Never crossed my mind. I assumed that any trade proposal I made on a hockey board would automatically have the credibility with both teams GMs to make the trade.
Are you saying that's not the case!?
Time to Sign Subban
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Never crossed my mind. I assumed that any trade proposal I made on a hockey board would automatically have the credibility with both teams GMs to make the trade.
Are you saying that's not the case!?
Habtchum*
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I don' see the benefits for Subban to get a long term deal now. Contracts numbers could be higher in 2-3 years.
Really? A guy who hasn't played in 3 years?The romancing of Markov continues.
I can admit it but regardless, Subban didn't turn our team around or do anything too special last year to warrant elite money.
Subban and Bergevin need to agree to a 2-year deal worth 4.25M$ per season.
In this shortened season, the Habs need Subban right out of the gate and Subban needs to avoid being at the core of a unnecessary distraction.
It is not in anyone's interest for this matter to drag on.
In this shortened season, the Habs need Subban right out of the gate and Subban needs to avoid being at the core of a unnecessary distraction.
It is not in anyone's interest for this matter to drag on.
lol at that Sportsnet forum quote. Meehan and his Newport Sports Management agency is based in the Toronto area.
Being a top 20 dman at 23 years old is pretty remarkable. I'm really not sure what more people can expect.
2 years. 3.5- 4 million and learn not to penalise his team so much. The guy is a pro at taking bad penalties.
I'm not saying he's bad, but elite? not yet...and doesn't deserve anything close to doughty, karlsson, weber, suter, chara. He's still young and has lots of room to improve.
Myron Gaines*
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He wont get anything close to the players that you've listed, but he wont sure as hell get 3.5M per.
PunkinDrublic*
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Exactly. There are 29 other teams that would love to have PK and some would overpay garanteed.
anything over 5 is too much. I'm just throwing some low numbers out to be a ******.
I love Subban, watched him play in Belleville, and was pumped when the habs drafted him. However, some expectations of Subban are not realistic, and until he becomes more intelligent on the ice he will always be a level below his peers.
Even if you say top 30 or 40, that's still pretty darn good. Bottom line he is already a very good player with the potential to take it up 1 maybe 2 notches.
From his current career path he looks like what you'd call a "perennial all-star". + one notch.
He also has the potential to be a perennial Norris candidate. +2 notches.
Habtchum*
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These guys all played more seasons/games than PK.
PK has only played two seasons so far.
A two year contract at 8 / 8,5. Is more than enough.
Myron Gaines*
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He needs a healthy Markov and a working PP to reach all star status. The rest is coming along just fine.
But a level under his peers is still above a TON of players, and if Markov in his prime would have been his level of "peers" and Subban is a level below him, then he's still our no. 2 D....
Intelligence is real important, but getting EVERYTHING in one guy is very rare, and when you do, you have a generational talent. Put Rod Langway's defensive awareness in PK Subban's body, and you get a GREAT ****ing HOF defensemen. But take Subban's hockey sense and Langway's athleticism and you get a player who's lesser than either of them.
PK is PK. And PK is great for what he is. He'll never be Langway and we don't need him to be. He'll be something like a poor man's Coffey, and that's totally fine by me.
If Subban can stay out of the box this year, and next, while continuing to grow...he will become a top 10 d-man and get his big check.
Until he learns to be smart on the ice, he will never reach the next level and people will wonder why we're never putting it together. I cannot remember how many times last year I was upset over stupid, stupid penalties.
Until he learns to be smart on the ice, he will never reach the next level and people will wonder why we're never putting it together. I cannot remember how many times last year I was upset over stupid, stupid penalties.
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