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RebuildYear5 said:
Calgary replaced him with Tanev because they do know something, and clearly he lacks defensive abilities hence why they signed Chris.

Apparently Kyle hasn't got the memo yet, defensive defenseman.

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Well Vancouver just let Tanev walk for nothing too so you could say the same for him.

It's also possible that Brodie chose the leafs over the flames because he's from Ontario and wants stability and to be near family. The leafs have clearly wanted him for a while.

Unless you've got inside info from Calgary's management I just don't think this is the case.

Seen plenty of Calgary fans say they would've done that deal for Brodie but as a UFA he holds the cards.

He's not a perfect solution but you do realize he's top 10 in defensive zone turnovers right? The leafs need players who are responsible in their own end AND can make a breakout pass. That's Brodie. A DFD who can't move the puck won't work. See Zaitsev.
 
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Dubas & co. with the long play.

Under the surface, it seems both the Leafs and TJ have had mutual interest dating back to last year. I don't think Barrie ever was in the long term plans. At best he was always a plan B or C.
 
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Garthinater said:
I have heard so many dubas supporters say that both kerfoot and aj were signed to great deals.

Fast forward a bit and thats clearly not the case.

It is interesting how often they claim that dubas made a great move only to be proven wrong soon after.

Sparks over mcbackup, kadri for barrie and kerfoot, most of dubas' contracts, etc.

They even thought that the 19-20 leaf team was going to be the best we had in years! Meanwhile, in reality, we lost to our own 40 y.o. emwrgency back up, couldn't make the 1st round and have been clearly getting worse.

It's almost like they don't fully understand how the game of hockey works. Yet, after being proven wrong, often, they are still very condescending towards anyone who doubts dubas.

It makes no sense.
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Hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day, it’s been awhile since we could be excited about trade deadlines or UFA signings, since Shanahan/Dubas have been here, the leafs have been involved in everything. I liked all the decisions he’s made, yeah they didn’t always pan out, but at the time they made the most sense. A lot of people bring up ceci/Barrie year but I was excited at the time for those deals too because Barrie was a hell of a player and addressed our biggest need, moving the puck out from the right side. Dubas also made sure our defense was all 1 year so we could test if it worked and wouldn’t be stuck with them which I think is overlooked.
 
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Its amazing how much crap we get for cap management. Have the core mostly locked up, add a coveted UFA dman. Meanwhile the Canucks who are now all the rage lose their starter and a top 4 dman while Petterson is still on his ELC. At some point I hope our fans realize that while the contract situation isn't ideal we really aren't in that bad a spot given Dubas ditched/avoided all our would be bad contracts ie/JVR, Martin, Bozak, Marleau, Zaistev, Komarov, Gardiner. Of course skeptics will point to next offseason but you folks have been calling for the other shoe to drop for years, maybe just maybe Dubas knows what he's doing.
 
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OVO16 said:
Brodie is better defensively than Barrie. So I guess that's a upgrade.

But I still didn't think he was the type of D-Man we were going to get to pair with Reilly. So a little disappointed in that.
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I don't think they are done yet but I don't believe you can dumpster dive and get a top pairing D so he may be with Rielly by default. The rumor is the Leafs did not even match Stl money for AP so if $8M is too much money to bring in, where is the margin for another D if $5M is spent on TJ? A top pairing guy for under $3M? That sounds like they might have a $2M 3rd pairing guy in the budget unless they can wangle CBJ into retaining money on a Savard deal and for that to happen there would likely need to be a nice pick/prospect plus.
CBJ does have a decision to make on extending Savard after this season and the X draft is a factor so it makes sense they look at a move now. And of course there is always Manson but I think he is safer as a second pairing guy than a fit with MR.
 
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Ryan Michaels said:
Its amazing how much crap we get for cap management. Have the core mostly locked up, add a coveted UFA dman. Meanwhile the Canucks who are now all the rage lose their starter and a top 4 dman while Petterson is still on his ELC. At some point I hope our fans realize that while the contract situation isn't ideal we really aren't in that bad a spot given Dubas ditched/avoided all our would be bad contracts ie/JVR, Martin, Bozak, Marleau, Zaistev, Komarov, Gardiner. Of course skeptics will point to next offseason but you folks have been calling for the other shoe to drop for years, maybe just maybe Dubas knows what he's doing.
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If I was a Canucks fan, I would be nervous as hell TBH.

Was checking the stats from the time Keefe took over to end of season and here were the team defensive rankings:

1. Columbus
2. Minny
3. Boston
4. Tampa
5. Philly


10. Toronto


27: Chicago
28: Winnipeg
29: Detroit
30: NYR
31: Vancouver

Vancouver didnt feel the full sting (although they still allowed the 6th most goals over this span) mostly due to the incredible play of Markstrom but now with losing him, their best defensive dman and possibly Stecher who was a really defensively solid bottom pairing guy as well, they could be in for a slaughter when it comes to goals against next year, no matter how well Hughes develops.
 
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Last year when we got Barrie, Avs fans told us he was overrated and a defensive sieve...we didn't buy it but they turned out to be right (they were also right on Kerfoot).

This time Calgary fans are telling us Brodie is a gem, so I'm inclined to believe them.
 
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Kurtz said:
Last year when we got Barrie, Avs fans told us he was overrated and a defensive sieve...we didn't buy it but they turned out to be right (they were also right on Kerfoot).

This time Calgary fans are telling us Brodie is a gem, so I'm inclined to believe them.
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They are quite divided on that I think, but not much talk about Tanev as being an upgrade. The 4th year is possibly why he isn't still in Van or on his way to TO. I wonder where Hamo ends up? Also has had injury problems and is coming off a worse year than Brodie or Tanev.
 
The speculated reason as to why Brodie walked is that we made him feel surplus to requirements by trying to trade him twice. Rest assured, he's a stud. One of the few guys in the league that could regularly hold their own against McDavid and MacKinnon

The turnover numbers don't matter because he has the puck a bunch
 
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I like this a lot. It was also Dubas's first choice last year when trading Kadri.

Hopefully this RHD will work our better than Barrie
 
Kurtz said:
Last year when we got Barrie, Avs fans told us he was overrated and a defensive sieve...we didn't buy it but they turned out to be right (they were also right on Kerfoot).

This time Calgary fans are telling us Brodie is a gem, so I'm inclined to believe them.
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To be fair, the analytics crowd although skeptical (especially with his defense/decline) were happy with adding Barrie because we hoped he'd be able to be protected defensively by Muzzin and bring sexy transition and offensive play to make up for it (Rielly 2.0). He wasn't as bad defensively as advertised imo, but because his offensive contributions were almost completely limited to shooting at the nearest shin pad, he wasn't even the kind of defenseman we hoped for in a "worst case scenario".

In Brodie's case the issue has never been with his analytics (especially defensively), so much as that when he's not playing with Giordano he's worse (so is Gio, but that's besides the point). This contract will look like a steal if he can mesh in a similar way with one of Muzzin or Rielly.
 
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Crosscrease14 said:
Well Vancouver just let Tanev walk for nothing too so you could say the same for him.

It's also possible that Brodie chose the leafs over the flames because he's from Ontario and wants stability and to be near family. The leafs have clearly wanted him for a while.

Unless you've got inside info from Calgary's management I just don't think this is the case.

Seen plenty of Calgary fans say they would've done that deal for Brodie but as a UFA he holds the cards.

He's not a perfect solution but you do realize he's top 10 in defensive zone turnovers right? The leafs need players who are responsible in their own end AND can make a breakout pass. That's Brodie. A DFD who can't move the puck won't work. See Zaitsev.
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Vancouver let Tanev walk because well let's look at there defensive core and depth....he was expandable
 
Also clearly Calgarys team values Tanev around the same as Brodie hence why maybe they wanted more gritt...were in the same position.

If he is so good why did they sign Tanev for 500k less and lose him for nothing.

Funny how us Leaf fans think this guys gonna be our 1A RD the fix too all our problems.

Ooo and we're banking on him getting better as he ages past his prime, people saying this move will be a steal in a few years are delusional.

Better strap up and get ready for the ride because this our golden opportunity to win with the young guys and too be honest I dont see this roster winning anything anytime soon.
 
RebuildYear5 said:
Calgary replaced him with Tanev because they do know something, and clearly he lacks defensive abilities hence why they signed Chris.

Apparently Kyle hasn't got the memo yet, defensive defenseman.

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From what I've read, Calgary wanted to re-sign Brodie, but Brodie chose Toronto. He has history in Toronto.
 
RebuildYear5 said:
Also clearly Calgarys team values Tanev around the same as Brodie hence why maybe they wanted more gritt...were in the same position.

If he is so good why did they sign Tanev for 500k less and lose him for nothing.

Funny how us Leaf fans think this guys gonna be our 1A RD the fix too all our problems.

Ooo and we're banking on him getting better as he ages past his prime, people saying this move will be a steal in a few years are delusional.

Better strap up and get ready for the ride because this our golden opportunity to win with the young guys and too be honest I dont see this roster winning anything anytime soon.
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ULF_55 said:
From what I've read, Calgary wanted to re-sign Brodie, but Brodie chose Toronto. He has history in Toronto.
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I heard that Calgary and other teams were only offering Brodie 3 years and Toronto was the only team who offered him 4 years.

So if you believe that I guess it's why Calgary had no choice to give Tanev 4 years after they lost Brodie.
 
Bomber0104 said:
There's no way Kerfoot/Johnsson are going to return anything in a trade when there's free agents available that can do more and will come in at a cheaper cap hit.

We may actually be stuck with them this season.

If the Leafs want to solidify their d-corps once and for all, it will probably have to come at the expense of Nylander and/or some of the higher value prospects/picks.
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Please give me the names of those players. And the evidence that they are capable of doing so. I'll be here.
 
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ULF_55 said:
From what I've read, Calgary wanted to re-sign Brodie, but Brodie chose Toronto. He has history in Toronto.
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Dont believe everything you read on the internet....why would he walk on Calgary now makes no sense....the Flames didnt want him back it's that simple
 
In hindsight, it probably worked better for the Leafs- Cap wise, that Kadri nixed the trade. I know if Kadri didn’t, we didn’t had to endure Barrie....but I am 100%sure if TJ was traded last season, his extension would have been higher than 5mil/4yrs.
 
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BrannigansLaw said:
If all we’re doing is adding Brodie and Simmonds,
we may as well accept our first round defeat now. Assuming we make the playoffs
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ok eeyore .... do you need some sun to cheer you up ?



whats everyone complaining out ... who was the best dman available after AP ?? thats right brodie ..... and got at a reasonable cap hit ... we still have 3 + months before the season starts save your anger for the actual season
 
I do like that if this bombs out like Barrie, Brodie can be exposed in the draft next year.

But I think he’s a good fit, should help stabilize the top 4 and be a solid partner for either Reilly or Muzzin
 
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