Confirmed Trade: [TOR/BOS] Brandon Carlo (15% retained) for Fraser Minten, cond. 2026 1st round pick (top 5 protected), 2025 4th round pick

[AvroArrow]

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You don’t have an actual Vezina candidate. The triggered-ness or Toronto fans is wild. Your goaltending is suspect AF and the entire league knows it. But pretend your opponents are kicking their chops looking at a Stolrarz/Woll duo.

But beyond that I know you’re triggered because I literally posted that the acquisitions made sense and that I don’t believe in paying a goalie. Coming from a poster who is clearly a Rangers fan. I would not pay Igor in 100/100 scenarios. But acting like you have some stalwart duo is wild. You’ve had massively improved team defense. You can win a Cup with your tandem. Your tandem isn’t ever winning you a cup. Get the difference? I literally was mostly complimenting the
moves. It must be really hard living with the prosecution complex of a Leafs fan.

Anthony Stolarz is literally 2nd in GAA and SVP LOL, cope harder buddy

Woll has been great too

You just keep making yourself look clueless by doubling down on this garbage take that goaltending is an issue. Piece of advice, try watching the players you're commenting about.

Keep crying though, salty tears are delicious

Thanks for the laugh though

 

[McFlyingV]

the QoC of 64% vs 77% is not that significant a gap. That could literally come down to being stuck on the ice longer vs McDrai and Co due to icings. The QoT difference of 86% vs 31% is very relevant though Manson was stapled to Cam Fowler that year.

I think what is so important for Toronto here is they actually have size on their blue line now. Especially for the playoffs, Carlo can actually clear Tkachuk/Bennett from the front of the net and stand up to their toughness. We all know Toronto doesn't need more soft skill guys.

Ok but remember this. Manson was utilized as a 2nd pairing Dman while Carlo has been utilized as a 3rd pairing Dman at 5v5. It's much more than just the quality its the minutes.

Yes Carlo has the size to do it, but he's still inconsistent in doing it.

Here is my opinion on acquiring players like Carlo and Schenn for the playoffs and playing them outside of your #6/#7 position. It's completely brain dead thinking. To think you want a guy who legitimately can not move the puck and cannot get the puck out of his zone just because he's maybe a little better at clearing the net or defending. But here's the problem. These D men get hemmed in and get absolutely obliterated on zone time, so not only do they get them and their forwards caught out tired constantly in a long grind that is the playoffs, but they are also prone to more opportunities for shitty bounces to end up in the back of their net. Its the exact reason I hated Cody Ceci here. He had good PK numbers and he was a complete black hole for moving the puck out of the zone. Puck retrievals were ass. Puck moving was ass. And guess what he got absolutely torched because of it. It's not a recipe for success, and no amount of mental gymnastics of "well they need size not more soft skill guys" will convince me otherwise. I've watched it for 2 straight post-seasons. These type of D kill you in the playoffs.

Yes, you want size and strong competitors, but they need to be functional size. Carlo is not functional size.

 

[AvroArrow]

I read this post 4x and still don’t know wtf you’re trying to say

Basically that he hasn't watched a Leafs game since 2022 and Jack Campbell isn't reliable if you want to win a cup.

 

[ClarkSittler]

Difference here is that any Bruins fan with a brain has been saying Carlo is terrible for years.

 

[TomBlizzy12]

good defensively but limited offensively and plays way too passive for his size. he's going to make you pull your hair out with all the hits he passes up

Extensive concussion history does that to you

 

[Rob Brown]

It means auto correct changed licking to kicking. Mighty, mighty intellects over here on the Leads side of the aisle. Go back to my first post he responded to. It’s about 1% “I’m not convinced by Toronto’s goaltending” and 99% “good trades that make sense, plus I don’t believe goalies are the position to worry about”. Coming back with the whole wtf bro he’s Vezina worthy!!!! is just lame. We all know no Leaf is a Vezina nominee this year and that their goaltending duo is the only questionable link going into the playoffs. God forbid I say something honest whole complementing the most sensitive fan base in the league. Is it part of Marner’s contract that all Leafs fans have to be as soft as him, or is that a coincidence?

Yeah I suspected that, but 'pretend your opponents are licking their chops looking at a Stolarz/Woll duo.' still doesn't even make any sense. You think opponents are pretending to lick their chops? As in Stolarz/Woll are a good duo and the opponents have to tell themselves that they aren't? I know you think you sound smart and well spoken but your posts are incredibly disjointed and confusing. And the whole 'wow you guys are all so dumb and angry and triggered' while your posts read like exactly what you are accusing others of is ironic.

 

[TIGERCOOL]

This deal is giving me Andrew Raycroft, Tuukka Rask vibes.

This could come back to bite Toronto for years if Minten reaches his full potential.

Minten has limited offensive upside, and is an average skater at best. If things go well for him, he'll be Scott Laughton in 4 years.

 

[Commander Clueless]

This is the best D the leafs have had in two decades

Admittedly, that's a low bar.

I think this is the first time in a long time that we've had two legitimate top 4 RD.

 

[Leafshater67]

I really like this leafs blueline. They’re going to need all the help they can get to go through Florida and or Tampa though now. Damn

 

[Miami Panther]

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Anthony Stolarz is literally 2nd in GAA and SVP LOL, cope harder buddy

Woll has been great too

You just keep making yourself look clueless by doubling down on this garbage take that goaltending is an issue. Piece of advice, try watching the players you're commenting about.

Keep crying though, salty tears are delicious

Thanks for the laugh though

His stats are impressive no doubt. But Vezina candidates play only 23 games?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Extensive concussion history does that to you

It predates his concussions. He's been soft from day 1

 

[29Potvin]

Cowan was awful at the wotld juniors.

Niemelä was the top dman and had what 8pts in 7 games?
Tell me about how WJ is the best indicator of a player

 

[Breakers]

This seems like ……….. A lot

 

[Score08]

He can lay the body, his strong enough to clear the front of the net, and he's going to stand up for teammates in a scrum. Physical doesn't mean you need to send someone to the infirmary it means you don't shy away from contact

Listen I’m a bruins fan and have watched every single professional game that Carlo has played, and he’s done none of those things that you mentioned. He refuses to clear the front of the net, refuses to use his size, can’t recall him ever standing up in a scrum that was noteworthy. There’s a reason Ive nicknamed him Herman munster, he’s the softest 6’5 defenseman you’ll ever see play. Not saying he suck’s, he plays relatively safe responsible hockey, he just won’t be what people are expecting. He’ll be fine, just readjust the expectations from chara to Hal Gill.

 

[Prairie Habs]

the QoC of 64% vs 77% is not that significant a gap. That could literally come down to being stuck on the ice longer vs McDrai and Co due to icings. The QoT difference of 86% vs 31% is very relevant though Manson was stapled to Cam Fowler that year.

I think what is so important for Toronto here is they actually have size on their blue line now. Especially for the playoffs, Carlo can actually clear Tkachuk/Bennett from the front of the net and stand up to their toughness. We all know Toronto doesn't need more soft skill guys.

Kind of a a funny example to pick considering Carlo has been eliminated by the Panthers two years in a row

 

[majormajor]

I'm surprised that it's 1st + Minten - if that's the deal. Carlo has been bad for Boston for a while. I do wonder if he might fit great next to Rielly and rekindle the type of dynamic Carlo had with Krug. But for a soft guy who can't move the puck and was recently playing below Andrew Peeke in the lineup I think this is a big return.

 

[Coach Parker]

Big price to pay but the Leafs D and G look great going into the playoffs. That's all that matters. Same as Florida and Colorado. They are a better team than they were 24 hours ago and the costs were prospects and picks.

 

[Dellstrom]

Admittedly, that's a low bar.

I think this is the first time in a long time that we've had two legitimate top 4 RD.

The best Toronto D in years, and probably the best Bruins center prospect since Bergeron. Incredible milestones for both teams

 

[FerrisRox]

Minten traded? Watch the Leafs fan that were claiming him to be a lock 1st liner now say that he was at most a good 3rd liner

There were no Leaf fans saying that Minten was a lock first liner.

 

[majormajor]

Carlo can actually clear Tkachuk/Bennett from the front of the net and stand up to their toughness. We all know Toronto doesn't need more soft skill guys.

The only reason I wouldn't characterize Carlo as a soft skill guy is because he is so lacking in skill. He isn't going to help move Tkachuk and Bennett. He is a soft player. A very big rangy soft player who skates well and defends a big area, there are some virtues. But definitely soft.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

My favorite type of thread..... where everyone bashes the traded player, prospect etc. or whoever to make the deal seem ok, or more lopsided than it is.

Like clockwork.

 

[BLNY]

Well they said they need to add a number 3 center and RHD d... Before it started and did that...

Usually they shit on them lol. I know it's hard for you to understand that because it's the Leafs but maybe be objective

You quote the wrong person? How is what I said anything but objective? JFC.

 

[FerrisRox]

minten isn't a blue chip prospect lol

he was tracking alright to become a decent 3C

cowan is a better prospect and he is not a blue chip either

He's talking about the Laughton trade, so he's not calling Minten a blue chip prospect, he's saying Grebenkin is blue chip prospect.

Seems pretty clear all of his posts are just trying to bait people.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

His stats are impressive no doubt. But Vezina candidates play only 23 games?

...only when they play in Toronto...otherwise, they are known as backups...

 

[I Just Like]

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Anthony Stolarz is literally 2nd in GAA and SVP LOL, cope harder buddy

Woll has been great too

You just keep making yourself look clueless by doubling down on this garbage take that goaltending is an issue. Piece of advice, try watching the players you're commenting about.

Keep crying though, salty tears are delicious

Thanks for the laugh though

There is literally nothing salty about it. I LIKE 90% of your roster and have no issues with the Leafs at all. If I were a Leafs fan I would not be trusting my goaltending, or rather I should say I would be concerned and nervous about it - heading into the postseason where most other things are looking good. As I said - I wouldn’t give Shesterkin his contract 100/100 times so I understand the right goalie behind the right team at the right time. I still have no faith in Anthony Stolarz backstopping an SC winner right now.