Fordy
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well if an overpayment and no long term commitment is on the tableWait, I thought all American players wanted to leave Canada because of covid protols that have been over for a year
well if an overpayment and no long term commitment is on the tableWait, I thought all American players wanted to leave Canada because of covid protols that have been over for a year
I mean lets just look at sample sizes of all the players to make our points...........got it.
Matthews was given a full no trade clause that kicked in on July 1st thanks to Dubas, so even that option was not really on the table for Treliving.Honestly about time top NHL players started using their leverage more. What was Toronto going to do? Trade or let him walk??
lol it’s great for the player, how does the short term and cap hit in any way benefit the team?Good contract for player and team. Nothing wrong with settling for 4 years and betting on yourself. This can go to either Austons or the Leafs advantage in 2028.
Have you ever watched these players? Matthews last 2 seasons 1.30 points per game. Mackinnon 1.46 and a cup. He also drives the offence on his line. Not Marner.You just outdid my terrible take......thanks for taking me off the hook
I never argued the bad contract, its fair but Toronto definitely whishes they could lock up a player like him longer. What I did say is many Toronto fans ripping Dubas for not being able to "negotiate" and here they are with Trev only getting a top player in the league on 4 years.Nobody is denying that Matthews is in the upper echelon of players, alongside MacKinnon, Pastrnak, Kucherov, etc. Depending on the year, those guys will move around in the "rankings".
So he definitely should be paid like them. 13.25M on an 8-year deal would have been perfectly understandable. He gets a slight "Toronto and playing in Canada" premium. That's fair.
But getting more than MacKinnon despite demanding half the term? That's what's dumb.
yeah i would imagine he feels great about that? most guys are mid 30s and dropping off when they’re signing their final contractThat is a bad deal for Matthews IMO, great for Toronto. Unless he is feeling good about receiving a 7/8 years deal as 31 years old which I am doubtful he will get that.
How do you see that spike looking? How much on average over the next 8 years?Aav is fine for a top 5 player with a massive cap spike. With the remaining year on his deal this is 5 years of knowing AM34 anchors the franchise.
Okay but after THIS one he's going to Arizona.
Nearly 2 full years … try again .Hes like barely a year younger and scored almost 30 less points. I guess taylor hall should have also made 10+M after his hart
Yeah we spent the last 5 years with everyone just explaining how it would unfold and how Matthews was going to leave.Don’t get your panties in a knot, just explaining to you , how it will unfold. Relax dude.
I disagree. Players career peak is between 24 and 30 years old. He will not get that much terms/salary after that peak. Toronto basically will have Matthews for the greatest part/all of AM peak.Nobody is denying that Matthews is in the upper echelon of players, alongside MacKinnon, Pastrnak, Kucherov, etc. Depending on the year, those guys will move around in the "rankings".
So he definitely should be paid like them. 13.25M on an 8-year deal would have been understandable. He'd get a slight "Toronto and playing in Canada" premium. Higher taxes, more pressure... you can wrap your head around that.
But getting more than MacKinnon despite demanding half the term? That's what's dumb.
Leafs had no choice or bargaining power... I get that. But he definitely took advantage. Took them to the cleaners again. That's his right, I suppose.
Last year with Tkachuk, this year with Dubios.Since when are there ever actual sign and trades in the NHL lol
Never watched them................Nates one of my favorite players to watch.Have you ever watched these players? Matthews last 2 seasons 1.30 points per game. Mackinnon 1.46 and a cup. He also drives the offence on his line. Not Marner.
I never argued the bad contract, its fair but Toronto definitely whishes they could lock up a player like him longer. What I did say is many Toronto fans ripping Dubas for not being able to "negotiate" and here they are with Trev only getting a top player in the league on 4 years.
I said he was a top 3 player in the league, I think its fair and very arguable.
How did they compare in the regular season ? Quit dancing around it . He’s an elite elite player .The year prior Mack was the leading goal scorer in the playoffs and won a cup. Something matthews may never come close to.