Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[htpwn]

Matthews has won two Rocket Richards in the last three years and the Hart in 2021-2022.

It is incredible that people are still debating whether he is among the very elite in the NHL, but that's HF for ya...

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

4 years? Boy be getting the big bag on his next contract

At 31 ?

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

Good deal for both sides. Apparently Matthews wanted this amount on his first deal and the Leafs got quite the discount given his production and hardware. McDavid will obviously aim higher (and he should) and this is also wonderful as it means market prices are being paid. Hopefully the Cap goes up subsequently so all in the League can benefit.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Dubas got out of Toronto just in time

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Matthews has won two Rocket Richards in the last three years and the Hart in 2021-2022.

It is incredible that people are still debating whether he is among the very elite in the NHL, but that's HF for ya...

Where would you rank him last year?

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

be serious guy

mcdavid
dri
mack
makar
matthews

And he can better than all but Mcdavid any given season …

 

[Hockey Outsider]

95% signing bonuses again, atta boy Auston. Maximize those tax breaks.

My ballpark calculation is this will allow him to save around an extra $5-6M in income tax over the course of his contract. (This is roughly equivalent to him getting paid $15-15.5M, had it all been salary). Good for Matthews for getting good tax advice.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Where would you rank him last year?

Behind Mcdavid . Any other names would be highly arguable.

Edit : thought he meant the year prior - mvp season

 

[GreytWun]

Matthews has won two Rocket Richards in the last three years and the Hart in 2021-2022.

It is incredible that people are still debating whether he is among the very elite in the NHL, but that's HF for ya...

Great. What’s he done in the playoffs ?

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Behind Mcdavid . Any other names would be highly arguable.

Last year?
He wasn’t even in the top 10.
Take off the homer goggles.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Hard to argue with 0.62 goals per game over his career so far.

Where a ‘bad’ season is still ppg and 40 goals lol

The guy has averaged over 50 goals per 82 games for his entire career so far. How many players have a stat like that?

It's an impressive stat.

But Cale Makar is a defenseman who's averaging over a point per game in both the regular season and playoffs over his career so far. He's also already won a Cup, Conn Smythe and Norris.

Over his last 3 seasons, Draisaitl has scored 403 points in 248 regular season and playoff games. That's 1.63 pts/game. How many players have had a sustained scoring run like that?

Kucherov, in his last 4 seasons, has put up 366 points in 273 games. Alongside a Cup, Hart and Art Ross.

McDavid is McDavid.

So as many have said, Matthews is not a shoe-in for "top 3". Even if you ignore last season.

 

[htpwn]

Where would you rank him last year?

Where would you rank Ovechkin if this was 2017?

 

[Skolman]

be serious guy

mcdavid
drai
mack
makar
matthews

Matthews is top 5 because he's had 1 elite season?

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Where would you rank Ovechkin if this was 2017?

Ovechkin proved it was just a down year. Matthews hasn’t proved that yet.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Last year?
He wasn’t even in the top 10.
Take off the homer goggles.

My bad I thought that the year prior , the mvp season was the topic . May have got the glut of posts mixed up . He had an off /injury plagued year no doubt .

 

[al secord]

Hit 'em with a 4

 

[Nstar to Wild]

Let me ask you this.

If Matthews signed a 9 year - 12.355M deal under a higher cap after his ELC - would you have been happier?

I think most people would have preferred Matthews to sign an 8 x 11.64 million originally (vs 5 years). This would have covered 3 of the 4 years of the current extension just signed - That's my opinion anyway

 

[Skolman]

Where would you rank Ovechkin if this was 2017?

You can't compare Matthews to Ovechkin

 

[WetcoastOrca]

My bad I thought that the year prior , the mvp season was the topic . May have got the glut of posts mixed up . He had an off /injury plagued year no doubt .

I agree he had a bad year for sure. We will see if he regains his form.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Where would you rank Ovechkin if this was 2017?

Interesting question. If you, let's say, look at 2012-2017, Ovechkin was no doubt a top-end player. But he wouldn't be a unanimous "top 3" guy. Lots of people would have had Crosby, Kane, Malkin and maybe even Doughty above him.

And I think the league had less top-end talent then than it does now.

 

[JadedLeaf]

Careful you might accidentally befriend a bunch of Leafs fans that way

 

[TheNumber4]

Lol loves being a Leaf so much that it took an extreme overpay to keep him there. And still, he’s only willing to commit 4 years.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

It's an impressive stat.

But Cale Makar is a defenseman who's averaging over a point per game in both the regular season and playoffs over his career so far. He's also already won a Cup, Conn Smythe and Norris.

Over his last 3 seasons, Draisaitl has scored 403 points in 248 regular season and playoff games. That's 1.63 pts/game. How many players have had a sustained scoring run like that?

Kucherov, in his last 4 seasons, has put up 366 points in 273 games. Alongside a Cup, Hart and Art Ross.

McDavid is McDavid.

So as many have said, Matthews is not a shoe-in for "top 3". Even if you ignore last season.

Mcdavid also massively impacts Drais totals so that’s a consideration ( I know at times they play on different lines but that pp , fueled largely by Mcdavid was
/is historic ) .

 

[Strangle]

It's an impressive stat.

But Cale Makar is a defenseman who's averaging over a point per game in both the regular season and playoffs over his career so far. He's also already won a Cup, Conn Smythe and Norris.

Over his last 3 seasons, Draisaitl has scored 403 points in 248 regular season and playoff games. That's 1.63 pts/game. How many players have had a sustained scoring run like that?

Kucherov, in his last 4 seasons, has put up 366 points in 273 games. Alongside a Cup, Hart and Art Ross.

McDavid is McDavid.

So as many have said, Matthews is not a shoe-in for "top 3". Even if you ignore last season.

Those are all great players, I’m not even sure how I’d rank them all. But the issue here are people saying matthews is the worst super star in the league and This contract is too much money.

People are saying pasta is better than matthews, people are saying he’s ‘done nothing’ to earn about 15% of the cap. People are saying Matthews is not only a worse player than Mackinnon, but that Mackinnon is closer to Mcdavid than matthews is to Mackinnon.

So if a couple people have matthews ranked 2-3 spots higher than you do on the ‘best players in the league’ list, I’m willing to just split the difference and move on.

The other side of thise coin, the posters absolutely insulting and shitting on matthews, those are the ones who obviously need to be told that matthews has averaged 50+ goals per 82 games over the course of 7 seasons.

 

[CupofOil]

I don't understand the shock at the term. It's been speculated for a long time from many insiders that the Matthews extension wouldn't be a long term one. That's a pretty high AAV for that short a term though. Not good news for Oilers/Draisaitl fans.