Proposal: Time To Trade David Krejci

[DBL]

This isn't a hard equation. Bottom line is that we can't keep everyone. It's either move DK and keep Soda and Boychuck or the other way around. I don't see how Chia gets DK for under 7m and Boychuck gets 5 easy based on today's prices. In fact if Soda has a 55-60 point year he could get a team willing to go 6m. So it boils down to not who they think is the best player (because DK wins that) but who you can get several assets in return and allow you to be proactive in signing guys to extensions sooner rather than later.

I think the first thing that needs to be determined is can we get the centers signed if we trade 55. If so then that is great by I am not sure it's realistic.

I don't think Soda is in that equation. I think he's a totally different story. Soda situation is such a mind twist, trying to figure out how he fits in after this year right now seems mute. If he continues to progress, going to get interesting.

If it's between, Boychuk for 5+ or Krejci around 7m, think you go Krejci. Boychuk is great and will be worth 5m to a team, would be for this team, but he's more replaceable with Kevan Miller, Seidenberg back, and hopefully McQuaid if he can find a way to stay healthy.

Think Krejci is such a huge piece, relied upon so heavily, that unless he regresses, it's a monster risk. Is there one player on this team that changes it as much as him if he leaves? Your pretty much changing the top 3 lines, totally different lines and on top of that adding more responsibility for all those players. Bergeron included, adding even more to this guys plate. Having Krejci around helps Bergeron be a better player, and vice versa, 1a, 1b. And the theme is to save some cap space, so Krejci will be traded more for potential, whatever comes back will not be close to what Krejci provides to the Bruins today.

Then again don't think Chia is even thinking of moving Krejci anyways.

 

[Jeff from Maine]

Interesting discussion.

I have faith that whichever route Chiarelli decides to go in, the team will be just fine.

I want to see some kids in the line up for this season. We have enviable strength up the middle. We have a few wings who can produce. We have some kids who look to be guys who are ready to step up and contribute to some level.

Slot your centers and then fill in the moving parts around them. You have positional flexibility to work with.

I want to see what Smith and Eriksson can do with a true set up man. Maybe they fail, maybe the thrive.

Smith-Krejci- Eriksson
Bergeron- Lucic- Marchand
Soderberg- Spooner- Koklachev
Kelly- Campbell- Paille

What I would truly like to see is Kelly moved. But that's probably a bit easier to type, than actually make happen. If they could dump him, throw Fraser into a 4th line wing slot.

I have faith, regardless, that the Bruins will be in a good spot. This season may result in a bit of a step backwards, but I don't see it being a huge step backwards. Hell, most felt that Iginla was an upgrade on Horton. This team won a Cup with Rich Peverly skating on the top line for a decent amount of the Finals series.

At some point the kids need to be given the opportunity to show whether or not they can play.

Yeah, my post isn't so much of a trade Krejci or don't trade him sort of thing. I like what he has done in the postseason, save for this past postseason. I am in the camp of keep him, and let things play out. Things always seem to work themselves out.

Later

 

[patty59]

I don't think it is about what Soda wants it's more what he will get on the open market if he has another strong year. So my point was let's get him locked up sooner rather than later.

The other X factor is Dougie who will likely get in the 4m range.

Someone won't be here. We just need to maximize the return soon.

I agree, I would have to imagine that they've already talked to those guys to see where they are in terms on money they're looking at for their new deals.

Someone is going to have to go, but I think it's not a bad idea to get them all locked up reasonably during the year and then explore trades if need be since they're worth more signed than not.

There's really no reason they can't keep all three if they move Kelly. But maybe they want to get Morrow in on D and moving Boychuk could upgrade the F group?

Chiarelli is going to have his work cut out for him this year, especially since it sounds like Krug and Smith are getting one year deals.

 

[Jeff from Maine]

You're probably right. That is the likely scenario. The trouble is the wings still aren't good enough, and the defense has potential issues.

Plus, you slide in Spooner, a skilled center, and you're going to put crap on both of his sides. Essentially you're looking at two 4th lines.

Who knows what it will look like.

Krejci- Lucic- Eriksson/Smith
Bergeron- Marchand- Eriksson/Smith
Spooner- Koklachev- Paille/Fraser

There are options. Do they look sexy? No. Can they be effective? Maybe yes, maybe no.

I also believe that the system needs to open up a bit. No a full philosophical change. But allow your wings a bit more east-west movement. I believe Seguin sad the Dallas system was bit of fresh air, as he had full freedom of movement. Eriksson struggled with what is a fairly strict lane skating philosophy.

Just my 2 cents.

Later

 

[b in vancouver]

I would be very hesitant to trade Krejci. A lot of centres who play similar styles seem to have their best years from 28 - 32. H. Sedin being a recent example. Centre depth is key to the Bruins and I don't think spooner could replace what krejci brings. Then again, I don't think he'll get $8m and will sign for around 6.5.

 

[BergyWho37]

I don't think Soda is in that equation. I think he's a totally different story. Soda situation is such a mind twist, trying to figure out how he fits in after this year right now seems mute. If he continues to progress, going to get interesting.

If it's between, Boychuk for 5+ or Krejci around 7m, think you go Krejci. Boychuk is great and will be worth 5m to a team, would be for this team, but he's more replaceable with Kevan Miller, Seidenberg back, and hopefully McQuaid if he can find a way to stay healthy.

Think Krejci is such a huge piece, relied upon so heavily, that unless he regresses, it's a monster risk. Is there one player on this team that changes it as much as him if he leaves? Your pretty much changing the top 3 lines, totally different lines and on top of that adding more responsibility for all those players. Bergeron included, adding even more to this guys plate. Having Krejci around helps Bergeron be a better player, and vice versa, 1a, 1b. And the theme is to save some cap space, so Krejci will be traded more for potential, whatever comes back will not be close to what Krejci provides to the Bruins today.

Then again don't think Chia is even thinking of moving Krejci anyways.

Nailed this post !! Krejci haters or think he needs to go for whatever reason at this time .. would cry wolf after he's gone

Hardly doubt you hear other teams wanting to trade, arguably there number 1 centre every offseason ..shame on you guys . He takes more heat then soooo many others it's unreal

I like the Yeti even Spooner but have they help lead this team to the promise land ? Is Krech turning 38 or something ? Noooo he won the cup before his prime

Our Depth is Centre .. We are very blessed having 2 that are well above average, this is HUGE on our team

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Nailed this post !! Krejci haters or think he needs to go for whatever reason at this time .. would cry wolf after he's gone

Hardly doubt you hear other teams wanting to trade, arguably there number 1 centre every offseason ..shame on you guys . He takes more heat then soooo many others it's unreal

I like the Yeti even Spooner but have they help lead this team to the promise land ? Is Krech turning 38 or something ? Noooo he won the cup before his prime

Our Depth is Centre .. We are very blessed having 2 that are well above average, this is HUGE on our team

The argument on the flip side though is you could get a good return for DK and thus possibly provide Bergy/Yeti/Spooner(3rd line C) with better wings. Even by adding 1 wing it would allow the 3rd line with Eriksson/Smith or new guy.

Who is going to play 3rd line RW with Kelly-Yeti provided we even have Kelly next season?

 

[KrejciMVP]

The argument on the flip side though is you could get a good return for DK and thus possibly provide Bergy/Yeti/Spooner(3rd line C) with better wings. Even by adding 1 wing it would allow the 3rd line with Eriksson/Smith or new guy.

Who is going to play 3rd line RW with Kelly-Yeti provided we even have Kelly next season?

If Bergy is so much better than Krejci, imagine what we could get for him!

The KIL line was insane last year with their +- rating. +39 for Krejci leading the NHL for the 2nd time in this stat. (still peanuts compared to Bobby Orr) Breaking that up would be a huge mistake.

 

[Killer B]

Nailed this post !! Krejci haters or think he needs to go for whatever reason at this time .. would cry wolf after he's gone

Hardly doubt you hear other teams wanting to trade, arguably there number 1 centre every offseason ..shame on you guys . He takes more heat then soooo many others it's unreal

I like the Yeti even Spooner but have they help lead this team to the promise land ? Is Krech turning 38 or something ? Noooo he won the cup before his prime

Our Depth is Centre .. We are very blessed having 2 that are well above average, this is HUGE on our team

Krecji haters? Who here says they hate Krecji?

The Bruins have a cap problem. The op asked and interesting question "what if we move Krecji", that's all. The question has been asked about Marchand, about Chara, about Kelly, Eriksson, Boychuck, etc... Nobody's saying they hate these guys, they're all simply asking "what can we do to make our team better". I guarantee our GM has asked that question about all our players (as I'm sure every GM has). I think the trade of Seguin one year ago proves that point.

Whether I agree or not, I think it's interesting to hear the different points of view.

 

[BergyWho37]

The argument on the flip side though is you could get a good return for DK and thus possibly provide Bergy/Yeti/Spooner(3rd line C) with better wings. Even by adding 1 wing it would allow the 3rd line with Eriksson/Smith or new guy.

Who is going to play 3rd line RW with Kelly-Yeti provided we even have Kelly next season?

Again you've made the most important position weaker .. I get ragged on at times cause I bash our RW a little and I'm not saying they suck just that there not what they could be and for this reason Krejci gets dumped on

Bergy always gets a free pass witch is fine but nobody mentions the high octane linemates he has

Who has ever forced Krech up ice ..Horton, Iggy, Ryder again not saying they suck but where's the octane ? Love Loooch but often needs to be poked before he wakes up and then he force the puck up ice

Can't remember off the top of my head but how much time did Kessel get with him ? IF basically none then how about Segs ? Basically none
True goal scores with speed that could have helped Krech IMO plus forced Lucic to skate harder more often.

This has nothing to do with trading Krejci ... Spooner or Yeti in 2 yrs with ice time shared at centre on the 3rd line will tell you a lot more what your getting

 

[iReckless]

DK is a great player, but if trading him allows us to get better than I'm all for it. DK isn't as good as many are making him out to be. I think Spooner can do the same thing as DK can if not better, because of his speed.

 

[TD Charlie]

DK is a great player, but if trading him allows us to get better than I'm all for it. DK isn't as good as many are making him out to be. I think Spooner can do the same thing as DK can if not better, because of his speed.

I think I feel confident in saying on behalf of the rest of Earth, "no. Spooner is not and will never be better than Krejci"

 

[Bruwinz37]

DK is a great player, but if trading him allows us to get better than I'm all for it. DK isn't as good as many are making him out to be. I think Spooner can do the same thing as DK can if not better, because of his speed.

You think Spooner can do what Krejci does? Did you honestly just post that?

Do you try to make less and less sense each time you post? It's getting ridiculous.

 

[Rumpy]

Who knows what it will look like.

Krejci- Lucic- Eriksson/Smith
Bergeron- Marchand- Eriksson/Smith
Spooner- Koklachev- Paille/Fraser

There are options. Do they look sexy? No. Can they be effective? Maybe yes, maybe no.

I also believe that the system needs to open up a bit. No a full philosophical change. But allow your wings a bit more east-west movement. I believe Seguin sad the Dallas system was bit of fresh air, as he had full freedom of movement. Eriksson struggled with what is a fairly strict lane skating philosophy.

Just my 2 cents.

Later

Whoa is it 2004?

If it wasn't for the names in the line up I'd have assumed this thread was bumped.

Good to see you back around!

 

[KrejciMVP]

DK is a great player, but if trading him allows us to get better than I'm all for it. DK isn't as good as many are making him out to be. I think Spooner can do the same thing as DK can if not better, because of his speed.

led the team in points, plus minus, and assists last year. Not too shabby at all.

 

[BergyWho37]

Krecji haters? Who here says they hate Krecji?

The Bruins have a cap problem. The op asked and interesting question "what if we move Krecji", that's all. The question has been asked about Marchand, about Chara, about Kelly, Eriksson, Boychuck, etc... Nobody's saying they hate these guys, they're all simply asking "what can we do to make our team better". I guarantee our GM has asked that question about all our players (as I'm sure every GM has). I think the trade of Seguin one year ago proves that point.

Whether I agree or not, I think it's interesting to hear the different points of view.

4 years straight he's been dealt by many many fans on HF boards ...this year it's only about cap issues lol. Even after he trades Seguin

 

[Alicat]

I think I feel confident in saying on behalf of the rest of Earth, "no. Spooner is not and will never be better than Krejci"

Amen to that!

 

[Latrappe]

If Soderberg wants 6M then you trade him and keep DK at 7M. I personally think that's a no brainer.

I think you can get DK on a deal similar to Bergeron's and probably get Soderberg on a shorter term-shorter money deal around 4-5M per year. 6M is just too much for him, especially if you can keep DK for 7 or less.

At some point you're going to need to make some difficult decisions, but I think it's best to get these guys signed and then trade them if need be. Guys like DK, Soderberg and Boychuk are easily traded.

Why on earth Soderberg would command a 6 per salary? It's more realistic to think that Krejci will command between 6.5-7. For the Bruins, the real dilemma is which of Krejci or Lucic they need to re-sign the most. If they elect to re-sign Lucic, then Soderberg and Spooner become your option. Honestly, i don't see the Bruins trading Lucic under any circonstances...

 

[Bruwinz37]

Why on earth Soderberg would command a 6 per salary? It's more realistic to think that Krejci will command between 6.5-7. For the Bruins, the real dilemna is which of Krejci or Lucic they need to re-sign the most. If they elect to re-sign Lucic, then Soderberg and Spooner become your option. Honestly, i don't see the Bruins trading Lucic under any circonstances...

Did you miss the recent free agency signings?

 

[KrejciMVP]

Why on earth Soderberg would command a 6 per salary? It's more realistic to think that Krejci will command between 6.5-7. For the Bruins, the real dilemma is which of Krejci or Lucic they need to re-sign the most. If they elect to re-sign Lucic, then Soderberg and Spooner become your option. Honestly, i don't see the Bruins trading Lucic under any circonstances...

If Pouliot can get 5 mill, Soderberg can get 6 mill easy. Teams will pay.

 

[TD Charlie]

Why on earth Soderberg would command a 6 per salary? It's more realistic to think that Krejci will command between 6.5-7. For the Bruins, the real dilemma is which of Krejci or Lucic they need to re-sign the most. If they elect to re-sign Lucic, then Soderberg and Spooner become your option. Honestly, i don't see the Bruins trading Lucic under any circonstances...

If you have to pick one at 6.5-7, I choose Krejci. Barring a trade for a cheaper and more proven top line center, you have to keep DK

 

[iReckless]

It's premature to say Spooner can't do what DK can do if you never seen him on the same line with Lucic and someone like Iginla. Spooner was 2nd in Providence in assists at 35 and only played 49 out of 80+ games with them. I know everyone is high on DK cause he is a good player, but we have no cap space right now.

 

[Alicat]

It's premature to say Spooner can't do what DK can do if you never seen him on the same line with Lucic and someone like Iginla. Spooner was 2nd in Providence in assists at 35 and only played 49 out of 80+ games with them. I know everyone is high on DK cause he is a good player, but we have no cap space right now.

David Krejci plays a 200ft game. Ryan Spooner does not.

David Krejci is far and away a better player than Ryan Spooner will ever be.

 

[Latrappe]

David Krejci plays a 200ft game. Ryan Spooner does not.

David Krejci is far and away a better player than Ryan Spooner will ever be.

Precisely. We should wait and let Spooner play before saying that he will fail...

 

[TD Charlie]

It's premature to say Spooner can't do what DK can do if you never seen him on the same line with Lucic and someone like Iginla. Spooner was 2nd in Providence in assists at 35 and only played 49 out of 80+ games with them. I know everyone is high on DK cause he is a good player, but we have no cap space right now.

You said nothing about cap, you said flat out he is better than Krejci and whether he's played with Lucic or not it's still pretty clear who the superior talent is. The difference is actually quite staggering. Spooner isn't half the complete player Krejci is, in any spot on the ice.