Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[3ladesof5teel]

Pasta is a good player, but he’s never won any rockets, no art Ross’s, no harts, nothing.

Matthews has a hart and multiple rockets.

He did win a rocket but my point still stands. AM is younger and better overall

 

[TLEH]

what is the current maximum cap hit allowed for one player? isnt it around 16?and where could i find this info for future reference?

the max you can make is 20% of the upper limit of the salary cap. So 16.3 was the max. Now it’s higher.

 

[Killer Orcas]

You can tell he really wants to win eh

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Okay but after THIS one he's going to Arizona.

Arizona will be relocated before you'll win another cup ... and we all know Bettman won't relocate them.

 

[Strangle]

Pastrnak won the Rocket in 19/20.

Last 4 seasons:

Pastrnak: 169 goals, 333 points in 272 games (1.22pts/game)
Matthews: 188 goals, 337 points in 269 games (1.25pts/game)

Seems pretty similar.

Oh he did, I forgot that. Must be why he’s even as close as he is to matthews AAV.

Point is, however Matthews has multiple rockets and a hart trophy. So, he has more accolades than pasta, and he’s a better hockey player than pasta.

Not that hard to understand

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

what is the current maximum cap hit allowed for one player? isnt it around 16?

the max you can make is 20% of the upper limit of the salary cap.

ahh that makes more sense than a preset number; thanks!

 

[Seanaconda]

That shiny Hart Trophy from last year says hi. Hopefully he isn’t injured this year so he’s back in the discussion again this season

Hmm he only won because scoring 60 was historic . When McDavid beats him in points yet again he already proved he can score 60 I can't see matthews winning another unless a couple guys are hurt

 

[Golden_Jet]

Pasta is a good player, but he’s never won any rockets, no art Ross’s, no harts, nothing.

Only watch one team I see

 

[one2gamble]

I get why people wanted 8 but honestly, at his age I would rather the four. The way the game is changing these 8 year contracts into a players mid 30's are a team issue.

 

[Strangle]

He did win a rocket but my point still stands. AM is younger and better overall

Matthews is better, 100%

 

[3ladesof5teel]

No order necessary but quite easily McDavid, MacKinnon, Makar, Draisaitl, etc.

Mcdavid that's it. With MacKinnon you have arguments but AM is younger.

Draisaitl no way. You put Matthews on the same team as McDavid and you see it open up for him.

And then your throwing defenders in there?

Quit talking yourself around it. He's a top 3 player in the league

 

[Strangle]

Only watch one team I see

I forgot about his rocket win. But even that, matthews has more of them lol

And a hart.

And he’s a better hockey player

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Mcdavid that's it. With MacKinnon you have arguments but AM is younger.

Draisaitl no way. You put Matthews on the same team as McDavid and you see it open up for him.

And then your throwing defenders in there?

Quit talking yourself into it. He's a top 3 player in the league

Plenty of desperate validation of Matthews in this section.

 

[Miro4Norris]

How many years till these smart people start talking about him going to Arizona Kings again?

AAV is kinda high tho, MacKinnon and pasta signed wayyy better contacts for team considering Mack is better and pasta might be just as good

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

I thought he was going to Zona, New York, Los Angeles ...

Ohhh nooo here come the AAV kings and queens to complain about the money. Go focus your energy on that min wage job you got

Good luck winning a cup when all your star players refuse to take any sort of discount deals. Look at what Crosby did for Pittsburgh.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Oh he did, I forgot that. Must be why he’s even as close as he is to matthews AAV.

Point is, however Matthews has multiple rockets and a hart trophy. So, he has more accolades than pasta, and he’s a better hockey player than pasta.

Not that hard to understand

He's not $2M better on a shorter-term deal.

They're in the same tier of players.

McDavid
--
Draisaitl
MacKinnon
Makar
--
Matthews
Pastrnak
Kucherov
Etc.

Matthews fair value is $11.25-$11.75M. The Leafs just screwed themselves with his last deal. Of course he expected a raise. But Treliving's position should have been that he wasn't the one who signed that deal. So either take less short-term or sign for 7/8.

He, just like Dubas, got neither term nor savings.

 

[Divine]

what is the current maximum cap hit allowed for one player? isnt it around 16?

and where could i find this info for future reference?

Take the cap and multiply it by .2. It would have been 16.7M this year.

 

[Golden_Jet]

And escrow repayment is why it’s been stagnant. The cap will rise, or is that now the string hfb will cling to now in order to say the leafs are screwed

Don’t quote me then, if your going to talk about something, totally different , sheesh, address the quote or not.

 

[Auston Marlander]

Four years is a big oof.

Wait...I thought he was walking to Arizona. Oh no, that's just the goal posts moving.

 

[Nineteen67]

Why is that? Is matthews going to retire after this contract or something?

What are you even talking about? When a contract expires does the hockey player turn into a pumpkin?

I suppose they could overpay him again.

The bigger issue is they’re on the back end of the Matthews era and they still dont have a competitive D, nothing in the minors, and no draft picks to help rebuild.

Astonishing.

 

[Hale The Villain]

How many years till these smart people start talking about him going to Arizona Kings again?

AAV is kinda high tho, MacKinnon and pasta signed wayyy better contacts for team considering Mack is better and pasta might be just as good

Should be talking about it now. Beyond obvious it's happening.

If Arizona weren't playing in a college arena and a complete disaster of a team he probably would be walking next summer to go there.

Makes sense for him to spend the next 4 years on a potential contender and go down south in his 30s for the remainder of his career.

 

[Ezpz]

Matthews, unlike, those players, has been talked about as being the second best player in the game

Kane has more hardware than Matthews and was the best player in the league for a short period. Those talks are also closed. Matthews is at best the fourth best forward. Even by pace he was 17th in the league in scoring last year which most top 3 players don't have seasons like that. Even if you count the past three seasons, which includes the two best of Matthews' career, he is 6th in scoring and 5th in pace.

 

[93gilmour93]

Hmm he only won because scoring 60 was historic . When McDavid beats him in points yet again he already proved he can score 60 I can't see matthews winning another unless a couple guys are hurt

A healthy Mcdavid should win it again this year but I did say in the discussion for Auston if he’s healthy all year. It’s very possible he’s back in the top three finalists again.

60 goals has won the last two the last two Hart trophies so let’s call this season the tiebreaker

 

[Clark4Ever]

On the surface, the AAV and term are disappointing, but that is 100% Kyle Dubas' fault.

Treliving inherited a situation wherein he literally had zero leverage. Under the circumstances, I think he did as well as can be expected.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Good luck winning a cup when all your star players refuse to take any sort of discount deals. Look at what Crosby did for Pittsburgh.

15.9% of the cap% is more than fair, if not a discount. Everyone gets fixed on the number and not the cap%. This deal has nothing to do with deals signed between 17-21.