Player Discussion Tony DeAngelo: Part IV
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offdacrossbar
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i don't think the last 30 or so games last year was an outlier. thats the real ADA production wise.
i think ADA will pick right up where he left off last year and play that same way. his 5v5 team leading +6 and his outstanding offensive zone numbers were all legit. PP time is where I'm concerned with all 3 RHD all warranting PP1 and 2 time. fox complicates things some what. trouba will be the gunner on the PP1 and get the bulk if the PP time. ADA should be the PP2 guy. well see.
ADA will be somewhere around 45-50 points this year and he will get his deal next year.
i think ADA will pick right up where he left off last year and play that same way. his 5v5 team leading +6 and his outstanding offensive zone numbers were all legit. PP time is where I'm concerned with all 3 RHD all warranting PP1 and 2 time. fox complicates things some what. trouba will be the gunner on the PP1 and get the bulk if the PP time. ADA should be the PP2 guy. well see.
ADA will be somewhere around 45-50 points this year and he will get his deal next year.
offdacrossbar
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pretty much what many here were saying.
business. waiting. no reason to sign right away. take your time, listen to your agent and stay in shape.
capice ??
45-50 points, based on last year's scoring, would put him 13th-20th in defenseman scoring. You think he can do that without getting PP1 time, and likely splitting time on the PP with Fox? A third of his points last year were on the PP. 45-50 points seems...ambitious, for a guy who isn't on your top pair and who doesn't get much time on the PP1. The only guys in the 45-50 point range who didn't record a bunch of PP points were Seth Jones, who played 26 minutes per night, and McDonagh, who played on a historically good team that scored like crazy.
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offdacrossbar
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45 points is realistic if he continues to get reg minutes for the entire season and. of course, stays healthy.
i think adam fox will tire and play less pp minutes of the 3.
ADA will be a productive pp guy again but his 5v5 scoring will improve with his ability to join the play and benefit from working with panarin, kravtsov and kakko.
40-50 points is what i am expecting with something like 10-35
I think he gets 20 minutes a night, some PP time, and goes like 7-31-38 or something. I don't expect him to produce like a top-20 defenseman if he's on the second pair and not getting the prime PP minutes.
We don't have any idea if Kravtsov will make any kind of impact this year, and while Panarin, Kakko, and Trouba should be helpful, I'm not really sure the team as a whole lot better offensively than it was last year. I don't know if anyone is going to see much of an improvement 5v5. Right now we look--to me--like a defensively challenged team with some upside upfront that should have a good PP. So if you're on the PP--points to be had!--but if you're not getting a lot of time there, it's up to even strength play where we'll struggle.
Time will tell, I guess.
romba
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Sounds to me like Tony knew the Rangers cap situation and was holding out really to let them know he's going to want his when the time eventually comes so make sure you have the cap space then, and also juuuuust in case someone offer-sheeted him a nicer contract.
His candor discussing it is refreshing.
His candor discussing it is refreshing.
Machinehead
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We were always good and you should have gotten more but being an RFA sucks.
Rempe73
RIP King of Pop
I guess, but we’re gonna need as many players as possible to take team-friendly deals.
Matt Rentfree
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College guys almost always do in their first year. The change in the amount of games played/season is pretty drastic.
Hire Sather
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He had no options and there was really no reason to miss any of camp.
Whatever, he still signed soon enough.
Whatever, he still signed soon enough.
I don't think he contradicts himself at all...here is the full quote
NY Rangers: Tony DeAngelo is glad to 'put everything else behind' after contract holdout
the cap situation is what it is hence the waiting...obviously he was waiting hoping that something would change. his agent also sees the same stuff we do about the rangers trying to trade salaries so he was waiting in hopes that a deal would come and free up more space, it didn't so it is what it is. obviously his agent should have told him to take a deal a few days earlier to not miss camp but I think what he said is the common sense theory of what happened
JCProdigy
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I would have preferred he signed early and didn't miss any of camp but I can understand the likely play his agent was taking. In my ignorant opinion, I wouldn't be surprised if his agent wanted him to hold out for another week (or more) but Tony got cold feet and just wanted to play hockey.
No options to start but things are fluid and guys get hurt all the time which can change the landscape pretty fast. Here in New York, you don't even have to go out of the way to find a team who, very early in their "training camp" were down their #1 ace starter and primary set up man. Two weeks into the regular season they were down their starting 3rd baseman, shortstop and left fielder. Another team is down their franchise QB which has totally derailed their season. Yet another is down their all-pro RB and had their top 2 receivers basically unavailable for the whole of the season so far. Landscapes sometimes change and therefore so do opportunities.
All in all, it was just a bunch of nothing, as it is most of the time with RFA holdouts.
No options to start but things are fluid and guys get hurt all the time which can change the landscape pretty fast. Here in New York, you don't even have to go out of the way to find a team who, very early in their "training camp" were down their #1 ace starter and primary set up man. Two weeks into the regular season they were down their starting 3rd baseman, shortstop and left fielder. Another team is down their franchise QB which has totally derailed their season. Yet another is down their all-pro RB and had their top 2 receivers basically unavailable for the whole of the season so far. Landscapes sometimes change and therefore so do opportunities.
All in all, it was just a bunch of nothing, as it is most of the time with RFA holdouts.
The Crypto Guy
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Great article, he said all the right things and looks very focused. He's going to have a hell of a year and get paid next season.
Crease
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Tony definitely saying all the right things so far, which is great to see.
offdacrossbar
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hes an intelligent guy. well spoken and thoughtful. the jersey accent is misleading.
sounds to me like hes focused on the right things. the past is the past. love that he said he expects to pick right up where he left off and then some. love the confidence.
i expect him to play well if given the chance.
and i expect Quinn to give that chance.
sounds to me like hes focused on the right things. the past is the past. love that he said he expects to pick right up where he left off and then some. love the confidence.
i expect him to play well if given the chance.
and i expect Quinn to give that chance.
Quinn's whole thing is earning your chances, through whatever system he uses of determining who earns what. He's not just going to give chances if they're not earned. I would expect Tony to put the stupid shit behind him and earn the chance to have a big year.
will1066
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He's going to be such a wonderful troll on opponents this year.
Rongomania
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Rempe73
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Thirty One
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Hope he starts taking out his mouthpiece and setting it in his glove between whistles Sean Avery style.
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