Confirmed with Link: TJ Brodie to TOR | 4 years 5M per

[Walshy7]

Lmao I don't get it. We get an experienced veteran D man and people are upset that he's not some 25 year old entering his prime in UFA signing for a cap friendly contract. I honestly don't know what peoples expectations are. This team clearly lacked leadership and a veteran presence, and we got 2 guys yesterday that provide just that, Brodie also addressing the RD issue.

unfortunately there are many (far too many) posters in the leafs section now who are so anti dubas they won’t admit a good deal and will nitpick the tiniest of negatives out of all signings.

I truly believe if dubas got mcdavid 50% retained for andreas johnsson there would still be whining from them, “oh great AJ provided at least a little bit of grit”

 

[inthe6ix]

Like what I hear from sensible CGY fans with honest assessments about TJ's game - he may have been helped by Gio, but Gio was also helped by him. Hopefully Morgan will have just as good a relationship with TJ whose defensive stats look very solid:

Top 10 in the league in not turning the puck over in his end - that's impressive.

 

[KingJoffrey]

Welcome to town Jake Gardiner the third.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I will never understand why people around here will stick up for Lou. His job was to sit back, dump contracts, and tank. And yet he still found a way to screw it up. He dealt away multiple 2nds for rentals when the team wasnt close to contending and signed Marleau knowing year 3 would cost the team(this was well known). Yes, there are moves you can find that worked but ultimately, he was awful for the future.

 

[Mentat]

No doubt Brodie is a much needed addition to the blue line. And a solid one at that.
However, i have some doubts that he´s THE ideal partner for Rielly. I´d like to see Morgs paired up with a Muzzin type player and Muzzin with a Riellyesk player, which TJ is, somewhat.

 

[crackdown44]

People who think this is dumb are dumb. People who want a defenseman to lead the league in hits should probably take a step back and realize that you literally never have the puck when you’re hitting people

 

[Legion34]

The core is clearly.


Matthews/nylander
Tavares/ marner


Rielly.


The fact that muzzin and brodie both end their contracts when willy and Matty are up isn’t a coincidence.

I think it’s.

run this team for the next 2 years.

when rielly/sandin are up. Toss muzzin overboard if you have to.

Then pay what you need to to keep Matty/willy,

then Tavares takes a cheap contract at 35 to balance out mitch.


Obviously things will change. Other players will
Emerge. But I think they are giving themselves
Flexibility for when Matthews comes up.

 

[Legion34]

Lmao I don't get it. We get an experienced veteran D man and people are upset that he's not some 25 year old entering his prime in UFA signing for a cap friendly contract. I honestly don't know what peoples expectations are. This team clearly lacked leadership and a veteran presence, and we got 2 guys yesterday that provide just that, Brodie also addressing the RD issue.

buying a D 30-33 seasons is not at all an issue.

most defence are still good in their early 30s.

 

[GBLeaf]

Pietro is kinda screwing himself, the longer he waits the less teams are in his orbit, Toronto can't afford him now with the Simmonds and Brodie signings, The Blues have moved on. Rumors have the Bruins in on OEL - they might be out.

If you are one of 2 or 3 teams with cap space and you know he has a preference for your team are you backing up the money truck? or are you waiting to see what develops? When you start to hear more rumors come out about AP, that is his agent trying to gin up a bidding war between clubs.

The guys is 30 and has made minimum $60m from the game thus far. Granted, taxes... etc mean cash in his hand isn't at that. But he is a rich guy. He can retire any day he wants and live a life about 99% of the world dreams of.

At this point in his career - and this isn't just him to be fair, includes anyone in his position - why the hell wouldn't you go, 'so, i'm probably worth $7m dollars a year, but i'm gonna take $5m a year for 7 years and join a contender'.

When all is said and done and he is retired, I bet he'd give up some on his past earning to have achieved more as a player. I think a lot of players only have that realisation when they are done. Give up a little and get back a lot that money cannot buy.

Ah well, that's just my two cents. I'm a bit of a fantasist.

 

[Dayjobdave]

Brodie is a great addition. I thought Barriewould be great here and I was wrong, but this seems like a better fit.

We may need one more defence-first d man, or maybe Lily or Lehtonen can fill that role.

 

[The CyNick]

unfortunately there are many (far too many) posters in the leafs section now who are so anti dubas they won’t admit a good deal and will nitpick the tiniest of negatives out of all signings.

I truly believe if dubas got mcdavid 50% retained for andreas johnsson there would still be whining from them, “oh great AJ provided at least a little bit of grit”

This is so far from the truth.

The truth is actually the opposite. The pro Dubas camp will praise ANY deal he makes. And even the bad ones will be met with something like "I give it a B-".

Here's the facts on Brodie. He doesn't make us harder to play against. I think I saw someone post he had 20 hits last year, which aligns with what I think of his game. He's yet ANOTHER left handed shot when we need a right shot. Yes, he has played on the right side, but he's still at a disadvantage playing on his backhand primarily. It's another big contract that has downstream impact. Just to get to a 20 man roster we need to lose another piece. Which is fine if we replaced them with a player who is hard to play against, but I don't have confidence that will happen.

The positives. He's an okay defenseman. He's not great by any means, but he's a reasonable 4-6 D on a good team. We're asking him to be a #2 I guess. So he's going to be in over his head trying to defend other team's top lines, when he would be most effective in sheltered minutes (similar to how Reilly would be most effective). Back to the pluses, he's like Hainsey in that he's a lefty but played the right side a lot. Unlike Muzzin who was brought in to play the right side, even though he didn't have much experience there and frankly wasn't very good on that side. Problem is he's not as reliable a partner as Hainsey was.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Good contract. I like that we kept it to just 4 years. Excited to see what a healthy Rielly can do with a legitimate partner.

 

[Dekes For Days]

He's yet ANOTHER left handed shot when we need a right shot.

He's a right side defenseman.

he's a reasonable 4-6 D on a good team.

Lmao. He's easily a top-3 defenseman.

Problem is he's not as reliable a partner as Hainsey was.

He's a way more reliable player than Hainsey ever was for us.

 

[The CyNick]

People who think this is dumb are dumb. People who want a defenseman to lead the league in hits should probably take a step back and realize that you literally never have the puck when you’re hitting people

This mindset turned us from a team with stanley cup potential to a team that can't qualify for the round of 16 in the playoffs.

 

[Legion34]

This is so far from the truth.

The truth is actually the opposite. The pro Dubas camp will praise ANY deal he makes. And even the bad ones will be met with something like "I give it a B-".

Here's the facts on Brodie. He doesn't make us harder to play against. I think I saw someone post he had 20 hits last year, which aligns with what I think of his game. He's yet ANOTHER left handed shot when we need a right shot. Yes, he has played on the right side, but he's still at a disadvantage playing on his backhand primarily. It's another big contract that has downstream impact. Just to get to a 20 man roster we need to lose another piece. Which is fine if we replaced them with a player who is hard to play against, but I don't have confidence that will happen.

The positives. He's an okay defenseman. He's not great by any means, but he's a reasonable 4-6 D on a good team. We're asking him to be a #2 I guess. So he's going to be in over his head trying to defend other team's top lines, when he would be most effective in sheltered minutes (similar to how Reilly would be most effective). Back to the pluses, he's like Hainsey in that he's a lefty but played the right side a lot. Unlike Muzzin who was brought in to play the right side, even though he didn't have much experience there and frankly wasn't very good on that side. Problem is he's not as reliable a partner as Hainsey was.

Ummmmm literally name 1 season as a full time nhl where brodie played 4-6?

he was Calgary’s top pair d for years. He was 2nd pair 1 time and it was a massive mistake.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Ultimately, I think the multi year flat cap is going to require a painful move, or two, as Dubas adjusts to the new financial reality. Obviously, when he gave Tavares 11m, Matthews 11.7m, Marner 10.8m and Nylander 7.0m he expected 5+ million in additional space from the cap rising, coupled with the 1.2 million from Kessel coming off the books, by time Reilly needed a new contract.

Reilly will remain a priority, and in order for this team to navigate the flat cap while trying to continue to improve, two of Anderson, Nylander, Muzzin and Hyman will need to go in the near future for flexibility, assuming that Kerfoot and Johnson are basically out the door already.

I think that in fairly short order (2 years or so), in order to facilitate Reilly being re-signed and Toronto getting out of cap hell you're looking at somethong like....

Robertson / Matthews / Marner
Amirov / Tavares / Nylander
Mikheyev / Engvall / VET MIN
Korshkov / Hallander / VET MIN

Reilly / FA or Trade
Sandin / Brodie
Dermott / Liljegren

FA
Campbell

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Wonder if we can swing a Savard at 50% trade or something. Perhaps at the deadline.

Rielly-Savard
Muzzin-Brodie
Dermott-Holl

That would be an insane d-corp with every pairing well balanced stylistically

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I wonder if this is who chuck was talking about

 

[Walshy7]

This is so far from the truth.

The truth is actually the opposite. The pro Dubas camp will praise ANY deal he makes. And even the bad ones will be met with something like "I give it a B-".

Here's the facts on Brodie. He doesn't make us harder to play against. I think I saw someone post he had 20 hits last year, which aligns with what I think of his game. He's yet ANOTHER left handed shot when we need a right shot. Yes, he has played on the right side, but he's still at a disadvantage playing on his backhand primarily. It's another big contract that has downstream impact. Just to get to a 20 man roster we need to lose another piece. Which is fine if we replaced them with a player who is hard to play against, but I don't have confidence that will happen.

The positives. He's an okay defenseman. He's not great by any means, but he's a reasonable 4-6 D on a good team. We're asking him to be a #2 I guess. So he's going to be in over his head trying to defend other team's top lines, when he would be most effective in sheltered minutes (similar to how Reilly would be most effective). Back to the pluses, he's like Hainsey in that he's a lefty but played the right side a lot. Unlike Muzzin who was brought in to play the right side, even though he didn't have much experience there and frankly wasn't very good on that side. Problem is he's not as reliable a partner as Hainsey was.

ah yes a reply from pretty much the poster boy of who I was referring to

thank you

 

[mcleex]

People who think this is dumb are dumb. People who want a defenseman to lead the league in hits should probably take a step back and realize that you literally never have the puck when you’re hitting people

You also don't have possession of the puck for 100% of the time. It's impossible to do. So while you don't have it, you should be hitting people. Plain & simple

 

[Duffman955]

There is a ton of great bargain bin deals left. Should not have signed Kerfoot. Could easily have replaced him for 1.5mil

 

[Bluelines]

OEL set his personal deadline as noon yesterday, unless something has changed.

I'm starting to wonder if the Bruins aren't the frontrunner now

Could be, Sweeney postponed his news conference yesterday, leading people to speculate he was working on a big deal, they also withdrew their 6.6 mil offer to Krug yesterday, leading to more speculation it was either AP or OEL that Sweeney was working on.

 

[Wiseguys]

Calgary chose Tanev a RD over resigning Brodie, both roughly the same age and similar stats, same term. Tanev being $500,000 cheaper. I would imagine that Calgary felt Brodie wasn't worth it, yet why would the Leafs choose Brodie over Tanev? They could have had a right shot D that they were looking for and cheaper. Is there that much of a difference in the players?

 

[Bluelines]

I think AP and/or his agent misjudged big time. For some reasons, they thought teams actually have the cap space to spend. If the rumour of the 9mil asking price is true and it was not just a nice way to say NO to Dubas and the Leafs. Pietra and his agent truly got everything wrong. Going to be really hard for Vegas to trade for cap space to fit Pietra.

Speculation is Columbus, Colorado, Florida and Boston have entered the AP sweepstakes... there are teams that can sign him but the question is are there teams that want to sign him (internal budgets).

 

[Jmo89]

People who think this is dumb are dumb. People who want a defenseman to lead the league in hits should probably take a step back and realize that you literally never have the puck when you’re hitting people

After seeing that egg commercial 500x yesterday all I can think of when reading your post is,

"Brodie in Toronto isn't dumb, you're dumb."

Now it's stuck in my head.