Confirmed with Link: [TOR/COL] F Denis Malgin for F Dryden Hunt

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I guess you could say this, Malgin turned out to be exactly the same as his first stint with the Leafs. A tweener that didn’t fit and couldn’t gel, skilled but hard to see as a playoff regular. My only criticism then, Dubas thinking it would be different this time.
Colorado seems to see a skillset worth taking a chance on. It will be interesting to see if he finds success there. Colorado pro scouts have hit on many players.
 
Colorado seems to see a skillset worth taking a chance on. It will be interesting to see if he finds success there. Colorado pro scouts have hit on many players.
Are they really taking much of a chance though, they gave up nothing really? Both sides pretty much did the same thing.
 
Are they really taking much of a chance though, they gave up nothing really? Both sides pretty much did the same thing.

exactly im not sure why ppl are complain about a couple of 4th liners being traded ,
i actually prefer hunt because at least if hes not scoring is a super effective grinder and physical pressence, meanwhile malgin without scoring is a poor mans kerfoot.
 

Why the Maple Leafs traded Denis Malgin for Dryden Hunt


Toronto Maple Leafs' head coach Sheldon Keefe speaks about new left winger Dryden Hunt and discusses what he brings to the team after being traded from the Colorado Avalanche for centre Denis Malgin.

Desperate to fill a gaping second-line left wing hole, preferably for cheap, Malgin was given a legitimate shot to use his best attributes in Toronto, even winning a contentious roster spot over homegrown prospect Nick Robertson coming out of training camp. The man whose name comes up as a search error on HockeyFights.com was a long shot to refashion Toronto’s bottom six. But maybe Malgin’s offence could translate six time zones to the west and he could play third fiddle to a pair of the Maple Leafs’ elite.

Well, in his unceremonious final appearance as a Leaf, Malgin was a dash-2 in Saturday’s 5-2 loss to Washington, despite skating a season-high 15:30 alongside Mitch Marner and John Tavares — two stars who’ve made careers out of elevating those in their orbit. Malgin, 25, leaves Toronto (again) on a 12-game point drought and a 17-game goal drought. He registered two goals and two assists while appearing in 23 of the Leafs’ 32 games.

Enter Dryden Hunt, a pure fourth-line left wing who knows his job.

“Guy that plays hard. Pretty simple game. Physical and competitive,” Leafs coach Sheldon Keefe told reporters. “Not a lot has happened for him offensively in the NHL, but he has scored at the AHL level. Protects the puck well. To that end, brings a little different element to the depth of the team.". “It’s just a different type of player,” Keefe said of the trade. “We’re just trying to change up the depth of our team a little bit here.”

This is a depth move that could give Toronto’s fourth line some bite and flexibility.

But, like Malgin, Hunt doesn’t fill the top-six vacancy.


That's certainly why the Leafs likely wanted Hunt.

But doesn't speculate on why the Avs have a specific interest in Malgin - nobody forced them to trade for such a small player like him.
 
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That's certainly why the Leafs likely wanted Hunt.

But doesn't speculate on why the Avs have a specific interest in Malgin - nobody forced them to trade for such a small player like him.
Avs are desperate for secondary scoring. They need all the help they can get with offense. Malgin may be able to create a few extra chances per game than Hunt.
 
Hunt is coming in for ZAR next game.

Probably not going to make much of a difference but Hunt has better defensive underlying numbers.

Edit: nevermind, ZAR is still in despite the jerseys.
 
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Malgin got the shitty end of the stick for sure.

He had a great pre-season, started off the season well and then was benched for too many games IMO.

All because we had Kerfoot on the team IMO.
 
You clearly did not watch Marlies games if you thought Marchment was a good player... He was mediocre at his peak. His skating was not going to be anywhere close to good enough for our system.

Good for him for figuring it out in Florida, but that doesn't change the fact that he was a nothing prospect here and Malgin had a lot more potential to turn into something. Which is not too dissimilar to the McKegg-Hyman trade. Or even Douglas-Timmins for that matter. I am guessing you didn't like either of those either, or do you only like the trades that work out? You must love that we got Hunt, since we got the Marchment/McKegg player in the deal this time.

I am making that Marchment-Malgin trade again, just like I would make the McKegg-Hyman and Douglas-Timmins trades again. So far, we are 3/3 in getting guys who can take an everyday shift in the NHL out of those trades, and only one guy we have sent back can say the same... So if, for example, CBJ wanted to do Bemstrom for McMann, I'd do that trade too. Maybe we can go 4/4, and McMann seems like the kind of guy who would thrive in Columbus.
Dude I am as season ticket holder from day 1 .. I have even been to several road games in upper state NY when my son was also playing .. his skating to you non hockey people who watch excel spreadsheets instead of games at rink was getting much better as he developed .. and in practice he was doing very well in da sprints as he has always had a long stride but it took a little time for him to work on his hip extensions .. but we all saw it Barb did a very good job with Mason as he worked to extend his hip to strengthen his stride and have more more time on his outer edge .. anyways I should not get upset as you guys are spreadsheet guys not guys who have spend their lives on a rink or developing kids up to da show .. guys like Dubas have zero idear about skating and how long it takes for a big man to develop his skating stride .. it is why spreadsheet analytics guys will never figure it out .. they are just not close enough to game to understand da technical details and worse even understand when a kid is developing properly or not .. too much emphasis on points etc .. ps he figured out nothing in Florida .. Barb(TO) did all da work
 
Dude I am as season ticket holder from day 1 .. I have even been to several road games in upper state NY when my son was also playing .. his skating to you non hockey people who watch excel spreadsheets instead of games at rink was getting much better as he developed .. and in practice he was doing very well in da sprints as he has always had a long stride but it took a little time for him to work on his hip extensions .. but we all saw it Barb did a very good job with Mason as he worked to extend his hip to strengthen his stride and have more more time on his outer edge .. anyways I should not get upset as you guys are spreadsheet guys not guys who have spend their lives on a rink or developing kids up to da show .. guys like Dubas have zero idear about skating and how long it takes for a big man to develop his skating stride .. it is why spreadsheet analytics guys will never figure it out .. they are just not close enough to game to understand da technical details and worse even understand when a kid is developing properly or not .. too much emphasis on points etc .. ps he figured out nothing in Florida .. Barb(TO) did all da work
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Dude I am as season ticket holder from day 1 .. I have even been to several road games in upper state NY when my son was also playing .. his skating to you non hockey people who watch excel spreadsheets instead of games at rink was getting much better as he developed .. and in practice he was doing very well in da sprints as he has always had a long stride but it took a little time for him to work on his hip extensions .. but we all saw it Barb did a very good job with Mason as he worked to extend his hip to strengthen his stride and have more more time on his outer edge .. anyways I should not get upset as you guys are spreadsheet guys not guys who have spend their lives on a rink or developing kids up to da show .. guys like Dubas have zero idear about skating and how long it takes for a big man to develop his skating stride .. it is why spreadsheet analytics guys will never figure it out .. they are just not close enough to game to understand da technical details and worse even understand when a kid is developing properly or not .. too much emphasis on points etc .. ps he figured out nothing in Florida .. Barb(TO) did all da work
I'm not sure how anybody could argue that he figured out nothing in Florida when it took 2 years after he left here to do anything. Marchment did work on his skating during the 4 years he was here, but that only turned him from an ECHLer to a mediocre AHLer. Both Dubas and the individual you replied to are more informed on our prospects and their development than you, and you should probably learn from them instead of incorrectly labelling them "spreadsheet guys who don't watch games".
 
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I'm not sure how anybody could argue that he figured out nothing in Florida when it took 2 years after he left here to do anything. Marchment did work on his skating during the 4 years he was here, but that only turned him from an ECHLer to a mediocre AHLer.
So could one accurately infer that he was still a work in process and not "a mid-20s depth AHLer who doesn't look like he'll be anything notable"?
 
So could one accurately infer that he was still a work in process and not "a mid-20s depth AHLer who doesn't look like he'll be anything notable"?
I mean, technically everybody is a "work in progress". The issue is that he'd only progressed to be a mediocre AHLer by the time he hit his mid-20s, and wasn't seeing much progression beyond that, and that's extremely unlikely to produce an NHLer, much less somebody notable that could provide value to a team before they hit UFA status. Good for him for being a massive outlier, but we don't know if it would have happened if he stayed, and it did in fact take until he hit UFA status anyway. Such a nothing burger, and it's hilarious that we're still talking about it years later. Some can't let anything go.
 
I mean, technically everybody is a "work in progress". The issue is that he'd only progressed to be a mediocre AHLer by the time he hit his mid-20s, and wasn't seeing much progression beyond that, and that's extremely unlikely to produce an NHLer, much less somebody notable that could provide value to a team before they hit UFA status. Good for him for being a massive outlier, but we don't know if it would have happened if he stayed, and it did in fact take until he hit UFA status anyway. Such a nothing burger, and it's hilarious that we're still talking about it years later. Some can't let anything go.

The only relevant part left is that Bunting's agent is going to point to his client outscoring Marchment and demanding 5+ in UFA.
 
Both are nothing players.
We need heavy Weights like reaves and brashear in the playoffs.... not malgin. Malgin finna crumble unta presha in the playoffs. Not succeed. Malgin is a regular season player at most. We need Wilson, reaves, evander kane, glendeling and otha suckas for the three six mafia fight.
 
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Malgin for Hunt turns into the Marchment trade discussion for the nth time? Jesus H Christmas, can that one be dropped/banned from future discussions, please.

I hope things work out well for both players. Goodbye Denis, I hardly knew you. Mr Hunt, your challenge, should you choose to accept it...
 
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I mean, technically everybody is a "work in progress". The issue is that he'd only progressed to be a mediocre AHLer by the time he hit his mid-20s, and wasn't seeing much progression beyond that, and that's extremely unlikely to produce an NHLer, much less somebody notable that could provide value to a team before they hit UFA status. Good for him for being a massive outlier, but we don't know if it would have happened if he stayed, and it did in fact take until he hit UFA status anyway. Such a nothing burger, and it's hilarious that we're still talking about it years later. Some can't let anything go.
I dont see how he'd get the opportunity here that he did in FLA.

He was an extremely late bloomer, who got extra time to develop due to the pandemic and produced at a level similar to Vesey/Boyd who we were upgrading in his first NHL season. He was getting good minutes to produce at that level too, so he likely ends up on waivers or moved to upgrade in that season.

With that said, he was a good Marlie, especially late in his tenure.
 

Hunt will have to help the team’s fourth line emerge as the better unit when it faces strong fourth lines on Tampa Bay and Boston if they meet in the playoffs. Leafs coach Sheldon Keefe provided a hint of what he is expecting Tuesday when he gave Zach Aston-Reese, Pontus Holmberg and Joey Anderson added responsibilities in an impressive Leafs win over the Lightning. The Bruins and Lightning are dangerous threats in part because their third and fourth lines consistently outplay their counterparts.

Hunt figures to spend time on the fourth line, and his speed, his willingness to grind and his untapped offence could help the Leafs even up those lower-line battles.

“You see the skill and talent in (the Leafs’ dressing) room, and I’m not going to bring skill to this group, so (I can) bring energy, be strong on the forecheck,” Hunt said Wednesday, two days after being acquired from Colorado in a trade that sent Denis Malgin to the Avalanche.

Hunt worked out with Holmberg and Anderson on the fourth line Wednesday, while Aston-Reese took reps as an extra along with Wayne Simmonds. But Keefe said Hunt will not play against Philadelphia on Thursday, the Leafs’ last game before a four-day Christmas break.


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The 27-year-old Hunt knows his role. But he also knows a fourth-liner must chip in with some offence. He was a 58-goal scorer in his final junior season with Moose Jaw in 2015-16, but has just 14 goals and 42 points in 193 NHL games.

“When things don’t go right in this league right away, you kind of grip the stick tighter,” Hunt said. “But, hopefully, with more opportunity and more chances, you take advantage of it.”
 
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