Todd Bertuzzi making the team reaction thread

[west in the east]

Thanks to Belarus taking Sweden out, which Team Canada was vocaly afraid of.

Gretz only had by far the largest talent pool to draw from, yet he fell into his patern of Cronyism like his days as shadow GM of the Kings.

possibly, possibly not... I think thats a very poor arguement... speculation doesnt get you very far... also, I think Salo would have helped Canada's cause

 

[PecaFan]

But, this argument really tells me that Bertuzzi has been unable to adapt to a changing situation.

Of course, he doesn't need to adapt in the Olympics, since it will be played on the old ice, with the old rules.

 

[MountainHawk]

I'm glad Bertuzzi in on team Canada. Makes it that much easier to root against them.

 

[Hasbro]

possibly, possibly not... I think thats a very poor arguement... speculation doesnt get you very far... also, I think Salo would have helped Canada's cause

Throw in how he reacted to the criticism of not taking Thorton ahead of Fleury and Lindros. Letting Quinn play CuJo ahead of Brodeur and even Roy. Blamming "US propagnda" for all the heat he got from the Tornto media.

The rationale that Gretzky knows all and therefore his selection shouldn't be questioned, there are plenty of blots on his record and he has more talented players to select so he could have done the right thing and left Bertuzzi off.

 

[Towelie*]

Thanks to Belarus taking Sweden out, which Team Canada was vocaly afraid of.

Gretz only had by far the largest talent pool to draw from, yet he fell into his patern of Cronyism like his days as shadow GM of the Kings.

You are right Hasbro. The only reason Canada won was because of Belarus. Wait, that isn't very logical. If Belarus could beat Sweden and the shakey Salo, then why wouldn't Canada? Sweden had a very good team, but a terrible goalie. Lets not play the "what if" game, but what makes you think Salo would play better against Canada then Belarus?

 

[Frankie]

yah, cuz thats going to happen

who knows? it certainly could happen. bertuzzi is stupid and dangerous. he's proven it more then once.

 

[Towelie*]

Throw in how he reacted to the criticism of not taking Thorton ahead of Fleury and Lindros. Letting Quinn play CuJo ahead of Brodeur and even Roy. Blamming "US propagnda" for all the heat he got from the Tornto media.

He never played Cujo ahead of Roy.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I'm glad Bertuzzi in on team Canada. Makes it that much easier to root against them.

But look at the flipside, when Canada wins gold and Bertuzzi has that shinny gold medal hoisted around his neck with a big smile on his face - you'll be devostated.

 

[Hasbro]

He never played Cujo ahead of Roy.

He took CuJo ahead of Roy. It was an open secret that he was going to start him on the team ahead of him and Brodeur, that had alot to do with Roy not going.

 

[Hasbro]

You are right Hasbro. The only reason Canada won was because of Belarus. Wait, that isn't very logical. If Belarus could beat Sweden and the shakey Salo, then why wouldn't Canada? Sweden had a very good team, but a terrible goalie. Lets not play the "what if" game, but what makes you think Salo would play better against Canada then Belarus?

Hell several members of Team Canada agreed with me on that point. They were pretty vocal about not wanting to play Sweden again after they shelled them in the opening round.

 

[lennie]

Thanks to Belarus taking Sweden out, which Team Canada was vocaly afraid of.

Gretz only had by far the largest talent pool to draw from, yet he fell into his patern of Cronyism like his days as shadow GM of the Kings.

Your hatred of the Canucks is just flat out becoming Laughable Hasbro

Now you turn your misguided intellect to Gretzky. You really think Gretzky mishandeled the 02 Gold medal team.? That in it self is laughable.

So Belarus beat Sweden. Are you saying we couldn't have handeled Sweden?? That is pure conjecture. As you are want to say. You know this how??

Too much

 

[canuckers88]

im glad bertuzzi made it really

now the rest of canada and really see how canuck fanatics overrated their players

the 2 worse defensive players on the Team Canada...come from the nucks

 

[Towelie*]

Hell several members of Team Canada agreed with me on that point. They were pretty vocal about not wanting to play Sweden again after they shelled them in the opening round.

I am not saying that Sweden was a bad team, they were in fact good. I just think its rather silly to attribute team Canada's gold medal to Belarus beating Sweden.

 

[formsoldier*]

bertuzzi - poor hockey sense, floater, cherry picker, not overly physical, no concept of defensive, not a good passer, but can score

Whhhuuuuuut? Are you insane?

I know most of you people who come around these boards are goal-horny and only look at goals goals goals. GOALS!!! GOALSCORERS! YEY!!!

But I've always felt Bertuzzi's just as good of a playmaker as he's a scorer.

I don't understand how you can say he's "not a good passer".

Sure he can score, but his playmaking is great, especially if he's playing with great talent. Naslund gets great passes from Bertuzzi, backhand passes, no look passes, and passes where Bertuzzi's just deked a guy out with skill, or powered around him.

The whole situation might be controversial, but Bertuzzi will make this team better, despite my/your personal feelings toward him and his act back in march 2004.

 

[ToNedOuT]

I'm glad Bertuzzi in on team Canada. Makes it that much easier to root against them.

I'm also glad he's on the team...much easier to beat Team USA with him...literally.

Seriously though I'm glad he's on the team, and disappointed in the number of people that don't believe in second chances.

 

[Remax]

If Bertuzzi, Doan, or Heatley shouldn't be on team Canada, then Perezhogin should not be on Kazakhstan, but I don't see any threads about that

 

[God Bless Canada]

Bertuzzi is on the team because when he's on, there isn't a player like him in the NHL. Period. He's 6'3", 245 pounds, yet he has wonderful speed and agility, and can make great moves with the puck at top speed. He controls the front of the net. He hits, he forechecks, and even when he isn't scoring, he can be the most important player on the team, because the opposition hears footsteps every time he's on the ice. (Witness first round vs. St. Louis in 2003, when he and Linden controlled the Blues defence).

Yes he's inconsistent, and can be a bonehead. But the common denominator of all players picked by Canada in recent years is an ability to elevate their play, no matter their role.

I am fully confident that Bertuzzi, with something to prove and (potentially) on a line with Thornton and Heatley, will showcase the dominance that we saw from 2002-04, and in spurts the last two seasons.

 

[Hasbro]

Your hatred of the Canucks is just flat out becoming Laughable Hasbro

Now you turn your misguided intellect to Gretzky. You really think Gretzky mishandeled the 02 Gold medal team.? That in it self is laughable.

So Belarus beat Sweden. Are you saying we couldn't have handeled Sweden?? That is pure conjecture. As you are want to say. You know this how??

Too much

Yes honestly. He had the largest talent pool to cover up his mistakes, got a lucky draw in the semis and when the team sputtered plenty of Canadians were voicing the same criticisms as I am. His scapegoating of America showwed a distinct lack of decency given the events of the day and the fact that he's chosen to reside in this country since the trade to LA.

 

[Charge_Seven]

who knows? it certainly could happen. bertuzzi is stupid and dangerous. he's proven it more then once.

Enlighten me as to all of the times Bertuzzi has proven to be dangerous.

 

[canuckers88]

Bertuzzi is on the team because when he's on, there isn't a player like him in the NHL. Period. He's 6'3", 245 pounds, yet he has wonderful speed and agility, and can make great moves with the puck at top speed. He controls the front of the net. He hits, he forechecks, and even when he isn't scoring, he can be the most important player on the team, because the opposition hears footsteps every time he's on the ice. (Witness first round vs. St. Louis in 2003, when he and Linden controlled the Blues defence).

Yes he's inconsistent, and can be a bonehead. But the common denominator of all players picked by Canada in recent years is an ability to elevate their play, no matter their role.

I am fully confident that Bertuzzi, with something to prove and (potentially) on a line with Thornton and Heatley, will showcase the dominance that we saw from 2002-04, and in spurts the last two seasons.

most people think the flu is what controlled the blues defence

 

[Hasbro]

Enlighten me as to all of the times Bertuzzi has proven to be dangerous.

Moore, jumping off the bench to attack Parker, bashing Eric Messier's head on the ice, kicking a guy in the head in junior...

 

[SopelFan*]

Moore, jumping off the bench to attack Parker, bashing Eric Messier's head on the ice, kicking a guy in the head in junior...

He eliminates fourth liners with ease!

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I love how three of the four occasions are against Colorado

Hasbro, you're my favorite poster.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

most people think the flu is what controlled the blues defence

Did the flu take out Macinnis, Jackman, and Salvador?

 

[God Bless Canada]

Roy announced two months before the Olympics that he was not going to play for Canada because they weren't willing to hand him the No. 1 job. He decided he would rest up for the playoffs instead. And what did it get him? One of the most embarassing goals against by any goalie in recent playoff history in game 6 vs. Detroit, and a world-class whooping in Game 7. He got what he deserved on that one.

Roy is, for my money, the best goalie ever not named Jacques Plante. But he screwed up royally with the 2002 Olympics. Could have had a gold medal. Instead he rested up to lose 7-0 to Detroit in Game 7.