Confirmed Trade: [TOR/ANA] Bernier to Anaheim for conditional 2017 pick

[Pyrophorus]

I preferred giving Bernier another year to finish. If he sucks then we pick up someone next offseason. If not and he returns to his end of season form or his first year here form then we're good.

I feel like this is just Lou shuffling chairs on the titanic and hoping it doesn't sink next year. I'm not sold on Bernier + 1st + 2nd for Andersen + conditional pick and a big extension...

He did say he was going to change 50% of the roster. It is needed and I thought by many of our fellow fans wanted.

 

[Celly Hard]

Condon has more experience than Sparks, and yes he just put up an awful .900 save% but keep in mind he played 55 games in his rookie season, in Montreal nonetheless. Not too many rookie goalies in the history of NHL had to deal with something like that.

Give him 10-20 games a season and he'll do just fine.

no thanks Id rather have toskala back then throw condon between the pipes.

 

[SprDaVE]

Leafs aren't trading a mid round pick for a back up goaltender...

If they make a trade, it'll be for one of the depth forwards, basically contract for contract.

Aside from that, I think they'll just sign Ramo.

 

[go4hockey]

Bernier's value in this thread has sky rocketed since he is no longer a leaf....

His value hasn't changed its more the chance for success has gone up.

 

[RoadWarrior]

His value hasn't changed its more the chance for success has gone up.

NOT. Carlyle is the new coach LOL.

 

[Canada4Gold]

He wouldn't be my choice but I don't see much else out there. And seeing what Edmonton gave up for Larsson, I'm not sure that trading is a solution either.

The thing is we don't absolutely need a minor upgrade for next year since we're going to be bottom 10 anyway. If we could get a minor upgrade that didn't hurt us in the long run then sure but Russell and is a 3rd pairing guy asking for 2nd pairing money.

Say no to Russell and just go with what we have. If in a year or 2 we're still in need look for something then.

The Oilers absolutely needed to fix their D, they should have been coming out of the rebuild 3 or 4 years ago. Another year of the status quo would not fly. We don't have that issue here yet, we just bottom out.

 

[TheKingSlayer]

Milan Michalek for Pavelec and a mid pick. Done deal!

 

[LV*]

Bernier is a good goalie who will do well in Anaheim and everyone on HF will laugh at the Leafs. I don't think Andersen is THAT much better than Bernie.

Goalies I'd look at in UFA: Scrivens/Ramo/Khudobin at 1yr 1-1.6M or Enroth at 2y 1.5-2M.

Or pick up Reto Berra off waivers from FLA for free.

 

[trellaine201]

Good deal for Anaheim. One year of him for $2.15M.

 

[uncleben]

I'll give you Condon for a 3rd or 4th

I don't see Condon as much of an upgrade over Sparks.
And for all we know Bernier was traded for a 3/4.



It makes more sense to sign a UFA G, then trade for one.

Remaining UFA G include:
Dan Ellis, Jason LaBarbera, Ray Emery, Cedrick Desjardins, Mikko Koskinen, Yann Danis, Ben Scrivens, Jhonas Enroth, Niklas Lundstrom, Tom McCollum, Roman Will, Sami Aittokallio, Drew MacIntyre, Kevin Poulin, Joni Ortio, Karri Ramo, Jonas Hiller, Andrey Makarov, Nathan Lieuwen, Niklas Treutle, Anders Lindback.

You've got to imagine they're looking at Enroth.
Maybe Lindback. Ramo, Scrivens lower possibilities in my imagination.
McCollum is intriguing to me, but he doesn't exactly fit what we are looking for.
Would welcome McIntyre back. I was just a fan of him before, is all.

 

[syc]

Bad trade Leafs, he could be decent this year and you could've gotten a real draft pick at the deadline.

Instead you trade him for nothing and go with sparks as the backup?

Worst trade leafs have done in two years.

 

[Pyrophorus]

toronto:where goalies go to die

Maybe we'll have one who can win in MTL
You should be saddened.

 

[Vipers31]

After his AHL stint, Bernier was given another shot (albeit on a shorter leash) and he blew it again. Bernier was a mess.

He was a mess with a .920 SV% since January on an atrocious team. I'm okay with that kind of mess.

 

[uncleben]

Bad trade Leafs, he could be decent this year and you could've gotten a real draft pick at the deadline.

Instead you trade him for nothing and go with sparks as the backup?

Worst trade leafs have done in two years.

"Worst trade" is a little dramatic.
But there are those of us here who do feel it was unnecessary, yes.

I would've preferred to play him as our number 2, and if a good deal arises, trade him later.

 

[Tecumseh]

NOT. Carlyle is the new coach LOL.

Anaheim has the much best roster and defense. As much as I dislike the Carlyle hire, that does not make them a worse team than Toronto

 

[colchar]

Bad trade Leafs, he could be decent this year

Based on what, wishful thinking?

Instead you trade him for nothing and go with sparks as the backup?

You know the seasons doesn't start tomorrow right? They have plenty of time to sign, or perhaps trade for, a backup.

Worst trade leafs have done in two years.

You mean other than the fact that they got rid of a goalie who the coach obviously didn't trust as well as freed up cap room?

 

[The Examiner]

He was a mess with a .920 SV% since January on an atrocious team. I'm okay with that kind of mess.

SV% is irrelevant when you give up a weak, early (and some late) goal that deflates your already offensively challenged, young team. Stop reading the boxscores and maybe get a clue of the negative impact his mental weakness has on a team during, you know, an actually game and not on a piece of paper.

 

[Vipers31]

SV% is irrelevant when you give a weak, early (and some late) goal that deflates your already offensively challenged, young team. Stop reading the boxscores and maybe get a clue of the negative impact his mental weakness has on a team during, you know, an actually game and not on a piece of paper.

I watch plenty, and as a goalie, I think I have a fair sense of understanding what good and bad goals do, and which are which. And what you and many other Leafs fans are selling is a bunch of stories to fit your narrative, nothing more. It's not new to me that people are terrible at evaluating goalies, but this is taking things to almost new levels.

 

[seanlinden]

Should have just made it one big trade with Andersen

Likely considered all along, but Bernier had a $2m bonus to be paid on July 1.

Leafs paying that a big part of this deal.

 

[Darz]

Worst trade leafs have done in two years.

without knowing what the leafs got in return, how can you say that?

 

[Wats]

Making space for Russell?

 

[RomanianLeafs]

man i really wanted Bernier to be our goalie for many years but he's not number 1 material sadly..but i think he can be a very good back up for Gibson

 

[Funk21]

Bad trade Leafs, he could be decent this year and you could've gotten a real draft pick at the deadline.

Instead you trade him for nothing and go with sparks as the backup?

Worst trade leafs have done in two years.

So we gained 4.1 million in cap space, got rid of remaining Burke/Nonis dead weight, prevented a distraction from what should be an exciting year because we all know Bernier would wine and cry about how he should be the starter.

Did we get much for him? No but at most we would have gotten is maybe a thrid. I suspect the difference will not be far off.

Lastly if we decide to go with sparks we likely secure another top 5 pick

 

[Divine]

Bernier had a cap hit of 4.15M and is a pending UFA, so anything was a great deal for him. He was going to walk as a UFA anyway... unless Anaheim wants to pay him 4M+ next summer, this is basically a rental.

 

[The Examiner]

I watch plenty, and as a goalie, I think I have a fair sense of understanding what good and bad goals do, and which are which. And what you and many other Leafs fans are selling is a bunch of stories to fit your narrative, nothing more. It's not new to me that people are terrible at evaluating goalies, but this is taking things to almost new levels.

Naw, he was a mess. You clearly haven't watched him play and have no clue about the Leafs.

I really wanted him to succeed and after his AHL stint (he had 3 shutouts in a row), I thought he would get some confidence back. Alas, he blew it again. So much so that Babcock treated him like a red-headed step child and didn't even acknowledge him when he pulled him, after, yet, another mental breakdown. Bernier was the Ted Cruz of the NHL- a mess.