Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[Tad Mikowsky]

sure,

2016/17 - 4 goals in 6 games
2017/18 - 1 goal in 7 games
2018/19 - 5 goals in 7 games
2019/20 - 2 goals in 5 games
2020/21 - 1 goal in 7 games
2021/22 - 4 goals in 7 games
2022/23 - 5 goals in 11 games

Overall 22 goals in 50 games, definitely not the best, had some rough series' but definitely not the worst.

McDavid has 29 in 49, so slightly better.

Now do assists. For a guy who’s a “generational goal scorer” those are pretty pathetic numbers.

 

[snowkiddin]

There is no debate. McDavid has always, and will continue, to be the best player no matter what delusional people say.

Objection. The best player in 1905 was Frank McGee. 28 goals in 7 games - pacing for 328
goals a season. While being better than average defensively. Generational.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

sure,

2016/17 - 4 goals in 6 games
2017/18 - 1 goal in 7 games
2018/19 - 5 goals in 7 games
2019/20 - 2 goals in 5 games
2020/21 - 1 goal in 7 games
2021/22 - 4 goals in 7 games
2022/23 - 5 goals in 11 games

Overall 22 goals in 50 games, definitely not the best, had some rough series' but definitely not the worst.

McDavid has 29 in 49, so slightly better.

Slightly better?
Is that what they call over 30% more goals. Lol.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Once. Probably 3 times if neither 2019-2020 or 2020-2021 aren't shortened by COVID. Penalizing him for COVID is cognitively unjustifiable.

Neither is favorably assuming he would hit those totals because of wishful thinking.

 

[Hynh]

2021-2023 Matthews>2016-2017 McDavid. McDavid's contract looks good because he's improved a lot since the time of his signing, It was not by any means a good contract the day it was signed.

It must take a bold GM to figure that a guy that wins the scoring race by 11 in his 19 year old season along with the Hart and Lindsay and was drafted 1st overall with the most hype in a decade would improve over the next 9 years. Legitimately mindblowing logic to guess that the 3rd youngest Art Ross winner in history would get better during his 20s.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

sure,

2016/17 - 4 goals in 6 games
2017/18 - 1 goal in 7 games
2018/19 - 5 goals in 7 games
2019/20 - 2 goals in 5 games
2020/21 - 1 goal in 7 games
2021/22 - 4 goals in 7 games
2022/23 - 5 goals in 11 games

Overall 22 goals in 50 games, definitely not the best, had some rough series' but definitely not the worst.

McDavid has 29 in 49, so slightly better.

Playoffs

Matthews: 0.44 goals per game
McDavid: 0.59 goals per game

That’s more than “slightly better”, mate.

 

[francis246]

Now do assists. For a guy who’s a “generational goal scorer” those are pretty pathetic numbers.

I love McDavid, probably my favourite player to watch outside of Marner but even his video game numbers haven't been enough to help Edmonton to win a cup, so what's your point? Both are exceptional players, both haven't really had a huge amount of success in the playoffs. McDavid is a better player than Matthews. Matthews is a better overall goal scorer.

 

[Maplebeasts]

You didn’t include the 2015 part. You used only 2016-17, while you use parts of three years for Matthews.

And you don’t see anything wrong with that lol.

Again: 2016-17, McDavid made it to the playoffs, won a round, won a hart, led the league in scoring. Stuff that Matthews never sniffed in his second year.

I used ALL of 3 years for Matthews. Not parts. McDavid signed his contract in July of 2017. Why would I consider anything he has done after that to judge his contract as it was ON THE DAY of it's signing? When this contract extension kicks in Matthews while being a UFA and an arguably better player than 2016-2017 McDavid will be making 750,000 more. The only bad thing about this contract is the term but if Matthews' play or health should deteriorate the term won't even be an issue.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

I love McDavid, probably my favourite player to watch outside of Marner but even his video game numbers haven't been enough to help Edmonton to win a cup, so what's your point? Both are exceptional players, both haven't really had a huge amount of success in the playoffs. McDavid is a better player than Matthews. Matthews is a better overall goal scorer.

Just not in playoffs where it counts. He seems to lag.

Production wise, McDavid blows Matthews out of the water. It’s not even comparable.

Maybe Auston Matthews isn’t a generational goal scorer like you and other Leaf fans seem to think.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It must take a bold GM to figure that a guy that wins the scoring race by 11 in his 19 year old season along with the Hart and Lindsay and was drafted 1st overall with the most hype in a decade would improve over the next 9 years. Legitimately mindblowing logic to guess that the 3rd youngest Art Ross winner in history would get better during his 20s.

I’m proud to say that I called all of Gretzky, Lemieux and McDavid being great even before they played a game. I put it on my resume and sent it to all of the NHL teams but so far no takers.
But I just spotted this Bedard kid that no one’s heard of so this could be my chance.

 

[francis246]

Slightly better?
Is that what they call over 30% more goals. Lol.

30% more goals what's that? He's scored 7 more goals than him in the playoffs in one less game and had two deeper runs. And guess what, both are still ringless!

 

[VivaLasVegas]

At least they don't have a backup goalie making 5 million or a #2D making 10...

But they have actual Cup-winning experience.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

30% more goals what's that? He's scored 7 more goals than him in the playoffs in one less game and had two deeper runs. And guess what, both are still ringless!

7 more goals is 30% more goals than Matthews in one less game.
Glad to help you.

 

[francis246]

Just not in playoffs where it counts. He seems to lag.

Production wise, McDavid blows Matthews out of the water. It’s not even comparable.

Maybe Auston Matthews isn’t a generational goal scorer like you and other Leaf fans seem to think.

if Matthews isn't a generational goal scorer than McDavid def isn't a generational player, because how come he can't get the Oilers over the hump with his insane production

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

I used ALL of 3 years for Matthews. Not parts. McDavid signed his contract in July of 2017. Why would I consider anything he has done after that to judge his contract as it was ON THE DAY of it's signing? When this contract extension kicks in Matthews while being a UFA and an arguably better player than 2016-2017 McDavid will be making 750,000 more. The only bad thing about this contract is the term but if Matthews' play or health should deteriorate the term won't even be an issue.

Delusional at best.

You’re using a larger sample size than McDavid. 3 years over 2.

You’re also using different time frames.

You’re also ignoring the resume McDavid already had when he signed his extension. You completely ignored his playoff success he had too, which is even more laughable compared to the “generational” goal scorer.

It’s not “arguable”. Matthews is and has always been the inferior player. No matter how many Maple Leaf themed gymnastics you keep telling yourself.

 

[Breakers]

This guys agent is a FRANKING legend

He’s gonna make over $200 million

Sets himself up at 31 years old for the 8 year banger

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

if Matthews isn't a generational goal scorer than McDavid def isn't a generational player, because how come he can't get the Oilers over the hump with his insane production

Because I’m looking at individual accomplishments and production, not team ones.

Try to keep up here.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

This past season

Matthews in his prime: 0.54 goals per game
Old man Ovechkin: 0.58 goals per game

That’s what generational looks like.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

I’m proud to say that I called all of Gretzky, Lemieux and McDavid being great even before they played a game. I put it on my resume and sent it to all of the NHL teams but so far no takers.
But I just spotted this Bedard kid that no one’s heard of so this could be my chance.

What did you think of Lindros before he was drafted?

I love the 4 year deal which is 5 more years of Matthews.

He's not the problem with the cap. It's Marner IMO. And If Nylander is looking for $10m, that's also a f***ing problem.

Matthews was a no brainer.

He may have f'd up taking a half term deal here, but is also going to collect $100M in his very early 30's.

But he has also had wrist and back issues. So from that standpoint, I'm really happy he's signed and it's not forever. Just enough time to realize it's going to be another 50+ years before my team wins a cup, and I'll be dead so who cares.

Matthews is a fun as shit player to watch. It's not my money, and I didn't screw up the cap. So I'll just enjoy this guy getting inked and not dragging this into the next season.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Delusional at best.

You’re using a larger sample size than McDavid. 3 years over 2.

You’re also using different time frames.

You’re also ignoring the resume McDavid already had when he signed his extension. You completely ignored his playoff success he had too, which is even more laughable compared to the “generational” goal scorer.

It’s not “arguable”. Matthews is and has always been the inferior player. No matter how many Maple Leaf themed gymnastics you keep telling yourself.

Holy moly your reading comprehension is about as good as WestCoastOrca's. I am not arguing Matthews is better. I have not. have never and will never assert that. That is not what this discussion is about. He had one and a half seasons played and a Ross/Hart. Matthews was a pending UFA with a Hart/Ted Lindsey/2 Rockets and back to back Hart/Ted Lindsey Runner up or better seasons. McDavid also did not have playoff success when he signed his contract in 2017. He put up 9 points in 13 games in his only playoff appearance at the time.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

*1 out of 7 seasons.

*^3 of those were Covid seasons , but sure lets ignore that tidbit .

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

Love these short term deals, 8 years is to much! It suck’s for the league!

 

[admiralcadillac]

Is he overpaid? Probably. But now he has to show he’s the best. Do it.

 

[Rude Dog]

The Leafs overpay to keep a perennial playoff choker. It's magic for the rest of the Division.

Well it pretty much cements the Leafs being in the playoffs for the next few years. Means it won’t be so magical for one of the teams in the east.

 

[Intermission]

That term sucks for Toronto (unless he falls off a cliff offensively)

The deal sucks if he's not phenomenal offensively.