Tomas Tatar

[Henkka]

He reminds me of Pavel Bure

Maybe, but without the Pavel Bure speed.

 

[NyquistIsMyGod*]

He reminds me of Maxim Afinogenov..

 

[Outl4w]

The 40 goal Afinogenov ;]

 

[Henkka]

He reminds me of Maxim Afinogenov..

Afinogenov had Bure-speed but no hands.

Either isn't comparable for Tatar, imo.

 

[NyquistIsMyGod*]

Afinogenov had Bure-speed but no hands.

Either isn't comparable for Tatar, imo.

Disagree. I think Afininogenov's hands were very underrated. My comparison was more of the line of controlling the puck, creating chances for themselves, but you always expected more with the finish. Of course Tats is more so a rookie.

 

[Henkka]

Disagree. I think Afininogenov's hands were very underrated. My comparison was more of the line of controlling the puck, creating chances for themselves, but you always expected more with the finish. Of course Tats is more so a rookie.

Yeah, but Afinogenov was mostly remembered of that blazing Helm-level speed. Hope that Darren would have Maxim's hands.

Tatar is more of "Grabovski" to me.

 

[Frk It]

Afinogenov had Bure-speed but no hands.

Either isn't comparable for Tatar, imo.

Yeah, Afinogenov most definitely did not have no hands. That's not true.

 

[Henkka]

Yeah, Afinogenov most definitely did not have no hands. That's not true.

Maybe I had wrong words. I meant that he had nice hands and great dekes, but average finishing ability. More "show" than goals, relatively. That's a bit "Tatar".

 

[Frk It]

Maybe I had wrong words. I meant that he had nice hands and great dekes, but average finishing ability. More "show" than goals, relatively. That's a bit "Tatar".

Oh, I see. That makes sense. Certainly was most known for his speed and skating, if that was what you meant.

 

[NyquistIsMyGod*]

Maybe I had wrong words. I meant that he had nice hands and great dekes, but average finishing ability. More "show" than goals, relatively. That's a bit "Tatar".

Hence my comparison to Tats right now. Some speed (Afinogenov had more), solid hands, offensively gifted, dangled, but the finish wasn't on par with everything else. Tats' finish should develop however.

 

[Frk It]

Hence my comparison to Tats right now. Some speed (Afinogenov had more), solid hands, offensively gifted, dangled, but the finish wasn't on par with everything else. Tats' finish should develop however.

He's certainly not as gritty, or an agitator type.

But I've always felt he's a little similar to Brad Marchand. Smaller, spark plug guy, that can finish and generate offense by himself.

 

[detredWINgs]

He's certainly not as gritty, or an agitator type.

But I've always felt he's a little similar to Brad Marchand. Smaller, spark plug guy, that can finish and generate offense by himself.

That description is why I always go back to the Steve Sullivan comparison, if folks still remember him (god, I feel old). He was small, feisty as hell, and you seemed to notice him every shift even if it didn't show up on the scoreboard. As small as Sullivan was, he always seemed to give the Wings trouble just because of his relentlessness.

 

[14ari13]

That description is why I always go back to the Steve Sullivan comparison, if folks still remember him (god, I feel old). He was small, feisty as hell, and you seemed to notice him every shift even if it didn't show up on the scoreboard. As small as Sullivan was, he always seemed to give the Wings trouble just because of his relentlessness.

How about Teo Fluery?
Tatar is quick, but not fast IMO.

 

[InjuredChoker]

afinogenov had the hands and legs but not the head. hockey sense always held him back. damn fun player to watch.

there are similarities between the two but not a perfect comparable imo.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Yeah, but Afinogenov was mostly remembered of that blazing Helm-level speed. Hope that Darren would have Maxim's hands.

Tatar is more of "Grabovski" to me.

Bingo.

 

[Winger98]

How about Teo Fluery?
Tatar is quick, but not fast IMO.

Fleury could fly when he was in his prime. Even later in his career when he slowed down a bit, he could still move. Built like a little tank, too. Little guy could level people.

I like the Sullivan comparison. Tatar makes me think a bit of Kozlov, too. Sneaky quick, goal scorer's instincts, a bit of unexpected grit.

 

[Anchor Town*]

Touche At least Tatar falls over because he's trying to make things happen.

You don't think Cleary tries to make things happen?

 

[TheOctopusKid]

This might be personal bias - being that the fact I grew up throughout the 90's and liken most of the modern players back to that generation of players...plus I adored this player

When I look at Tatar, I see Ziggy Palffy:
- Slovakian
- Similar build (~5'9 175lbs)
- Fiery and enthusiastic disposition with the tendency to throw up a nice passionate celebration following a goal
- Ability to score and finish
- Aggressive and attacking mentality
- Smooth, clever, and efficient dangler
- Quick and tenacious on offense but not particularly "fast" in top end speed

 

[ebis]

I always thought of Tats as this crazy, "party-first" type of guy (and the troubles he had with his neighbors seemed to confirm it) and that all the money he will be getting now would make it even worse, but after I read this, I have much respect for him.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/09/job_security_makes_red_wings_t.html

Tatar, who this summer signed a three-year contract extension worth $2.75 million per season, spent part of the offseason building a sports and fitness center for youngsters in Dubinca, Slovakia, where he was raised.

He's trying to fulfill a promise he made to his father, who died last January following a long illness.

"I promised my dad I would try and do something for the city where I grew up," said Tatar, 23. "That city gave me a chance to be a hockey player at this level so I feel like I owe the city something back. That's why I decided to build the sports center.

I wish there were more 23-year-olds like him...

 

[ap3x]

If you ask me, that story mentioned above was quite overvalued and led to jump into doubtful conclusions about his character.
To me, he's always been a decent lad and I'm not really surprised to hear about commitments like that. Good job, Tats.

 

[Mount Suribachi]

This might be personal bias - being that the fact I grew up throughout the 90's and liken most of the modern players back to that generation of players...plus I adored this player

When I look at Tatar, I see Ziggy Palffy:
- Slovakian
- Similar build (~5'9 175lbs)
- Fiery and enthusiastic disposition with the tendency to throw up a nice passionate celebration following a goal
- Ability to score and finish
- Aggressive and attacking mentality
- Smooth, clever, and efficient dangler
- Quick and tenacious on offense but not particularly "fast" in top end speed

If he could develop into a Palffy, I would be extremely happy. Prime Palffy was a star - a very good player on a very bad Isles team.

 

[Mount Suribachi]

You don't think Cleary tries to make things happen?

Depends if you count barely making the red line and then dumping the puck as "trying to make things happen"

 

[Frk It]

Tats is the man. He and Nyquist are just going to keep getting better and better.

Wasn't sure where to put this, but saw this Holland quote from the other day, and this is setting the bar pretty high for these two.

Red Wings GM Ken Holland said during the team’s prospect tournament in Traverse City last week that the Red Wings will be a contending team if two things happened. The first is if Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg combine for 140 games between them and the second is Gustav Nyquist and Tomas Tatar combining for 50 goals

Datsyuk and Zetterberg haven't combined for 50 since 09-10, so that's no easy task.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/p...e-season-money-grab-a-bad-omen-for-red-wings/

 

[joe89]

That isn't too far-fetched though, depending on opportunity. Tatar isn't scoring 25 goals on a line with Sheahan and Jurco unless he goes crazy on the PP.

I believe we need a lot more than that personally; Howard needs to be close to a top5 goalie and we need to either force one or two of the kids in on defense, or let things take its natural course(the waiver death dance if you will).

 

[Flowah]

That isn't too far-fetched though, depending on opportunity. Tatar isn't scoring 25 goals on a line with Sheahan and Jurco unless he goes crazy on the PP.

He put up 19 in 73 games, while spending a lot of that on the third line and sometimes even the fourth line. If he can play a full 82 games, I think 25 is well within reach. Even if he plays with Sheahan and Jurco for most of the year.