Todd Bertuzzi making the team reaction thread

[ResidentAlien*]

I'm also glad he's on the team...much easier to beat Team USA with him...literally.

Seriously though I'm glad he's on the team, and disappointed in the number of people that don't believe in second chances.

No doubt.
I was disgusted as the next guy when that whole thing happened, but talk about time to move on.
Seems to me that when a man makes a mistake, and pays for it,( Im not talking about how many games he missed, the mature ones here will know what Im talking about) he should be entitled to at least a second chance. That is a message every young person should learn. Maybe some of you are too young, not sure.
Seems like some folks here are letting their hatred get the best of them, nice message there dont ya think?

Bertuzzi deserves to be on the team.

 

[Daily Special]

Bertuzzi earned his spot.

That's debatable.

Brass tacks is he's a convict. A smear, an embarrassment, a black eye to the team.

 

[ResidentAlien*]

Maybe will be this easier for you to comprehend -

What would the COC do, step on Gretzky and cause a media frenzy surrounding their own team?

No, he'll probably just stay on like some unwanted house guest that no one had the courage to ask to leave, eventually stinking up the joint for half of the team following embarrassed by his presence.

Ya..cuz the coc is so above anything like that.
Gimme a break, they couldnt even put this off for one day and NOT leak this dribble the very day that that Phyllis Gretzky. the number one hockey Mom in the world was laid to rest.



Thank god for the ignore button

 

[wildone26*]

I suspect he, Doan, Draper, and Smyth, will alternate being the bench warmer, of being the 4th line grinder. He will not have a big role on the team.

 

[b in vancouver]

It's not just Bertuzzi. It's frustrating that there's no rewards for the players actually producing this year at all. It looks as if they picked this team a year and a half ago leaving only the three taxi spots open for competition.
Bertuzzi? Doan? Draper? Nash? St.Louis? Iginla? Foote? Luongo? Blake? Jovo? Reghyr?
I wouldn't have been heartbroken to see any of these guys left home.

 

[ResidentAlien*]

It's not just Bertuzzi. It's frustrating that there's no rewards for the players actually producing this year at all. It looks as if they picked this team a year and a half ago leaving only the three taxi spots open for competition.
Bertuzzi? Doan? Draper? Nash? St.Louis? Iginla? Foote? Luongo? Blake? Jovo? Reghyr?
I wouldn't have been heartbroken to see any of these guys left home.

I dont think it is about who is producing this year. I think it is about winning gold.
You do that by putting a team together that you think will give you the best chance at that.

I guess Wayne and Pat and Tamby et al should have come here first.
Face it people, these guys have more Hockey knowledge in their little finger...you know the rest.

Personally Im glad Bert made it, but if he hadnt i would still be rooting just as hard for the team, since I feel that the best people are doing the selecting...

 

[Vaive-Alive]

its not Team Canada's job to teach our young right from wrong by proxy. its the job of the parents, period, end of story.

Actually, its in their mandate - remember that Hockey Canada oversees the management for Team Canada:

"Lead, Develop, and Promote Positive Hockey Experiences."

"Hockey Canada believes...

In a positive hockey experience for all participants, in a safe, sportsmanlike environment.

In the development of life skills which will benefit participants throughout their lives.

In the values of fair play and sportsmanship, including the development of respect for all people by all participants.

In hockey opportunities for all people regardless of age, gender, colour, race, ethnic origin, religion, sexual orientation, or socio-economic status and in both official languages.

In the importance for participants to develop dignity and self- esteem.

To instill the values of honesty and integrity in participants at all times.

In the promotion of teamwork, and the belief that what groups and society can achieve as a whole is greater than that which can be achieved by individuals.

In the country of Canada, its tradition in the game of hockey, and the proud and successful representation of this tradition around the world.

In the value of hard work, determination, the pursuit of excellence and success in all activities.

In the benefits of personal and physical well- being."

At the end of the day - you can't deny there is an optics problem here for Team Canada. Whether or not one agrees with it - well, thats up to the individual. But Bertuzzi's selection runs contrary to their own mandate.

This is the olympics - not the NHL. Olympians should be held to a higher standard IMO. They are supposed to be the elite. The best athletes who compete within the rules of their sport. Thats why the world screams in protest and rage when they don't.

Hard to argue that kids don't try to emulate our olympic best - and when our olympic best haven't lived up to the standards set by their sport, but get there regardless of their actions - simply stating that it should be mom and dad's responsibility to filter out the wrongs from the rights is only a part of the solution. It's not cut and dry, "End of Story" as you suggest. Some of the responsibility in this case falls on the selection commitee. They chose to overlook Bertuzzi's past and put him on the team.

Does Bertuzzi's selection send the wrong message to kids - you bet it does. Will mom and dad be there to filter the message - maybe.

None the less, like countless americans lived with Suter's selection to the 98 Nagano squad, countless canadians will live with Bertuzzi's selection to our 06 squad.

His goals will definitely be bitter-sweet.

GO CANADA.

 

[THE SOVIET*]

honestly, I dont know why people are *****ing about Todd Bertuzzi being on the team, regardless of what team i cheer for, he is a dominate player in the league and for anyone to say otherwise, well, sorry to say, you dont know **** about hockey. A Team Canada without Todd Bertuzzi really isn't using the best of its players, simple as that.

 

[Daily Special]

honestly, I dont know why people are *****ing about Todd Bertuzzi being on the team, regardless of what team i cheer for, he is a dominate player in the league and for anyone to say otherwise, well, sorry to say, you dont know **** about hockey. A Team Canada without Todd Bertuzzi really isn't using the best of its players, simple as that.

But he's a convict. A smear, an embarrassment, a black eye to the team.

 

[RTWAP*]

No doubt.
I was disgusted as the next guy when that whole thing happened, but talk about time to move on.
Seems to me that when a man makes a mistake, and pays for it,( Im not talking about how many games he missed, the mature ones here will know what Im talking about) he should be entitled to at least a second chance. That is a message every young person should learn. Maybe some of you are too young, not sure.
Seems like some folks here are letting their hatred get the best of them, nice message there dont ya think?

Bertuzzi deserves to be on the team.

No he does not. There are some positions that have a higher standard. To be a lawyer you can't be a felon, regardless of whether you served your time. I have no problem with Bert playing in the NHL. I wish him all the success he can find. But lots of folks have a problem with him representing Canada.

Many Canadians love hockey for what it says about us. We want our team to represent our better selves. Our team should be tough, hard working and skilled; when all is said and done all the players should be shaking hands at centre ice. This is hard to do when one of them is on the way to the hospital with a broken neck.

 

[therealdeal]

You tell me. What has Bertuzzi done to deserve to be on this team?

Because Gretzky believes Bertuzzi has the talent to blow open a game.

Remember when Theo made the team and everyone though he would fly off the handle and take bad penalties?

Bertuzzi perhaps isnt the best pick in the world, perhaps Morrow or Tanguay or Staal would have been better. But hes not the worst pick.

 

[Mathletic]

any track & field guy who'll get caught with a pill during a race will be banned for a minimum of 4 years. Our buddy Bertuzzi almost killed Steve Moore, for a banal play, will be at the olympics, while the leading scorer in the NHL will be on the bench.

 

[Tucker316*]

You know, we're bashing Bertuzzi, but we constantly praise a 1972 canadian team that intentionally tried to cripple soviet players, all because we under-rated them and they wetre giving us problems.
We intentionally tried to break the ankle of Kharlamov. Disgusting. But we praise them like heroes.

Now though, we just spit on Bert. Hey, I'm not saying what Bert did was right, but we're hypocrites to praise some of those guys on the 1972 team and then to spit all over Bert. We've had bad guys playing for our country before.

 

[Mathletic]

You know, we're bashing Bertuzzi, but we constantly praise a 1972 canadian team that intentionally tried to cripple soviet players, all because we under-rated them and they wetre giving us problems.
We intentionally tried to break the ankle of Kharlamov. Disgusting. But we praise them like heroes.

Now though, we just spit on Bert. Hey, I'm not saying what Bert did was right, but we're hypocrites to praise some of those guys on the 1972 team and then to spit all over Bert. We've had bad guys playing for our country before.

so what, doesn't mean you can't change your mind and think that it's stupid to have Bertuzzi on the team. We're no longer in 72 and times have changed.

 

[The Bob Cole]

Our buddy Bertuzzi almost killed Steve Moore, for a banal play, will be at the olympics,

I fail to see where Moore was almost killed?

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I would just like to remind everyone that Todd Bertuzzi has scored the 3rd most points in the NHL since 2001...

 

[Mathletic]

I fail to see where Moore was almost killed?

broken neck ?

 

[hockeyfan125]

broken neck ?

Moore had the same injury as a Nascar driver, who was able to race with it.

 

[Mathletic]

Moore had the same injury as a Nascar driver, who was able to race with it.

ok ... does somebody really have to explain you that you need full use of your neck on a hockey ice, while in nascar your head is strapped and everything ?

 

[The Bob Cole]

ok ... does somebody really have to explain you that you need full use of your neck on a hockey ice, while in nascar your head is strapped and everything ?

He wasn't paralyzed, and I fail to see connection from a broken neck to death, does that mean I had a near death experience when I broke my arm?

 

[Mathletic]

He wasn't paralyzed, and I fail to see connection from a broken neck to death, does that mean I had a near death experience when I broke my arm?

it just so happens people have died after breaking their neck, look at the AFL player last year who died on the field after breaking his neck

 

[MS]

Moore had the same injury as a Nascar driver, who was able to race with it.

Moore had almost exactly the same injury as Brad Isbister had last season (chip fracture to neck vertebrae), and Isbister played through it. Brian Savage's neck injury a few years back was much more serious than Moore's (he had to wear a fixed metal head brace for several weeks), and Savage was back in about 3 months.

Moore's problem was the concussion. The broken neck was minor by comparison, although the words 'broken neck' and what it entails are what turned the whole thing into a circus.

it just so happens people have died after breaking their neck, look at the AFL player last year who died on the field after breaking his neck

Not the same sort of "broken neck". Moore's injury was nowhere near his spinal cord.

 

[Daily Special]

I would just like to remind everyone that Todd Bertuzzi has scored the 3rd most points in the NHL since 2001...

Right, all of which came during his one good season.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Steve Moore's problem is post-concussion syndrome. The neck injury he's recovered from.

 

[Mathletic]

Moore had almost exactly the same injury as Brad Isbister had last season (chip fracture to neck vertebrae), and Isbister played through it. Brian Savage's neck injury a few years back was much more serious than Moore's (he had to wear a fixed metal head brace for several weeks), and Savage was back in about 3 months.

Moore's problem was the concussion. The broken neck was minor by comparison, although the words 'broken neck' and what it entails are what turned the whole thing into a circus.




Not the same sort of "broken neck". Moore's injury was nowhere near his spinal cord.

so what, Bertuzzi's intension was not to hit him right where he wouldn't have the same neck injury. Moore could have died from this punch fairly easily, added to fact he was driven head first onto the ice.