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Confirmed Trade: [TOR/BOS] Brandon Carlo (15% retained) for Fraser Minten, cond. 2026 1st round pick (top 5 protected), 2025 4th round pick

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Not sure what that one poster is talking about. Outside of that first game in Colorado he’s been great. We paid a high price but this guy is only making 4.1 million at 15% retained so it’s even less than that and he’s got 2 years left on his deal after this one. If he could carve out his time like McCabe has and down the road the Leafs can get an extension done with him this will be a steal.
 
Antropovsky said:
I didn't like the trade at first because I think Minten is a winner, but leafs truly needed a dependable youngish rh D with term. Got to give to get.
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Every contending team is willing to pay a 1st and a prospect for 3 years of control on a prime player at a prime position at an under market value cap hit.

Even if the 1st hits, typically you’re developing them, and they don’t mature until they’re 22-24 so then you get 3-4 prime years before they hit free agency if your lucky.

Or I can just get the player I want now and have a guaranteed 3 years of control.

Drafting a top player and getting 4+ years of elite play before you have to compete to keep them in free agency is very rare.

Even if I knew in advance that Boston were to get 4 years of Minten being a 40-45 point C, I would still pay the price to get Carlo. I value Brandon Carlo similar to a Ryan Strome type as I think a #4 rd making 3.5 = a 40-45 point 3c in terms of value.

For me to think we lose this deal, Boston would need to get 4+ years of Minten being a 50 + point center while we don’t win a cup or extend Carlo, or his play falls of a cliff. Or if we extend Carlo, don’t win a cup but Minten is better then 50 points and signs a very long term deal, then we also lose because in that scenario the 50 point c is just flat out more valuable then Carlo if they have him long term. Or the 1st hits in a similar way.
 
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I Hate Philadelphia said:
Has had a CF% >50 in ONE game out of seven with the Leafs. I've watched and he's the same slow, soft player who you only notice when he makes a terrible turnover.

I'll trust the stats over delusional Leaf fans trying to cope about a horrible trade their team made :).
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We are very happy with his game so far. He’s been a big addition to the backend

Your post said that he’s not good and laughing at leaf fans. He’s more than good from what we’ve seen so far. Also he’s been playing with Rielly who is really struggling this year.
 
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I Hate Philadelphia said:
Has had a CF% >50 in ONE game out of seven with the Leafs. I've watched and he's the same slow, soft player who you only notice when he makes a terrible turnover.

I'll trust the stats over delusional Leaf fans trying to cope about a horrible trade their team made :).
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CF% isn't a good indicator, the Leafs as a whole are a bad corsi team and focus more on high danger chances.

Since the TDL, for pairs that have played at least 60 minutes together, Rielly - Carlo are ranked 4th in xGF%, 6th in xGA/60, 2nd in high danger chance% and allow the 2nd fewest high danger chances/60

He has come in and helped form one of the best pairs in the NHL. What might be more impressive is he's turned a Rielly pair into an elite defensive one, especially with all of Mo's struggles this year
 
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leafsfan5 said:
CF% isn't a good indicator, the Leafs as a whole are a bad corsi team and focus more on high danger chances.

Since the TDL, for pairs that have played at least 60 minutes together, Rielly - Carlo are ranked 4th in xGF%, 6th in xGA/60, 2nd in high danger chance% and allow the 2nd fewest high danger chances/60

He has come in and helped form one of the best pairs in the NHL. What might be more impressive is he's turned a Rielly pair into an elite defensive one, especially with all of Mo's struggles this year
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4th in the league ?
 
He’s been a perfect #4. Big, RHD, defensively and positionally solid with a good stick, good at clearing the front of net.

Won’t lay big hits, decent first pass but nothing special, decent skater for his size and doesn’t provide much offence.

He is what he is, and a great fit on our defence by committee D corp. It’ll be great to have him around for the playoffs and 2 more years at the minimum, at a very reasonable cap hit.
 
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Who controls the puck more on his line, Carlo or Reilly? Carlo's giveaways have increased in his last couple years with Boston but they seem to have really taken a turn for the worse in Toronto. He use to be really hard to take the puck away from and seldom gave the puck away.
 
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PB37 said:
Who controls the puck more on his line, Carlo or Reilly? Carlo's giveaways have increased in his last couple years with Boston but they seem to have really taken a turn for the worse in Toronto. He use to be really hard to take the puck away from and seldom gave the puck away.
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A turn for the worse in Toronto? I’m not seeing it
 
PB37 said:
Who controls the puck more on his line, Carlo or Reilly? Carlo's giveaways have increased in his last couple years with Boston but they seem to have really taken a turn for the worse in Toronto. He use to be really hard to take the puck away from and seldom gave the puck away.
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Rielly for sure, but right now that pairing has been fantastic.

So far Carlo has been very good at breaking up plays and denying entries and Rielly is very quick to get to those pucks and dish it out.
 
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The Shadow said:
A turn for the worse in Toronto? I’m not seeing it
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He's got 14 giveaways in 7 games with Toronto, which is up from where he was with Boston, which was abysmal the past couple of years with turning over the puck. It's why I'm curious if he's handling the puck more than his partner because usually the guys who have the puck the most will have higher turnovers. You don't want your safe/reliable stay at home guy turning over the puck at a rate of 2 per game. Turnovers and weak attempts at clears that don't get out of the zone have been Carlo's Achilles heel the past couple of years.
 
Turin said:
He has not been the kind of number one defenseman teams who are true contenders have for a while now, except that one series against Tampa.
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I can't tell if you're talking about Rielly or Carlo but either way, they are both 2nd pair guys on the team. McCabe-Tanev is the top defensive pair that gets matched against the best players and generally do a good job.
 
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TheDoldrums said:
I can't tell if you're talking about Rielly or Carlo but either way, they are both 2nd pair guys on the team. McCabe-Tanev is the top defensive pair that gets matched against the best players and generally do a good job.
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I am talking about Reilly obviously. That Toronto has no true #1 defenseman is going to sink them.
 
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