Top 5 “can’t win with ‘em” players

[Oscar The Grouch]

Matthews is #1.

 

[jetsforever]

I don't think there's anyone that you "can't win with" except maybe guys whose cap hit is so large relative to their skill that other good players can't be signed.

 

[Wry n Ginger]

How has Bo Horvat not been mentioned yet?

Dude is not someone you win with.

 

[rea]

How has Bo Horvat not been mentioned yet?

Dude is not someone you win with.

I actually disagree. He was a winner in Jr's. He's made the playoffs a handful of times, and he didn't do bad when he was there. The lack of making the playoffs isn't on one player, and the vancouver teams he lead were not well rounded teams, nor well coached, or well put together for that matter. Besides his contract demands, he's someone I'd want on my team in crunch time. Just my opinion

 

[Duder54]

In no particular order:

- A. Matthews
- A. Panarin
- M. Marner
- P. Laine
- J. Gaudreau
- P.L. Dubois
- K. Fiala
- J. Huberdeau
- D. Pasternak
- J. Skinner

All come to mind, but I'm sure there's more.

 

[voyageur]

1. Matthews
2. Dubois, because Torts actually got a series win head to head with him against Matthews
3. Jeff Skinner
4. Huberdeau
5. Ehlers

 

[FrozenJagrt]

Having watched people say for years that you can't win with Phil Kessel, I think this is a ridiculous thread.

 

[Panteras]

Huberdeau

 

[A1LeafNation]

They all can't do it...until they do.

 

[PocketNines]

Ah, so the question is who are the Keith Tkachukiest?

 

[chris kontos]

pld
fiala
blakes trying to corner the market?

 

[TheGroceryStick]

1. Toronto
2. Maple
3. Leafs
4. Entire
5.Roster

 

[DapperCam]

Doesn't Jeff Skinner own the all time record for regular season games played without playing in a playoff game? All of this with being a first line player the majority of his career...

I think it has to be him.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Martin Rucinsky has a lower plus/minus than he has total playoff points.
Mike Stapleton has a career playoff points-per-game of 0.03

I'd take Thonrton and Matthews ove either of them AINEC. lol

 

[PettersonHughes]

Agreed with the usual suspects -- PLD, Laine, anyone with the Maple Leafs crest on their jersey (hello Boston my old friend...). Also wonder if Hronek will soon get into that territory, when he gets his payday but doesn't show that he could be that guy even if he's paid like it.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

Trouba
Lindgren
Zibanejad
Kakko
Wennberg

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

Hoffman
Thornton
Marleau
Carey Price
Auston matthews

Couldn't make it any more obvious you've never watched the Habs.

Former
Joe Thorton
Joe Thornthron
Joe Thortnon
Joe Thorononton
Joe Thornton

Joe Toronto

 

[Grifter3511]

In honor of Mike Singletary’s epic rant, who are the top 5 guys you think you simply can’t win with in the playoffs?

It’s a bit different than worst contract or worst player- we’re looking for highly paid players in big roles who disappear.

For me:

1) Marner. Don’t believe in him come crunch time.
2) PLD. I wouldn’t trust him in big regular season games either.
3) Zibby/Panarin. 2 players.c 1 big disappointment.
4) Nurse. Dude is nervous and bad in playoffs. He’s lower because you can theoretically shelter him, whereas no one is gonna step up to fill offensive roles.
5) Petersson. Feels like he could turn around and be better.

Feels like I’m forgetting some forgettable performances, but lemme know what you think.

PS- and we shall not mention Jumbo. He didn’t fail the playoffs, the playoffs failed him.

So I'm assuming your criteria is 'must have been bad in 1 playoff season?'

 

[Grifter3511]

Martin Rucinsky has a lower plus/minus than he has total playoff points.
Mike Stapleton has a career playoff points-per-game of 0.03

I'd take Thonrton and Matthews ove either of them AINEC. lol

Lol. I had to look him up to properly understand what you meant. I was like,, 'lower +/- than points? So if he has say 30 pts he's at best +29?' But upon looking him up I see you mean his minus (-17) is higher than his points (14).

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Jack Eichel
Nazem Kadri
Phil Kessel

 

[Preposterone]

In no particular order:
Laine
J. Skinner
Dubois
Barzal
Reilly

Totally agree on barzal. He’s clearly incredibly competitive, but equally arrogant, in the sense that he believes that having the puck on his stick gives his team the chance to win almost 100% of the time. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy so willing to carry the rock and pump shots at the net when it just isn’t working

 

[Sports2]

Jamie Benn is up there.

 

[nowhereman]

Phil Kessel. Oh, wait...

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

1. Duchene
2. Hall
3. Marner
4. Gaudreau
5. Huberdeau
6. Ehlers
7. Duclair
8. Kakko
9. Fiala
10. Barzal

 

[behemolari]

In no particular order:
Laine
J. Skinner
Dubois
Barzal
Reilly

Laine has significant role winning Liiga and WHJC