. Everyone knows the Leaf’s can’t win.

4 rounds in 8 years with the best player on the planet.
4 rounds in 17 years for the Oilers.

Yep, the Oilers are the poster child for success (with how many 1st over-all picks)?

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

4 rounds in 8 years with the best player on the planet.
4 rounds in 17 years for the Oilers.

Yep, the Oilers are the poster child for success (with how many 1st over-all picks)?

Compared to the Toronto Maple Leafs, absolutely.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

You don't understand why the rumors 15M x 8 isn't preferred over 13.25x4 given the cap isn't rising by any meaningful amount the next few years to make that palatable, while the Leafs have their biggest cap crunch next season?

No I understand. Which is why I said years ago that the Tavares signing would be a problem but you assured me it wouldn’t.

 

[HockeyVirus]

No I understand. Which is why I said years ago that the Tavares signing would be a problem but you assured me it wouldn’t.

I mean, flat cap and shit kind of happened so if you did it was by complete fluke.

Besides, Tavares has 2 seasons left. See my comment above, cap problems with the core are a non issue outside of that 1 season

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I mean, flat cap and shit kind of happened so if you did it was by complete fluke.

Besides, Tavares has 2 seasons left. See my comment above, cap problems with the core are a non issue outside of that 1 season

No. I knew and many others stated that the Tavares contract would come back to bite them. If the cap would have risen then Matttews demands would have just increased. The flat cap is a red herring.

 

[Uncle]

I mean, flat cap and shit kind of happened so if you did it was by complete fluke.

Besides, Tavares has 2 seasons left. See my comment above, cap problems with the core are a non issue outside of that 1 season

A lot of TML issues rn is unfortunately do to unforseen circumstances, draw it up like it *should have* gone (no covid etc) and things are different.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

You also said Leaf fans were delusional that he would sign here. Any cap issues are well worth seeing you folks speechless in that thread. A top 3 memory for me in my near 15 years on HF

No I never said that.
I didn’t expect you to admit your mistake though. Lol.

 

[shortfuze]

He isnt as good as Mcdavid or Makinnon yet is making way more money than both of them without anywhere close to similar levels of playoff success. If you think this is a good deal for your team and their 1 playoff win in his tenure with the team then have at it. It’s too bad he doesnt think at all like Crosby. If everyone just takes a little bit less then you have a chance to win. He is taking a little bit more, he is overpaid relative to all comparables. Gonna be really hard to win anything with him making this much and whatever Marner and Nylander end up getting here.

crosby signed a 12 year deal 10 years ago. Which would be over 12 million Today. Now factor in that those contracts aren’t allowed anymore, how much do you think he would sign for today? On an 8 year deal.

 

[HockeyVirus]

A lot of TML issues rn is unfortunately do to unforseen circumstances, draw it up like it *should have* gone (no covid etc) and things are different.

Yup. Leafs sign 40+ million in contracts the season before the league shuts down. Shit happens. But had the cap kept going up, they could have kept guys like Hyman and have more assets as they wouldn't have needed to pay so much for extra cap like with Marleau's deal and for retention

 

[AcerComputer]

Nah. McDavid wants to win. Everyone knows the Leaf’s can’t win.

Just like in EDM?

 

[HockeyVirus]

Shouldn't you be worrying about McDavid re-signing instead of the how overpaid the Leafs stars are (who signed with the team)?

 

[gritdash60]

its all signing bonus .no salary

he now makes more than all the Arizona Coyotes combined

Imagine if after this contract Matthews signs to Coyotes and builds an arena named after himself to play in!

 

[Strangle]

He has to play 82 games though, which he's done once. Until then, he averages 43 goals a season.

Kind of difficult to do that when there are no games to play though.

You’re playing a really stupid game here.

Matthews - scores 41 goals in a 52 game season

Grim Reaper on HFboards - “Only 41 goals? What a scrub. Should have scored more than that. 41 goals brings his average to 43 per season. He needs to play more games”

What an embarrassment of a take lol

 

[Beau Knows]

Shouldn't you be worrying about McDavid re-signing instead of the how overpaid the Leafs stars are (who signed with the team)?

Man, you're really concerned about that totally normal quote.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Marner is a stud and Tavares is a ppg guy at his worst. They got 4 forwards who finished in the top 30 for points last year. This isnt an honest debate imo.

Choice:

Option A: Pay Matthews

or

Option B: Dont pay matthews? Let him walk? Trade away your generational face-of-franchise player at age 25?

Id be super happy my team gets a prime Matthews for the next 5 years.

Calling Tavares a PPG guy at worst is tough considering this past season was his first reaching PPG levels in 4 years.

Also doesn't quite mean much when there are about 40 PPG players... Or when you consider that half of his points came on the PP, and 5 on 5 he's tied for 86th in the league.

Doesn't quite get you close to be deserving of Top 10 highest paid players in the league.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Shouldn't you be worrying about McDavid re-signing instead of the how overpaid the Leafs stars are (who signed with the team)?

Who are you even talking to?

No, I’m not worried, already signed McDavid long term once (when Leafs fans like yourself said he wouldn’t sign, or play for Edmonton). And unlike your inferior player, he’ll be signed long term.

You’re acting like some gotcha thing when it’s not relevant to the topic of Auston Matthews shitty contract lol. Just classic deflection.

And of course you make a shitty thread that was quickly shut down.

Massive L.

 

[Strangle]

Matthews is 7 years into his career and you still need to use pace to justify his production. At what point do you just have to admit production is production and the goals you don’t score because you are constantly injured don’t count.

41 goals in a 52 game shortened season is why traditional stat keeping is skewed.

to be able to properly put across how amazing of a goal scoring season that was, you don’t just get to say ‘he had a 41 goal season’. Because that’s misleading, he had 41 goals in a 52 game season.

His missed games aren’t mostly due to injury, they are league shut down games that he missed the most of.

Don’t be disingenuous

This is quite the narrative considering there were multiple reports that the Leafs wanted him to sign for longer...

MacKinnon has 100 points in 77 playoff games and a Stanley Cup. Matthews has 44 points in 50 playoff games and has won one single series.

Also, this entire thing is kind of misleading because we don't know what Matthews will be doing from 31 to 35. He could go UFA to a new team. He could sign a max term deal with the Leafs. Or he could sign a short term deal with the Leafs. If he signs a short term deal with the Leafs, you're probably looking at $15M+...

Hey @Golden_Jet check this out. Another poster saying Matthews next deal at $15m+.

Do you get it yet?

 

[Leafshater67]

This team is so unlikable. They very clearly prioritize making the most money possible and themselves over the team.

They will never win. Being a leafs fan is so hard

 

[Strangle]

I think we disagree here. I don't think Toews gets 10.5M 4 years into the deal. I also don't think Tavares gets 11M 4 years into his deal. If the Leafs had the option of giving Tavares 11M X 4 or 11 X 7, I think the majority of them would sign up for the 4 years.

They think if Tavares only signed for 4 years when he came to Toronto that he’d be getting paid $15m on this deal by now.

Because they are trolls

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Hey @Golden_Jet check this out. Another poster saying Matthews next deal at $15m+.

Do you get it yet?

I suppose he could get less if he absolutely falls off a cliff in the next 5 years. Or if he does indeed sign a full 8 year deal next time.

 

[dubey]

Shouldn't you be worrying about McDavid re-signing instead of the how overpaid the Leafs stars are (who signed with the team)?

Matthews has enough money to buy the Coyotes and McDavid is going to leave Edmonton

Business is about to pick up

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

crosby signed a 12 year deal 10 years ago. Which would be over 12 million Today. Now factor in that those contracts aren’t allowed anymore, how much do you think he would sign for today? On an 8 year deal.

Considering Crosby's obsession with the number 87, why would you assume it would change much? There's a reason both of his post ELC contracts average out to $8.7 million per year or did you think that was just a weird coincidence?

At most, Crosby would have opted for an $87 million contract over 8 years, for an AAV of 10.875 million per year so he could maintain some weird tie to the number 87.