Rumor: TOR and John Tavares close to a deal: 3 years at 7 million

[BraveCanadian]

7 million?? lol noooooo

 

[Racer88]

WHAT…….is he nuts……..

I would put the odds of the Leafs signing Tavares and Marner at something higher than 100%.

Ya, why not run the whole stinking mess back for another decade

 

[Racer88]

We should have an HF Festivus. It would be a bloodbath for the mods.

Just one day of a free for all……..I could get a few things off my chest. Lol

Remember when MLSE had those plastic talking heads at the beginning of the season try to convince their fans that "big changes were coming" and, "we don't just want to sell jerseys"?

Remember that?

Remember how many of believed them? lol.

Nothing against JT but this team won't be making changes any time soon.

That was total sales pitch BS

 

[francis246]

Another day, another slap in the face.

When has Dave Pagniontta ever been right? The guy is always on some bullshit

 

[Racer88]

60 point players will cost 7m with the cap going up

Just a reality

Maybe with that 7 million we could get a player that can help us win a cup…..in the playoffs.
How much more evidence do we need to prove this crappy core 5 cannot get it done.
My God sooner or later they have to wake up

 

[TMLAM34]

I wouldn’t re-sign either JT or Marner until after the playoffs. If we get eliminated yet again in round 1, why keep running the same core year after year and expect different results.

 

[GQS]

I wouldn’t re-sign either JT or Marner until after the playoffs. If we get eliminated yet again in round 1, why keep running the same core year after year and expect different results.

I agree. I don't get why we need to re-sign guys before end of season unless we definitely want them to come back no matter what. I'm not opposed to having Tavares return, but I wish it would be at 5 million or lower and have him do the Leafs a small favor.

The more this team needs a major shake up, the more it seems like we're going to only get cosmetic changes at best and as a result we'll probably continuing getting the same results in the playoffs.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Run it back! Because why not

 

[kevsh]

I don't know if this reporting is true or not but it's been absolutely clear all along that MLSE is all-in on this core.

They did not wait last year for the playoffs to get Willie or AM signed, and they aren't waiting until the playoffs this year for JT or Mitch. It is, and always has been wishful thinking from fans that this organization is going to move on from this group if they keep failing. They haven't and they won't.

Aside from all that, earlier in the season I would've said 3x7 is pretty fair but I'm having second thoughts. I Like JT, he does bring a lot to the team but it feels to me like he's this close to dropping off a cliff contribution-wise, as in likely before the new deal's first year is done.

And of course, if this group flops again this year and have the Big 4 already extended, I mean, what is the point of even watching any more? 3+ more years minimum of first-round exits? I think Leaf Nation may just finally revolt.

 

[Commander Clueless]

13.16 x 8 Marner

7 X 3 Tavares

~45M out of 95.5M cap on big 4 = ~47%

~52.5M out of 95.5M cap on Big 4 + rielly = ~55%

Einstein did say the definition of insanity is to do the same things over and over and expect the same results, especially with the greatest core in league history.

Isn't that actually not an Einstein quote?

But it's sports, so insanity might just work!

But it's also the Leafs, and unfortunately the Leafs to maximum embarrassment ratio is an exact science.

 

[Commander Clueless]

I don't know if this reporting is true or not but it's been absolutely clear all along that MLSE is all-in on this core.

They did not wait last year for the playoffs to get Willie or AM signed, and they aren't waiting until the playoffs this year for JT or Mitch. It is, and always has been wishful thinking from fans that this organization is going to move on from this group if they keep failing. They haven't and they won't.

Aside from all that, earlier in the season I would've said 3x7 is pretty fair but I'm having second thoughts. I Like JT, he does bring a lot to the team but it feels to me like he's this close to dropping off a cliff contribution-wise, as in likely before the new deal's first year is done.

And of course, if this group flops again this year and have the Big 4 already extended, I mean, what is the point of even watching any more? 3+ more years minimum of first-round exits? I think Leaf Nation may just finally revolt.

We all knew Mitch wasn't leaving the second Shanny wasn't fired. I know some people hoped beyond hope, but if you search your feelings you knew it to be true. It's only a matter of how much he'll take.

Only way Mitch walks is if Mitch wants to. And it would be devastatingly bad asset management by the Leafs.

The tie in there was if Mitch takes the Leafs to the bank, how much is left for JT? $7M, while probably fair, still feels like a lot in the sense that despite the cap rising, it won't give us more wiggle room.

 

[Racer88]

We all knew Mitch wasn't leaving the second Shanny wasn't fired. I know some people hoped beyond hope, but if you search your feelings you knew it to be true. It's only a matter of how much he'll take.

Only way Mitch walks is if Mitch wants to. And it would be devastatingly bad asset management by the Leafs.

The tie in there was if Mitch takes the Leafs to the bank, how much is left for JT? $7M, while probably fair, still feels like a lot in the sense that despite the cap rising, it won't give us more wiggle room.

Yup the cap rising is meaningless if we keep giving it all to the loser core

 

[LeafEgo]

Isn't that actually not an Einstein quote?

But it's sports, so insanity might just work!

But it's also the Leafs, and unfortunately the Leafs to maximum embarrassment ratio is an exact science.

The most odd thing about this forum is the use of this quote. It's almost daily but the rest of the world stopped using it long ago - its like transporting back in time. And yeah, probably because it wasn't Einstein.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

We should have an HF Festivus. It would be a bloodbath for the mods.

I got a lotta problems with you people!

 

[Racer88]

The most odd thing about this forum is the use of this quote. It's almost daily but the rest of the world stopped using it long ago - its like transporting back in time. And yeah, probably because it wasn't Einstein.

We are running it back just like the Shanny clown show are running back the core

 

[Americanadian]

Why sign him today (or this month)? Is the price going up between now and July?

 

[horner]

13.16 x 8 Marner

7 X 3 Tavares

~45M out of 95.5M cap on big 4 = ~47%

~52.5M out of 95.5M cap on Big 4 + rielly = ~55%

Einstein did say the definition of insanity is to do the same things over and over and expect the same results, especially with the greatest core in league history.

Knies contract next yr

 

[horner]

13.16 x 8 Marner

7 X 3 Tavares

~45M out of 95.5M cap on big 4 = ~47%

~52.5M out of 95.5M cap on Big 4 + rielly = ~55%

Einstein did say the definition of insanity is to do the same things over and over and expect the same results, especially with the greatest core in league history.

If the 4 Nations have shown us anything that come the playoffs we don't have a dog in the fight
Our 3 stars don't get involved like other players finesse doesn't win you a cup.
I thought this tournament would bring something else in our 3 stars.
NOPE

 

[A1LeafNation]

After the last 7 years. This fraud owes us 7m per.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

I was fine with around 3.5 - 5. This is simply way too much.

 

[trellaine201]

Oh man that’s a tough number to swallow imo. I am one of the few that really like him. So many people hate on him in here for his skating etc blah. He is a true pro BUT $7M seems a bit steep. Oh well. It’s not my money.

 

[Torontonian]

Like it or not, the price seems to be right, but is disappointing he wouldn't look at the organization and leave money on the table. Toronto probably should have told him they were going to walk away if not.

Malkin making 6.1m for 4 years.
Giroux 6.5m for 3 years
Pelvelski 7m for 3 years.

Etc..

 

[JSn0w93]

7 million is a little rich for me, but it is what it is. I fear he won't be as good as he is this year even leading into next season.

 

[capfit9]

Absurdity, management have lost their minds

 

[AlienWorkShop]

60 point players will cost 7m with the cap going up

Just a reality

24-25: $7m is 7.95% of an $88m cap
25-26: $7m is 7.33% of a $95.5m cap ($6.45m equivalent today)
26-27: $7m is 6.73% of a $104m cap ($5.92m equivalent today)
27-28: $7m is 6.17% of a $113.5m cap ($5.43m equivalent today)

Looking forward to some fans being mystified by every UFA contract this offseason haha, but will certainly be an adjustment...

(note I post this without commenting on us 'running it back' haha. And I agree with posters querying whether, say, 4x5.5m could work instead)