Proposal: Tor - Clb
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Stephen Gionta
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Stephen Gionta
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LeafsNation149
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Nylander and Werenski are a wash.
are u saying Jenner is more valuable than JVR?
Hello Johnny
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He is to Columbus.
Hard pass here. I like Nylander, but Werenski will really strengthen our D corps in the coming years. Jenner for JVR is a big time no.
IBLEAF
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Werenski = Nylander more or less, but then you have to factor in if you count Nylander as a C or W
Jenner > JVR big time....
Jenner scores more goals and is a future captain...
Viqsi
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Stopped reading here, because no Leafs fan is going to offer up Auston Matthews. We have no reason to move those guys for anything less - Jenner is one of our best #1C candidates, and Werenski is a core part of the "killer blueline" strategy. If we give that up, we need a star #1C, not someone who might be acceptable in that position maybe.
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Yes. Easily.
Lol no he doesn't score more goals... and no he isn't worth more than jvr "big time". If you wanna argue that he's younger and cost controlled longer, fine, but better? I dunno, we'll see in a few years whether that's true or not
Viqsi
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Jenner had 30 goals this past season. JvR had 14 in 40 games - if you extrapolate that to a full season (always dubious, but perhaps justifiable in this case given his usual goal scoring totals), he's still short.
To be fair, Jenner hasn't done it consistently and JvR has. But that's different than "it doesn't happen".
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Both have 1 30 goal season and JVR usually flirts with it while Jenner just broke out. Yes there is reason to believe he has more upside and I can understand you putting value on leadership but you should stick to real facts. I can understand why CBJ would not do this, certainly it favours the Leafs.
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Well, Think GMs would offer more for Jenner or JVR if both hit themarket at the same time?.....
A good winger with a solid offensiv and maybe not as solid d-gam in JVR or a good C/W with a solid offensiv and a solid d-game.....
I know who I pay more for, and I´m not even a Jackets fan, more like the opposite,,
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From what I see:
Columbus is not interested in JVR over Jenner. (As a Leaf fan I tend to agree). I would stick with Jenner if I had him.
While they agree Werenski for Nylander is fair value, they would much rather stick with the future D. As for the Leafs, if we are trading Nylander, (while I wouldn't say no to Werenski, I'd much rather a RHD).
There is no deal to be had here.
WTFMAN99
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Nylander and Werenski is probably a wash - Columbus has some good defenseman in their system as it is and can afford to part with him if it did land them a potential #1C
However Jenner and JVR isn't all that close, as much as I really do like JVR, he's got 2 years left, Jenner is RFA still after his contract and is younger and therefore does hold more value.
However Jenner and JVR isn't all that close, as much as I really do like JVR, he's got 2 years left, Jenner is RFA still after his contract and is younger and therefore does hold more value.
The only way Columbus moves either of these players is for an established #1C and if Jenner is involved it will be a really really good one.
Nylander is probably more of a #2C, but will be a really good #2C.
JVR is a guy I wanted as the centerpiece of the Rick Nash deal years ago, so you know I like the guy as a player. Jenner is the type of player the CBJ franchise should be building around and not trading for a big goal scoring winger who may leave in a couple years.
This trade makes no sense on multiple levels.
Nylander is probably more of a #2C, but will be a really good #2C.
JVR is a guy I wanted as the centerpiece of the Rick Nash deal years ago, so you know I like the guy as a player. Jenner is the type of player the CBJ franchise should be building around and not trading for a big goal scoring winger who may leave in a couple years.
This trade makes no sense on multiple levels.
Easily when it comes to the Jackets. Younger, cheaper, and can play center as well as the wing. Potted 30 last season which is about what you'd expect from JvR. He's also far more consistent in playing a physical game.
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Agreed.
Both teams need to add to their high end players/prospects not simply move the holes around from one area to another.
Nylander for werenski is a no go, since he's not a RHD.
If this was a LHD, I'd probably do this deal.
If this was a LHD, I'd probably do this deal.
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WTFMAN99
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Don't be dramatic, you weren't offered Lupul and a 3rd.
Nylander is every bit of a great prospect as Werenski. JVR is a great player but is more of a "win now" player while Jenner has years of team control so that is where the trade crumbles - it would take an add from Toronto help balance it out but it's not *that* bad.
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Nylander and JVR both have value, but I'd prefer Werenski and Jenner. D are harder to find than small wingers. As for JVR and Jenner, both are talented, both have the ability to score 30, it just comes down to preference. All 4 players have good value, no one listed here is garbage. Just doesn't make sense for CBJ IMO.
