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Player Discussion Tony DeAngelo: Part IV

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True Blue said:
Two smallish puck movers, including one who is playing on his off side is not a good recipe, IMO. They get killed along the boards and do not emerge from the corners with the puck. Plus the front of the net becomes an issue. Sure once they have the puck, they are great. But retrieving it against a team like the Blues or Colorado would be an issue.
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You might be right, but as I said, it never happened while they were together. They handled their time together better than any other pairing we've had in a long time.

For playoff hockey, I would much rather have those types of guys paired with the Troubas of the world as well. But the regular season is a different beast, and if we can score more goals than the other team in one game, that is more important than who slams who into the boards more often. And ADA-Fox would outscore opponents like it was what they were born to do.

edit - and really, if there are two or three teams in the league that may be able to exploit them as a pairing, why would we not let them dominate against the other 28 or 29?
 
Harbour Dog said:
You might be right, but as I said, it never happened while they were together. They handled their time together better than any other pairing we've had in a long time.
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That was against the Devils. Wasn't Fox paired with Lindgren again for the Isles?
For playoff hockey, I would much rather have those types of guys paired with the Troubas of the world as well. But the regular season is a different beast, and if we can score more goals than the other team in one game, that is more important than who slams who into the boards more often. And ADA-Fox would outscore opponents like it was what they were born to do.
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I get where you are coming from. I just like my defensive pairs to get chemistry and know what the other one is doing. Look at the Fox-Lindgren pairing. They look excellent together and part of that is the chemistry built by playing together
edit - and really, if there are two or three teams in the league that may be able to exploit them as a pairing, why would we not let them dominate against the other 28 or 29?
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I am afraid that it is a lot more than just two or three teams.
 
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ADA-Fox has never been paired for a whole game, they get spot duty after PKs, some offensive situations, 4v4 and when we are trailing - with insane results.

These results would not transfer 1:1 if they had to play in all types of situations, but considering how well they have done in their time together it would be interesting to see how it would translate to more minutes.

This is their 5v5 results so far this year:
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LMAO @ the latest Blueshirt Banter episode
They said Panarin's 5pt game was more impressive than DeAngelo's, multiple forwards have 5pt games every season, DeAngelo is the first NHL dman in 20 years to have 3g 5p+ in a game.
Also said "With his success this year, this is great, but you're really making it hard to keep you around." lmao again with this moving ADA bs. One of their writers went on a twitter tirade that made it abundantly clear why he hates him so much too, and surprise surprise it has nothing to do with hockey
 
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EdJovanovski said:
LMAO @ the latest Blueshirt Banter episode
They said Panarin's 5pt game was more impressive than DeAngelo's, multiple forwards have 5pt games every season, DeAngelo is the first NHL dman in 20 years to have 3g 5p+ in a game.
Also said "With his success this year, this is great, but you're really making it hard to keep you around." lmao again with this moving ADA bs. One of their writers went on a twitter tirade that made it abundantly clear why he hates him so much too, and surprise surprise it has nothing to do with hockey
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Maybe we can give you your own OT: Grievance thread.

Analytics, bloggers, anyone who questions anything about DeAngelo. You can get all of it out.
 
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EdJovanovski said:
LMAO @ the latest Blueshirt Banter episode
They said Panarin's 5pt game was more impressive than DeAngelo's, multiple forwards have 5pt games every season, DeAngelo is the first NHL dman in 20 years to have 3g 5p+ in a game.
Also said "With his success this year, this is great, but you're really making it hard to keep you around." lmao again with this moving ADA bs. One of their writers went on a twitter tirade that made it abundantly clear why he hates him so much too, and surprise surprise it has nothing to do with hockey
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That whole rant backfired and he had to issue a public apology hahahaha. It was amazing
 
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EdJovanovski said:
LMAO @ the latest Blueshirt Banter episode
They said Panarin's 5pt game was more impressive than DeAngelo's, multiple forwards have 5pt games every season, DeAngelo is the first NHL dman in 20 years to have 3g 5p+ in a game.
Also said "With his success this year, this is great, but you're really making it hard to keep you around." lmao again with this moving ADA bs. One of their writers went on a twitter tirade that made it abundantly clear why he hates him so much too, and surprise surprise it has nothing to do with hockey
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which guy on twitter? I want to read the tirade lol
 
EdJovanovski said:
LMAO @ the latest Blueshirt Banter episode
They said Panarin's 5pt game was more impressive than DeAngelo's, multiple forwards have 5pt games every season, DeAngelo is the first NHL dman in 20 years to have 3g 5p+ in a game.
Also said "With his success this year, this is great, but you're really making it hard to keep you around." lmao again with this moving ADA bs. One of their writers went on a twitter tirade that made it abundantly clear why he hates him so much too, and surprise surprise it has nothing to do with hockey
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listening to the podcast right now. to be fair saying that panarin's 5pt game was more impressive wasn't a knock on deangelo. it was a knock on the devils saying that they are such a joke that it isn't as hard to do against them lol
 
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Leetch3 said:
listening to the podcast right now. to be fair saying that panarin's 5pt game was more impressive wasn't a knock on deangelo. it was a knock on the devils saying that they are such a joke that it isn't as hard to do against them lol
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Regardless of how big of a joke the Devils are they just beat Washington & Tampa Bay and have been playing much better lately
The comments on this episode were less egregious on their own but given context that they talk about ADA’s “character issues” nearly every episode and how we need to get rid of him, it’s comical at this point
 
I couldn’t possibly disagree with TDA any more than I do on things unrelated to the game.

But he’s a hockey player and a ranger and he seems to be great in his capacity as both of those things. So, go Tony. Happy to have him here and happy he’s doing well.
 
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haveandare said:
I couldn’t possibly disagree with TDA any more than I do on things unrelated to the game.

But he’s a hockey player and a ranger and he seems to be great in his capacity as both of those things. So, go Tony. Happy to have him here and happy he’s doing well.
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Agreed on all fronts. My issue with him last year was it seemed his attitude was still getting in the way of his overall performance. We can only guess, but it sure looks like he's been able to check that at the door, act more professional, and it clearly putting it together this season.

That said, I'd be lying if I didn't admit my mind wandered to "getting the business from Tony DeAngelo" as one of the potential theories as to what was making Andersson uncomfortable. But that's just me being conspiratorial.
 
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EdJovanovski said:
LMAO @ the latest Blueshirt Banter episode
They said Panarin's 5pt game was more impressive than DeAngelo's, multiple forwards have 5pt games every season, DeAngelo is the first NHL dman in 20 years to have 3g 5p+ in a game.
Also said "With his success this year, this is great, but you're really making it hard to keep you around." lmao again with this moving ADA bs. One of their writers went on a twitter tirade that made it abundantly clear why he hates him so much too, and surprise surprise it has nothing to do with hockey
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DeAngelo should be resigned or sold for a fortune. Anything less than a fortune coming back in a trade is a mistake IMO so I would resign him. He’s having a great year.
 
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Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Agreed on all fronts. My issue with him last year was it seemed his attitude was still getting in the way of his overall performance. We can only guess, but it sure looks like he's been able to check that at the door, act more professional, and it clearly putting it together this season.

That said, I'd be lying if I didn't admit my mind wandered to "getting the business from Tony DeAngelo" as one of the potential theories as to what was making Andersson uncomfortable. But that's just me being conspiratorial.
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Yeah it seems like he’s part of the gang in the locker room and gets along with other key players in addition to just being a better pro.

I’d be surprised if Tony was giving Lias the business much. Mika and Lias are good buddies and it seems TDA is close with Mika too.
 
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I'm really going to be interested in what he asks for in the offseason assuming he continues to produce at at 65 point pace. Apparently Barrie, and I know he's a UFA, but he's looking for around 8M. Gotta think ADA is going to be around 6M at least.
 
The list of active defensemen who have gotten 50 points in a season (and Tony is pacing well above that) before the age of 25 is . . . very short and very good. Karlsson, Green, Rielly, Dougherty, Gotisbehere, Yandle, Klingberg, Phaneuf, Jones, Barrie, Trouba, Chabot, OEL, Pietrangelo, Subban, Hamilton, Dumba, and Letang. Guys you want on your team in their prime.

This is not hard. Extend DeAngelo.
 
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Would love to see Tony have a huge game at both ends of the ice tonight ....couple of quick goals and or set ups early !
 
Crease said:
The list of active defensemen who have gotten 50 points in a season (and Tony is pacing well above that) before the age of 25 is . . . very short and very good. Karlsson, Green, Rielly, Dougherty, Gotisbehere, Yandle, Klingberg, Phaneuf, Jones, Barrie, Trouba, Chabot, OEL, Pietrangelo, Subban, Hamilton, Dumba, and Letang. Guys you want on your team in their prime.

This is not hard. Extend DeAngelo.
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Yes, definitely. Like...I love Fox too and I want both of them, but you dont' sell on a 24 year old defenseman who's gonna put up 60+
 
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Levitate said:
Yes, definitely. Like...I love Fox too and I want both of them, but you dont' sell on a 24 year old defenseman who's gonna put up 60+
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Which is why I think that Trouba, DeAngelo, Fox & Lindgren are a part of the future core. And the rest will be filled out with more defensively grounded defensemen. Which means that some of the other prospects that some love so much will probably become trade bait one day.
 
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