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Tom Wilson, 20 goals and counting

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Hidden Hair of Hynes said:
He is no different than any other big physical forward ala Reaves, Anderson, etc.

The difference in terms of totals is he plays with two of Washington’s and the Metro’s best players.

People trying to portray him as some unique talent whos ACTUALLY a top-6 player are off base. Hes a good third line forward whos size is good in the playoffs - no need to try and blow this up into anything more than that
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Sure they impact his totals, but that spot has been a revolving door basically 10 years, there were a number of players seen as better than Wilson who could not keep up as well as he did. And none of the others could in the playoffs.

He has his own ability the drive forcheck, he’s all over the ice all the time, backchecks equally hard; positionally he’s most always in a good spot regardless of who he’s with. Even when he played with Eller who has everything but finishing ability himself, they could at least hold the puck for good time in the offensive zone.
Effective in transition play and defending in the neutral zone as well, he is repsonsible for starting a good amount of rushes himself at convenient times

I’ll take Wilson over Reaves 100% of the time 1st, 2nd or 3rd line.
 
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Tom Wilson is not a good player and went on a PDO/shooting % bender for a few months. Now hes back to his old bad self.

Top 10 worst contracts in the league
 
pixiesfanyo said:
I disagree. Wilson is the type of player that has historically finished every hit to injure.

True stick work has been taken out of the game too.
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Focusing on the result was my point. He injured, so he must have intended it.

And tell that to Reaves, and Marchand and a number of players who still like to throw their stick around.
 
Bevans said:
Do you watch Columbus at all? Anderson is a top 6. He consistently plays top 6 mminutes.Occaisonally he plays the most minutes of any forward and he is a consistent pker. Very hot take.

Wilson and Anderson are poured from the same mould. Wilson is edgier and better at playing with elite players; Anderson is faster and better shooting at full speed.
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There’s no way for us to even say Wilson is better at playing with elite players until we see Anderson do it. Anderson already posts comparable results without an Ovechkin/Backstrom level player, I see no reason he couldn’t improve if he played with one of them.
 
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JoeThorntonsRooster said:
There’s no way for us to even say Wilson is better at playing with elite players until we see Anderson do it. Anderson already posts comparable results without an Ovechkin/Backstrom level player, I see no reason he couldn’t improve if he played with one of them.
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He hasn't played with them as consistently but he has had opportunities with guys like Panarin PLD and Atkinson.

I agree I'd like to see him get more time with better players. But I don't think it's controversial to say that alot of Anderson's goals are individual efforts.
 
pixiesfanyo said:
When you lead with your shoulder into straight ahead or into the blindside of someone’s head these types of things happen.
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You don’t think it’s possible to accidentally hit someone’s head? In a fast paced game?
A specific hit would be more helpful, or name of player.


Or for more broad context... who is Wilson, what does he mean to his team, who specifically is he hitting?

He’s a team player who won’t even fight, even tho he’s fully capable of handling himself, generally unless his team is comfortable up. He doesn’t want to take himself off the ice, he and coaches have said he needs to stop fighting cuz they want him on the ice, ditto minor penalties

Why would a guy who won’t spare 5 minutes intentionally target someone’s head in front of several cameras, and often on fairly insignificant players, no less. If he wanted to take himself off the ice 5minutes or multiple games in the playoffs shouldn’t he at least have targeted Letang or Crosby? Tarasenko? Giroux? Tavares? Or any of the better middle six guys between those top players and a lot of the guys actually he ends up hurting?

He’s certainly no better than reckless though, I’ll keep saying that.
 
If the dirty hits were completely unintentional and total accidents then we are left to wonder how he suddenly seems to be able to avoid laying those hits. At the very least he didn't give a shit about the players and so didn't care whether he was putting them in danger with his play. Maybe he didn't set out to try to injure but I'm not sure consistently acting recklessly enough to result in injuries is really any better or unintentional. If I routinely get hammered at a bar, drive home, and cause mayhem on the way, the mayhem itself might not be intentional but it is still the result of intentional actions and so I am still to blame for it.
 
Post Karl Malone said:
Fans of both teams would do really well to remember that they have to actually win 2 rounds first.

Caps fans best of all should know that.
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Tampa fans would do well to remember that they haven’t won anything yet and everyone starts the Playoffs with the Same Record. In order to win, they have to win MORE THAN those 2 ROUNDS and MORE THAN 1 MORE. If the Lightning are as insecure about the Caps as their fans in this thread indicates I’d say the Caps have nothing to worry about. In that matchup everyone would expect the Caps to lose and I’d say the Caps are probably happy about that too.
 
Chips said:
You don’t think it’s possible to accidentally hit someone’s head? In a fast paced game?
A specific hit would be more helpful, or name of player.


Or for more broad context... who is Wilson, what does he mean to his team, who specifically is he hitting?

He’s a team player who won’t even fight, even tho he’s fully capable of handling himself, generally unless his team is comfortable up. He doesn’t want to take himself off the ice, he and coaches have said he needs to stop fighting cuz they want him on the ice, ditto minor penalties

Why would a guy who won’t spare 5 minutes intentionally target someone’s head in front of several cameras, and often on fairly insignificant players, no less. If he wanted to take himself off the ice 5minutes or multiple games in the playoffs shouldn’t he at least have targeted Letang or Crosby? Tarasenko? Giroux? Tavares? Or any of the better middle six guys between those top players and a lot of the guys actually he ends up hurting?

He’s certainly no better than reckless though, I’ll keep saying that.
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The Sundqvist and Aston Reese hits were 100% unnecessary and he could have eased up and easily not been suspended.

He only needs to look at his team mate Oshie who is a truck and rarely if ever throws a hit that isn’t intended to knock people out.
 
StephenPeat said:
Tampa fans would do well to remember that they haven’t won anything yet and everyone starts the Playoffs with the Same Record. In order to win, they have to win MORE THAN those 2 ROUNDS and MORE THAN 1 MORE. If the Lightning are as insecure about the Caps as their fans in this thread indicates I’d say the Caps have nothing to worry about. In that matchup everyone would expect the Caps to lose and I’d say the Caps are probably happy about that too.
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Lol. Gotta get there first, bucko.

As I said, both teams are still going to have to win 2 rounds to back up all the d*** measuring.
 
StephenPeat said:
Tampa fans would do well to remember that they haven’t won anything yet and everyone starts the Playoffs with the Same Record. In order to win, they have to win MORE THAN those 2 ROUNDS and MORE THAN 1 MORE. If the Lightning are as insecure about the Caps as their fans in this thread indicates I’d say the Caps have nothing to worry about. In that matchup everyone would expect the Caps to lose and I’d say the Caps are probably happy about that too.
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Pot meet kettle.
 
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pixiesfanyo said:
The Sundqvist and Aston Reese hits were 100% unnecessary and he could have eased up and easily not been suspended.

He only needs to look at his team mate Oshie who is a truck and rarely if ever throws a hit that isn’t intended to knock people out.
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Unnecessary? How lame. That's like saying my team won 5 to 2 and goals 4 and 5 were unnecessary
 
TooManyHumans said:
If the dirty hits were completely unintentional and total accidents then we are left to wonder how he suddenly seems to be able to avoid laying those hits. At the very least he didn't give a **** about the players and so didn't care whether he was putting them in danger with his play. Maybe he didn't set out to try to injure but I'm not sure consistently acting recklessly enough to result in injuries is really any better or unintentional. If I routinely get hammered at a bar, drive home, and cause mayhem on the way, the mayhem itself might not be intentional but it is still the result of intentional actions and so I am still to blame for it.
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This may be the worst analogy I have seen yet.
 
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pixiesfanyo said:
He literally broke a player’s jaw less than a year ago and didn’t answer for it..

Also, are you really saying that Cooke purposefully injured Karlsson?
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And? That hit wasn't remotely dirty, it's the case of a larger man hitting a smaller man and the contact from the shoulder continued with the head afterwards. Complete hockey play, sometimes guys get hurt.

I don't think there's anyone out there that doesn't think Cooke didn't try to injure Karlson, please tell me you don't think he wasn't trying to...
 
Hidden Hair of Hynes said:
Go ahead and explain to me what context I missed when Wilson broke a Penguin’s jaw (forgot the poor mans name)
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Was that the one when he was heading to the bench, noticed a player was speeding up right along that bench, and decided right then quickly to step up and lay a big hit?

Context: “gonna hop off right n— oh big hit opportunity coming fast, momentum, gritty rah rah cliche *hits*”
That was a very fast play, not seeking him or a hit out initially, and the guy wasn’t paying attention who was in front of him as he skated to and along the boards where people tend to get hit. (edited after watching video again)

Risky fast choice from a team leader trying to keep his team into it and confident, poor execution, absolutely responsible for it. Reckless.

As was looking down or otherwise not paying attention to the direction in which you’re skating, especially when you’re around the boards. I never blame the victim overall for a hit happening in the first place and thus the result, but it seems the people getting hit are automatically absolved of their poor choices.
 
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