Value of: Tom Wilson

[Hockey 4 Life]

Nah. Both parties seem to be focused on another mid-long term contract for Wilson to finish up with the Caps. Next couple seasons he will be a top6 powerforward, following 2-3 years he will be leader and protecter of the young kids Caps start to rebuild into. Pretty clean plan.

Futures package would always come from a contending team and I dont think a late 1st + "decent" prospect kind of deal is worth to let him go. And I think Caps front office agrees.

Only way Wilson moves is a "hockey trade" where we get essentially better player back. That seems like something that wont make much sense for the other team. Unless Toronto wants to mix it up big time and trade Marner for us, or something like that, cant see this going down.

To get Marner for Wilson the add on Wilson would have to be the the top ten pick. I doubt Washington would want to do that nor do I think Toronto would do it either.

 

[AvroArrow]

Robertson has zero value.

lol not true.

 

[OV Rocks]

People on HFboards have no context to the value of Tom Wilson. Take Tanner Jeannot and multiply that return by 5.

Leaf's fans, the conversation is 1-for-1 Wilson for Matthews unsigned. Marner isn't a conversation and you have to add on Nylander.

The impact that Wilson brings is so incredibly different from those players that it would impact the structure of the entire Caps lineup

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Tom Wilson is exactly that Toronto needs but it would take an overpayment to get him.

Nylander for Wilson.

 

[darkwingduck]

Duck's 2nd (33ovr)+ and Silf (salary match)? Even tho he's only for one year, Tom Wilson would be a type of player I'd like next to Zegras.

 

[Eggtimer]

People on HFboards have no context to the value of Tom Wilson. Take Tanner Jeannot and multiply that return by 5.

Leaf's fans, the conversation is 1-for-1 Wilson for Matthews unsigned. Marner isn't a conversation and you have to add on Nylander.

The impact that Wilson brings is so incredibly different from those players that it would impact the structure of the entire Caps lineup

Whoa there tiger. I get that Wilson has high value and is a very rare type of player every team wants . But 5 x what Jeannot got ? Jeannot valje was so high due to comtrwxt control and cost. No dount Wilson is the better player but Jeannots contrwxt and abe drastically increased his value.
And Matthews plus Nylander for Wilson ?! Come on now. Wilson only has one year left as well.
I’m not crapping on Wilson . I agree that he is a very good player and would have a huge impact for a contender ,but I think you are stretchimg it a little bit on his value.

 

[Ovi895]

To get Marner for Wilson the add on Wilson would have to be the the top ten pick. I doubt Washington would want to do that nor do I think Toronto would do it either.

The add on is cap space and possibly some depth pieces, definitely not a top 10 pick

Last offseason when the Leafs got beat by Tampa I thought Marner for Wilson, Eller, Hathaway and Samsonov (before he went unqualified) would have been a win win

 

[Ovi895]

Rather some other team pay Wilson's retirement contract unless he comes at a substantial discount, caps don't really need to be getting into highly physical back and forths with Ovechkin, Backstrom, Oshie and Carlson being what they are at this point and the rest of the team consisting of more finesse than physical players

That said, he should fetch at least what Lucic did when he went to the Kings (mid 10 first, young #4/5 D level player, and a goalie worth a late first and good 4th liner) value wise. Lucic was probably overpaid for but Wilson is better now that Lucic was then and any team getting him would be coming with an extension

 

[WildWolfdog]

People on HFboards have no context to the value of Tom Wilson. Take Tanner Jeannot and multiply that return by 5.

Leaf's fans, the conversation is 1-for-1 Wilson for Matthews unsigned. Marner isn't a conversation and you have to add on Nylander.

The impact that Wilson brings is so incredibly different from those players that it would impact the structure of the entire Caps lineup

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ Wilson's value being close to Matthews, signed or otherwise.

And it's hilarious that you started the post with "people on HF have no context to the value"

 

[Dr John Carlson]

This Caps fan is more than happy to start a conversation about Wilson and Marner as a basis for a trade, unlike at least one other Caps fan I guess.

I doubt the Leafs would be happy about it though.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Not many players in the league like him. Likely going to cost more than b/c of that and that's ok. Brings a nice element of toughness with skill.

Would be interesting to see what he would actually go for

 

[KingsHockey24]

Arthur Kaliyev + Alex Iafallo + 2nd

 

[FSL KINGS]

Rather some other team pay Wilson's retirement contract unless he comes at a substantial discount, caps don't really need to be getting into highly physical back and forths with Ovechkin, Backstrom, Oshie and Carlson being what they are at this point and the rest of the team consisting of more finesse than physical players

That said, he should fetch at least what Lucic did when he went to the Kings (mid 10 first, young #4/5 D level player, and a goalie worth a late first and good 4th liner) value wise. Lucic was probably overpaid for but Wilson is better now that Lucic was then and any team getting him would be coming with an extension

That Lucic trade ended up being the final straw that got the King's GM fired.

Just for context.

 

[Thechozen1]

To get Marner for Wilson the add on Wilson would have to be the the top ten pick. I doubt Washington would want to do that nor do I think Toronto would do it either.

Maybe Toronto wouldn’t, but Wilson is the exact type of player they need in their top 6. Sure they’re giving up a younger highly skilled player, but come playoffs time, Wilson would be worth his weight in GOLD. Would add a completely different dimension to the LEAFs top 6

 

[Junohockeyfan]

lol not true.

3rd round pick or worse. He is close to being a permanent AHLer

 

[AvroArrow]

3rd round pick or worse. He is close to being a permanent AHLer

LOL BRUH you cannot be serious

Him getting 2 injuries does not make him a permanent AHLer or a 3rd round wtf ? He's 21 years old and was over PPG in the AHL, he's had injury trouble the last couple seasons, horrible take here.

 

[um]

To get Marner for Wilson the add on Wilson would have to be the the top ten pick. I doubt Washington would want to do that nor do I think Toronto would do it either.

I think people are underestimating how much Marner’s large cap hit will affect his value. How many teams will line up for an 11 million dollar winger with a terrible playoff reputation?

If you want 2 valuable assets like you’re asking for, you probably need to take on Cap coming back.

But maybe you’re right, who knows what Marner will or can get.

 

[Marner4Life]

Nylander for Wilson and a 2nd or prospect

 

[Ovi895]

That Lucic trade ended up being the final straw that got the King's GM fired.

Just for context.

If they were able to resign him and he aged better it would have been fine, he was dynamite that season and even good the following one for Edmonton.

Any team trading for Wilson would be looking to resign him and he's twice as mobile as Lucic was at the time of the trade, he's one of the best skating PFs in the league still

 

[Junohockeyfan]

LOL BRUH you cannot be serious

Him getting 2 injuries does not make him a permanent AHLer or a 3rd round wtf ? He's 21 years old and was over PPG in the AHL, he's had injury trouble the last couple seasons, horrible take here.

Combination of injuries and lack of production at the NHL level coupled with his age - turning 22 makes him no longer a prospect. No one is looking for a small, brittle, 22 year old (for 2023/2024) who has yet to crack an NHL lineup. He's played 31 games over 4 seasons with a measly 7 points. He's not an asset anymore. He's a good AHLer.

What exactly are you expecting to get in return for a good AHLer? You would be lucky to get a 3rd round pick. Why would anyone trade for him? This is Jeremy Braaco all over again.

 

[FSL KINGS]

If they were able to resign him and he aged better it would have been fine, he was dynamite that season and even good the following one for Edmonton.

Any team trading for Wilson would be looking to resign him and he's twice as mobile as Lucic was at the time of the trade, he's one of the best skating PFs in the league still

Effects of the trade, GM canned & trading 2 firsts to Boston with Conner, Barzal & Chabot on the board.

Re-signing Lucic & getting stuck with that contract like Edmonton would have been even worse.

That's the problem with Wilson. It's signing that next contract & hoping he doesn't turn into a healthy (non LTIR) 4th liner sucking up a good amount of cap. That's a lot of risk to pay a premium. Better be sure if you're the GM, because the trade could cost you your job.

 

[Smitty426]

People on HFboards have no context to the value of Tom Wilson. Take Tanner Jeannot and multiply that return by 5.

Leaf's fans, the conversation is 1-for-1 Wilson for Matthews unsigned. Marner isn't a conversation and you have to add on Nylander.

The impact that Wilson brings is so incredibly different from those players that it would impact the structure of the entire Caps lineup

Talk about people here not having context. You don't see the irony in your post, do you?

 

[lanceuppercut75]

This Caps fan is more than happy to start a conversation about Wilson and Marner as a basis for a trade, unlike at least one other Caps fan I guess.

I doubt the Leafs would be happy about it though

Leafs would counter-offer with something based around Marner and Ovechkin and the Capitals would hang up.

 

[aerovette99]

WIlson will retire a Capital. He has no desire to leave and the management has no desire to see him leave. He will sign a 5 or 6 year deal for approx 6 MIL

 

[StephenPeat]

Maybe Toronto wouldn’t, but Wilson is the exact type of player they need in their top 6. Sure they’re giving up a younger highly skilled player, but come playoffs time, Wilson would be worth his weight in GOLD. Would add a completely different dimension to the LEAFs top 6

No doubt Washington will not be adding a Top 10 Pick to Tom Wilson for any player in the League and certainly not a $10M Winger with a history of Playoff futility.

LOL BRUH you cannot be serious

Him getting 2 injuries does not make him a permanent AHLer or a 3rd round wtf ? He's 21 years old and was over PPG in the AHL, he's had injury trouble the last couple seasons, horrible take here.

His value is not close to a 1st to any team and I wouldn’t offer Washington’s 2nd either so where does that leave you?