Depends on how old you are on the Predators. Seniority rules.
Confirmed with Link: Tomasino to PIT for 2027 4th round pick via NYR
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Kat Predator
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If you're one of Barry's Untouchables, getting your pads on might peak out your effort for a night.
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I knew after seeing Bruno at that exit PC after last season that Tomasino was done. There would be no way he'd be able to read minds and do what he was supposed to do. Mostly because it sounded like a CYA smoke screen. Tomasino wasn't looked at highly and the coach was going to get rid of him one way or another.
So it's not surprising he's gone. Not at all.
But I still think he got an extremely raw deal here. As did we as fans. "We tried him everywhere" is just so obviously a joke.
He, like all the young guys, is expected to take the ice and in the course of 3 shifts at most take over a game like MacKinnon apparently. Who knows really. But whatever that mythical hero bar is that has been set, it's clear none of our prospects comes close to reaching it.
So just keep your elbow on the reset button while dozing off, Barry. We are the Sultans of Swing.
So it's not surprising he's gone. Not at all.
But I still think he got an extremely raw deal here. As did we as fans. "We tried him everywhere" is just so obviously a joke.
He, like all the young guys, is expected to take the ice and in the course of 3 shifts at most take over a game like MacKinnon apparently. Who knows really. But whatever that mythical hero bar is that has been set, it's clear none of our prospects comes close to reaching it.
So just keep your elbow on the reset button while dozing off, Barry. We are the Sultans of Swing.
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Damn the warpath is hot here. The same folks that blast me as being negitive.
Points brought up that have been true a long time. First this organization has never been good developing forwards or for that matter drafting them. 1st round picks have never fared well here long term, this is even more confusing that fans put so much value on 1st round picks.
Not sure what Trotz plan is but what he put on paper in this off season made sense until it didnt. As one looks at the roster long term the Askarov situation looks to be the one that will have the worst impact. Post Soros there is no plan.
Trotz tried the old Poile approach bandaid the roster but it fell off and the scab ripped off with it. The team has been due a rebuild for a few years now and everything points now to that's the only choice left. Never like Bruno as a player and as a coach yeah he is probably worse than Hynes and that is saying a lot. Moving the remains of this bleeding and choking horse will be the savior or death knell for Trotz. He does not need picks he needs players with potential that will mature in the next couple years up and down the roster.
I am biased when it comes to Stammer I would like to see Trotz call JBB in Tampa and do a deal like Stammer at 50% for Perbix a young defender that is developing well. Stammer could come home and start a defense rebuild with a young developed blue liner that does not gaff like Fabbro did. No idea what to do with ROR but his falloff has been glaring. March still has value but moving him will be a harder sell he has to have linemates.
1/4 way in the team is in a big hole nothing that a couple long winning streaks could not turn around but who thinks that is possible.
Arguing or pointing out young guys like Tomasino being moved is a waste of time , if he were more valuable he would have brought more. Now Tolvanen is another thing that was just a stupid loss. If you think about it it seems the focus is looking for top 6 guys for the future and the determination Tomasino was not it. Folks still butthurt about Fiala need to ask why he did not stick in Minnesota? He's always been a problem.
It will be interesting to have Trotz show his hand which way he is going to rebuild or owners firing him that could crest an even bigger problem. This is not going to be a two year thing now , this could well be 5 to 10 years.
Points brought up that have been true a long time. First this organization has never been good developing forwards or for that matter drafting them. 1st round picks have never fared well here long term, this is even more confusing that fans put so much value on 1st round picks.
Not sure what Trotz plan is but what he put on paper in this off season made sense until it didnt. As one looks at the roster long term the Askarov situation looks to be the one that will have the worst impact. Post Soros there is no plan.
Trotz tried the old Poile approach bandaid the roster but it fell off and the scab ripped off with it. The team has been due a rebuild for a few years now and everything points now to that's the only choice left. Never like Bruno as a player and as a coach yeah he is probably worse than Hynes and that is saying a lot. Moving the remains of this bleeding and choking horse will be the savior or death knell for Trotz. He does not need picks he needs players with potential that will mature in the next couple years up and down the roster.
I am biased when it comes to Stammer I would like to see Trotz call JBB in Tampa and do a deal like Stammer at 50% for Perbix a young defender that is developing well. Stammer could come home and start a defense rebuild with a young developed blue liner that does not gaff like Fabbro did. No idea what to do with ROR but his falloff has been glaring. March still has value but moving him will be a harder sell he has to have linemates.
1/4 way in the team is in a big hole nothing that a couple long winning streaks could not turn around but who thinks that is possible.
Arguing or pointing out young guys like Tomasino being moved is a waste of time , if he were more valuable he would have brought more. Now Tolvanen is another thing that was just a stupid loss. If you think about it it seems the focus is looking for top 6 guys for the future and the determination Tomasino was not it. Folks still butthurt about Fiala need to ask why he did not stick in Minnesota? He's always been a problem.
It will be interesting to have Trotz show his hand which way he is going to rebuild or owners firing him that could crest an even bigger problem. This is not going to be a two year thing now , this could well be 5 to 10 years.
I don't think people mind negativity here, it's more so that people get annoyed at Tampa/Buffalo/Vancouver/Nashville fans only showing up when things go bad for us.
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I won't lie, using our last retention slot so that Stamkos can run back home after 20 games, after we just traded a kid that could have been getting minutes in his stead...I thought my frustration with the org was already at capacity.
He wants to go home he can terminate his contract. We're not paying $4M a year so he can get carried to wins back in Tampa.
He wants to go home he can terminate his contract. We're not paying $4M a year so he can get carried to wins back in Tampa.
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This will only hurt more when Bruno is fired before Christmas and we lost the chance to give Fabbro and Tomasino a chance under the new guy.
Outside of trading away our draft picks, it's hard to imagine Trotz and Bruno taking a team in a worse direction in the last 12 months.
Outside of trading away our draft picks, it's hard to imagine Trotz and Bruno taking a team in a worse direction in the last 12 months.
And then it'll hurt even more when our new coach triumphantly rights the ship to within two points of the wildcard spot and directly into drafting 15th.
101st_fan
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Only showing up when things are negative and their first lines making the post about them rather than the Preds.
Kat Predator
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One thing to salve some of that possible sting: it looks like Trotz sees Bruno as a long term partner (like he was with Poile) and that they will have many, many seasons, starting with how to use the crayon sharpener in the back of the box, to figure it out and learn how to assemble a competitive hockey club.
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