Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[Strangle]

Ive also been here for 15 years. If youre still talking all day in a hockey forum in July-Aug, you need to seek help, or atleast other hobbies.

Or if you’ve posted 40k times in 15 years … you’re living in a glass house and shouldn’t throw stones.

You’ve been here about the same amount of time as I have, man.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

I’m happy to take a shot with this core for the next four years then plan on retooling if it doesn’t work out.

I don’t need to see Matthews in blue and white for his whole career. He’s never felt like the kind of team-first player or captain material that I’d hate to see walk.

We’ll have him for his prime, and if he doesn’t win a cup with us, we’ll get a lot of good hockey out of it and playoffs every year at minimum.

Could be a lot worse.

That said, it’s not like Treliving is a big step up on Dubas at the negotiating table, which is a bit disappointing.

5 *

 

[MoreMogilny]

God awful aav Trevling goes from overpaying Huberdeau to overpaying Matthews.

The AAV isn’t bad. It’s 1.6M more than his previous deal. That’s not a big raise. Especially with projected cap increases

It’s the term that leaves a sour taste

Little bit of dramatics in this thread.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Um …. Hart trophy and some rockets

I guess people missed that and he's just hitting his prime.

I know people like to throw shade at Toronto but Matthews is a great talent.

Rather laughable in all aspects.

Matthews is not close to top 3, nor is he "much better" than Pastrnak.

Who's your 3 big guy.....I'll wait.

 

[Golden_Jet]

And escrow repayment is why it’s been stagnant. The cap will rise, or is that now the string hfb will cling to now in order to say the leafs are screwed

Stagnant/ escrow lol, was never brought up, you said the cap has been rising by 3-5% a year, I said that was mostly because of the escalator, and you replied with a different topic lol.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Gets paid more, with even less term than before.

Yikes. What an awful contract.

 

[Strangle]

Lots of players win the Hart. Winning the Hart means you were deemed to be the most valuable player in that particular season by a small group of media members. Kudos to him for that.

It doesn't mean you should be paid significantly more than someone else in the future.

Last 4 seasons:

Pastrnak: 169 goals, 333 points in 272 games (1.22pts/game)
Matthews: 188 goals, 337 points in 269 games (1.25pts/game)

Seems pretty similar.

Matthews plays the premier position but Pasta signed for 8 years not 4. With that factored in, I don't know why Matthews is getting $2M more moving forward.

Pasta is a good player, but he’s never won any rockets, no art Ross’s, no harts, nothing.

Matthews has a hart and multiple rockets.

 

[Seanaconda]

everybody take 8!!!!! just not auston he can do whatever he wants, sick of it

He's an ufa he didn't have to sign at all.

Happy to all you leaf fans at least he was willing to stay even if he is gonna take market value .

 

[Metroid]

So wait.... He's a leaf for another 5 years......
Thought he wanted out asap. Main boards fail once again.

 

[shortfuze]

It’s not about me being happy. It’s about me watching sports for a long time and I dont recall a team’s star player ever doing something comparable. Especially not in hockey.

It’s just interesting, and slightly humorous as a non-Toronto fan (I’m a Sabres fan, there’s just as much funny stuff about my team, if not more).


Let me ask you, are you happy your best player just demanded and got a million more than every other star contract…and wouldnt go more than four years unlike literally every other top contract

Pretty sure it was eichel that created the trend of signing for 8 years in a cap world. Could be wrong Though. signing these 8 year contracts also handcuffs the teams long term. it works both way. Guys sign max term withless average or guys signing short term with more average. The 8 year contracts haven’t been around long enough to fully see how they will affect teams in the long term.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Lots of players win the Hart. Winning the Hart means you were deemed to be the most valuable player in that particular season by a small group of media members. Kudos to him for that.

It doesn't mean you should be paid significantly more than someone else in the future.

Last 4 seasons:

Pastrnak: 169 goals, 333 points in 272 games (1.22pts/game)
Matthews: 188 goals, 337 points in 269 games (1.25pts/game)

Seems pretty similar.

Matthews plays the premier position but Pasta signed for 8 years not 4. With that factored in, I don't know why Matthews is getting $2M more moving forward.

Because he is younger and a better overall player.

 

[BrokenFace]

Matthews a top 3 player?

He's definitely in the top 3 of the Core Four

 

[93gilmour93]

Rather laughable in all aspects.

Matthews is not close to top 3, nor is he "much better" than Pastrnak.

That shiny Hart Trophy from last year says hi. Hopefully he isn’t injured this year so he’s back in the discussion again this season

 

[disgruntleddave]

The reality is that this is not great, but not that bad. He could have walked to free agency and gotten that or more. If matthews hits free agency, especially with a higher cap, he gets this easy.

So, he chose to stay and he gets what he would have gotten. It's not great but it's not bad. 5 more years of matthews including next year is a-ok for me.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Not in a cap world.

Yes in a cap world. A true star is much more valuable to a team than a mid roster guy (double or more), but they're paid like 20-50% more.

Even in the same cap world of the NHL, star salaries are proportionally worse now than they were 15 years ago.

 

[Mighty Makar]

The AAV isn’t bad. It’s 1.6M more than his previous deal. That’s not a big raise. Especially with projected cap increases

It’s the term that leaves a sour taste

Little bit of dramatics in this thread.

I totally agree. AAV isn’t bad, it’s the term. If this was 8 years, it would be way better. We’re happy Nate settled for 8 years at $12.6M.

 

[Skolman]

The best part is that 4 years in pretty much any other sport is long term. 8 year deals are pretty insane tbh, rarely ever work so the whole narrative is kinda funny. HF really is Twitter lite.

Uh, yes they do for superstars that sign in their younger years. Show me a few superstars in recent memory that signed 8 year deals when they were 25 or younger where it didn't work out

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Pasta is a good player, but he’s never won any rockets, no art Ross’s, no harts, nothing.

Matthews has a hart and multiple rockets.

Pastrnak won the Rocket in 19/20.

Last 4 seasons:

Pastrnak: 169 goals, 333 points in 272 games (1.22pts/game)
Matthews: 188 goals, 337 points in 269 games (1.25pts/game)

Seems pretty similar.

 

[Dack]

I do not understand the hand wringing over this. Toronto has to pay him, you can't play hardball with a player of this calibre. Him leaving your franchise is infinitely worse than "overpaying" him. What's more, I don't even know that they're really overpaying him. He makes slightly more than Mackinnon and McDavid, it's not like he set the new AAV record by 4-5 million dollars. It's less than a 3 million dollar raise fromvhis RFA contract. I think all of those guys are so valuable that even if they were given the max AAV the cap allows they would still be worth it.

Additionally, it's obvious based on his post ELC deal and now this one that Matthews is trying to maximize his earnings. Friedman (?) said his camp was unwilling to go longer than 4 and even pushed for 3. IMO they were never going to budge on that, so I think you just be happy he's not headed to UFA potentially ending any contention window the Leafs have.

I hate the Leafs but I'm not going to clown them for paying what they had to in order to keep one of the NHL's best players.

 

[Leafidelity]

Or if you’ve posted 40k times in 15 years … you’re living in a glass house and shouldn’t throw stones

I love talking about hockey. I and many others leave when the season ends. The people still in here talking about players astrological signs in the middle of summer are not representative of any fanbase.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

what is the current maximum cap hit allowed for one player? isnt it around 16?

and where could i find this info for future reference?

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Cap jumps next year just in time for Marner. I'm guessing he goes for $13.75x8 giving the Leafs a discount adjusting for inflation, cap hit, yadayada

 

[Strangle]

Really limits Leafs window to win down to three years, if there will ever be one.
This year is more than likely a write-off with the cap problems, no D ,and an odd collection of forwards.
They get some cap relief next year and 11 million more when JT retires. They need to acquire 4 really solid D in and have 2 yrs to do it.

Oh and Buffalo and Ottawa…..

Why is that? Is matthews going to retire after this contract or something?

What are you even talking about? When a contract expires does the hockey player turn into a pumpkin?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I guess people missed that and he's just hitting his prime.

I know people like to throw shade at Toronto but Matthews is a great talent.


Who's your 3 big guy.....I'll wait.

No order necessary but quite easily McDavid, MacKinnon, Makar, Draisaitl, etc.

 

[Tripod]

I would rather be a rebuilding team than overpay a premadonna an amount he doesn’t deserve. Mark my words he and the TML will win nothing so long as we have him on the team. I would trade him one goal behind Sundin’s all
Time TML goal record just to ensure he has no legacy here.

Start moving this group out and start the rebuild!!

Lol...you are delusional.

There is no timeline in existence where Tre cones in, and trades everyone off. They may not win it all, but they make money for MLSE. And that matters. They are entertaining to watch. And that matters.

wanting to rebuild right now is such a loser attitude. You must be young because clearly you have not had to live thru the awful Ballard years.