Value of: Tom Wilson

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Nylander for Wilson and a 2nd or prospect
Nope not adding to Wilson for Nylander. The Capitals need to look to get drastically younger in any trade for Wilson and I’m not particularly enamored with Nylander nor do I think the Capitals would be in such a trade.
 

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Leafs would counter-offer with something based around Marner and Ovechkin and the Capitals would hang up.
No they wouldn’t. The Capitals would just move on as they should and not look back. No sweat off our back. We are not a Mitch Marner away from anything and I’m okay with that. We’ll keep Ovechkin and Wilson and you can keep losing. I am firmly convinced the Leafs will not be competitive with Marner, Nylander, Matthews, and Tavares. It’s not the Capitals (or any other teams) job to clean up the Leafs mistakes.

I’m just curious, has any player making over $10M ever won a Cup in the Salary Cap era?
 

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No they wouldn’t. The Capitals would just move on as they should and not look back. No sweat off our back. We are not a Mitch Marner away from anything and I’m okay with that. We’ll keep Ovechkin and Wilson and you can keep losing. I am firmly convinced the Leafs will not be competitive with Marner, Nylander, Matthews, and Tavares. It’s not the Capitals (or any other teams) job to clean up the Leafs mistakes.

I’m just curious, has any player making over $10M ever won a Cup in the Salary Cap era?
Who hurt you?
 

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No they wouldn’t. The Capitals would just move on as they should and not look back. No sweat off our back. We are not a Mitch Marner away from anything and I’m okay with that. We’ll keep Ovechkin and Wilson
Nothing I said contradicted that. If the Leafs ask for Ovechkin, the Capitals will say "no thanks" and hang up the phone.
 

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What happened to this guy? He used to injure everyone and now you never hear a peep from him anymore.
He did miss 50 Games of the season returning from injury.

Are you serious?

Nothing I said contradicted that. If the Leafs ask for Ovechkin, the Capitals will say "no thanks" and hang up the phone.
If the Leafs ask for Wilson the response will be the same.

Who hurt you?
I guess now that the seasons over you can spend all your time here on the boards. Pull up a chair, perhaps the same one you’ve been using for nearly the last century.
 
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He did miss 50 Games of the season returning from injury.

Are you serious?


If the Leafs ask for Wilson the response will be the same.


I guess now that the seasons over you can spend all your time here on the boards. Pull up a chair, perhaps the same one you’ve been using for nearly the last century.
He hasn't been himself in a couple years throwing those dirty hits all the time.
 

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One year left to UFA. I think the next two years are going to be tough in Washington.

I think the Caps would be looking for futures if Wilson were available.
LA fans wanted him so he could injure McDavid.
Wilson extended for that 2nd overall kid who isn't breaking out
 

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The Caps aren't trading Wilson. I have no doubt they will extend him for max term on his next contract. The player has said he wants to retire a Cap and the GM has said he wants him to retire a Cap.

Not sure why a new thread needs to be opened twice a month on Wilson but here we are.
 

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Rather some other team pay Wilson's retirement contract unless he comes at a substantial discount, caps don't really need to be getting into highly physical back and forths with Ovechkin, Backstrom, Oshie and Carlson being what they are at this point and the rest of the team consisting of more finesse than physical players

That said, he should fetch at least what Lucic did when he went to the Kings (mid 10 first, young #4/5 D level player, and a goalie worth a late first and good 4th liner) value wise. Lucic was probably overpaid for but Wilson is better now that Lucic was then and any team getting him would be coming with an extension

Wilson also three years older and coming off a season he could only play 33 games. I'm not sure if the "Wilson is better now than Lucic was then" statement is true. Lucic had scored 59 and 44 points and Wilson has scored 52 and 22 in the last two seasons.
 

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Tom Wilson is a unicorn who scored at a 30-goal clip after returning from injury. He’s going to sign a long-term deal and will be Washington’s next captain. The only way he’s traded is if he tells the Caps he won’t re-sign.

What happened to this guy? He used to injure everyone and now you never hear a peep from him anymore.
He plays hockey now. There are countless moments when you watch him that he could kill a guy but he doesn’t play that style any more. He’s still physical and hits like a truck but he’s been much smarter about it.
 

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Tom Wilson is a unicorn who scored at a 30-goal clip after returning from injury. He’s going to sign a long-term deal and will be Washington’s next captain. The only way he’s traded is if he tells the Caps he won’t re-sign.


He plays hockey now. There are countless moments when you watch him that he could kill a guy but he doesn’t play that style any more. He’s still physical and hits like a truck but he’s been much smarter about it.
It might seem high but it would not shock me to see Wilson finish next season with 35 goals and 40 assists. With all of the potential changes in Washington he could(should) see PP time. Plays the whole season with Strome and Ovechkin. Less PK time would be great.

I am standing on the cliff shouting, people don't realize how good he is and how high his value is.
 
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not sure Washington would trade him in-division but he'd be a dream on the Canes even if just as a rental. 23 & 24 first, or if you want someone closer then either of those firsts plus any prospect asside from Nikishin.

I second this. Hell I'd pay even more.

Not sure why it's important he retires on the Caps. I mean its not like he is Ovechkin. It wasn't important for even Toews to stay in Chicago...

And by the time the Caps are a factor again he'll be done with hockey, so in the division in theory shouldn't be that big a deal.
 

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Tom Wilson is a unicorn who scored at a 30-goal clip after returning from injury. He’s going to sign a long-term deal and will be Washington’s next captain. The only way he’s traded is if he tells the Caps he won’t re-sign.


He plays hockey now. There are countless moments when you watch him that he could kill a guy but he doesn’t play that style any more. He’s still physical and hits like a truck but he’s been much smarter about it.
a 30 goal clip is just that, and nothing more.
some players have awesome starts to the season and score a dozen goals in the first 6 weeks, than dont break 20 in total.
TW is a consistent 20 goal scorer and usually averages 40+ points over his career (his career 'average' in goals/season is under 17)
He is a physical beast, and i would guess every team would/should be interested, and many would overpay, but, lets not pretend he's more than he is offensively, because nobody is trading for his offensive prowess

Mind you, if the Leafs got him, he'd get suspended for skating too close to a guy in the playoffs. :D
 
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a 30 goal clip is just that, and nothing more.
some players have awesome starts to the season and score a dozen goals in the first 6 weeks, than dont break 20 in total.
TW is a consistent 20 goal scorer and usually averages 40+ points over his career (his career 'average' in goals/season is under 17)
He is a physical beast, and i would guess every team would/should be interested, and many would overpay, but, lets not pretend he's more than he is offensively, because nobody is trading for his offensive prowess

Mind you, if the Leafs got him, he'd get suspended for skating too close to a guy in the playoffs. :D
It was intended to counter the narrative that he may be a worse player after his injury. He looked good after he got his legs back.

And yeah, Tom is mainly a 20/20 guy but that’s without a lot of PP time. Oshie has historically taken the bumper spot and Wilson gets in there on PP2 or if Oshie is hurt. Only five of his points from this season were on the PP. He’d have more to give offensively if the opportunity was given itself.

What makes Wilson so unique is he can get you 40+ points a season and do everything else. He can hit, he can fight, he’s good on the PK, he can play with skill players or with north/south players, and he’s a great skater with a good shot. A team acquiring Wilson wouldn’t just be getting a 20 goal guy, they’d be getting a guy that will make them harder to play against.
 
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It was intended to counter the narrative that he may be a worse player after his injury. He looked good after he got his legs back.

And yeah, Tom is mainly a 20/20 guy but that’s without a lot of PP time. Oshie has historically taken the bumper spot and Wilson gets in there on PP2 or if Oshie is hurt. Only five of his points from this season were on the PP. He’d have more to give offensively if the opportunity was given itself.

What makes Wilson so unique is he can get you 40+ points a season and do everything else. He can hit, he can fight, he’s good on the PK, he can play with skill players or with north/south players, and he’s a great skater with a good shot. A team acquiring Wilson wouldn’t just be getting a 20 goal guy, they’d be getting a guy that will make them harder to play against.
I'd stick Wilson right in the goalie's face, and dare the defenders to try to move him ...that would easily open the lane for OV, more than he needs.
 

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I'd stick Wilson right in the goalie's face, and dare the defenders to try to move him ...that would easily open the lane for OV, more than he needs.
The “problem” is that Oshie is in that spot and he’s so good at what he does. Oshie probably is their best net front presence, he’s the best of the team at deflecting shots from the point, and his shot from the bumper shot is really effective. He’s also terrific at shielding the puck and keeping possession. And low mileage usage for Oshie who is getting up there in age and is breaking down frequently. I’d like to see Wilson there but I get why he’s not.
 
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I mean I think marner for Wilson plus is a fair trade.
 

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I mean I think marner for Wilson plus is a fair trade.
The Capitals should not be in the business of adding any $10M+ Players at any cost but certainly not Marner for Wilson. Guys like Wilson are underpaid and easily outplay their pay. Guys like Marner will perpetually fail to live up to the amount they are paid. Comparatively, as of today, Tom Wilson is fantastic ROI, Marner is not.
 

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The Capitals should not be in the business of adding any $10M+ Players at any cost but certainly not Marner for Wilson. Guys like Wilson are underpaid and easily outplay their pay. Guys like Marner will perpetually fail to live up to the amount they are paid. Comparatively, as of today, Tom Wilson is fantastic ROI, Marner is not.

For a deep cup run sure, for feeding Ovi and getting at least 2 home games of playoff gate revenue before you flip him at 50% next deadline probably no.

If Washington is earnestly competing for the cup instead of setting up a rebuild while Ovi keeps asses in seats more power to them.
 

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For a deep cup run sure, for feeding Ovi and getting at least 2 home games of playoff gate revenue before you flip him at 50% next deadline probably no.

If Washington is earnestly competing for the cup instead of setting up a rebuild while Ovi keeps asses in seats more power to them.
The Capitals could sign Two Dylan Stromes for less money than Mitch Marner is making to not get the Maple Leafs beyond the Second Round of the Playoffs and One Dylan Strome had 65 points feeing Ovi for a significant portion of this season.

Paying Mitch Marner $10M against the Cap impedes actual logical moves the Capitals could make to position themselves for the future, I comparatively have little to no interest in Mitch Marner factoring in how much Toronto would want to trade him and how much any team will have to pay him.
 

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Wilson has recently stated that he wants to be in DC, despite the retooling/inevitable rebuild
Our GM has publicly said he wants Wilson to retire a Cap and will do "everything we can to sign him"
The fans LOVE him in DC
It's basically an open secret that the organization wants him as the next captain once Ovi retires

Wilson isn't going anywhere unless another team makes the type of stupid overpayment deal that would get a GM fired
 

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