Time to forgive Rob Blake (History/Jersey Retirement Chat)

[ScoreZeGoals]

Being hated for this long...yeah, I'd say it's pretty unfair. Actually, childish is the better word, but we'll go with unfair for now.

So people who don't agree with your opinion are childish? Right, because that's a very mature point of view...

 

[HYORI 1963]

So people who don't agree with your opinion are childish? Right, because that's a very mature point of view...

It has nothing to do with me. In fact, let's take me out of this equation. Do you think it's a good thing to hold a grudge for 15 years over something none of us know the entire truth to??? I mean seriously, other than Taylor and Blake, who really knows what happened in the office that day?

And let's just say that the blame should ALL be on Blake. Does that mean that you should be bitter for 15 years? Shouldn't people learn to forgive others than to hold a grudge? Childish? Yeah, I think so.

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Mahatma Gandhi

 

[KINGS17]

So you're saying that you're still bitter and that the kings fans have every right to hold a grudge against Blake?

People have every right to their own opinion regarding the retirement of his #4.

I am not bitter. I don't think it is an honor Blake deserves. My life will go on just fine if the Kings decide to retire his number, but I think it is controversial and that in and of itself should tell the organization that it isn't a good idea.

I find the way you framed your question somewhat ridiculous, but I have come to expect it from you.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

It has nothing to do with me. In fact, let's take me out of this equation. Do you think it's a good thing to hold a grudge for 15 years over something none of us know the entire truth to??? I mean seriously, other than Taylor and Blake, who really knows what happened in the office that day?

And let's just say that the blame should ALL be on Blake. Does that mean that you should be bitter for 15 years? Shouldn't people learn to forgive others than to hold a grudge? Childish? Yeah, I think so.

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Mahatma Gandhi

I leave it to each individual to feel about it however they want. I respect the person who has forgiven Blake as much as I do the person who hasn't, neither it better or more childish than the other. The fact that you feel the need to label those you disagree with is very telling.

 

[deaderhead28]

Congrats to Blake and his family on the Hall,but no to retiring his number.Two cups doesn't change the facts of his past..He had no sense of loyalty to the Kings throughout his career.

 

[fsanford]

One made a physical error on a single play in a baseball game and then reacted to the hatred of an irrational fan base.

The other...well if you can't see the difference, what's the point?

This pretty much sums it up.

I used to think when Luc came onto the ice after he retired people were saying Luuuuuuuuuuuc.. But now think maybe it is actually boooooo because he turned down a lower offer from the Kings to sign with the Red Wings for more money. Turncoat

 

[KINGS17]

Absolutely, everyone has right to their opinion, and I have the right to question their opinion, do I not?

And I find your last remark especially amusing with your name calling private messages. Unlike you, I leave everything on the board.

The things that I believe need to be said in private are sent in a PM, and I don't recall ever sending you one, but if I did I am sure it was a doozy.

 

[KINGS17]

This pretty much sums it up.

Again, if you can't see the difference between the Buckner and Blake situations, you really don't have much in the way of perspective on either situation.

 

[fsanford]

Again, if you can't see the difference between the Buckner and Blake situations, you really don't have much in the way of perspective on either situation.

Actually I do, I understand people make mistakes, be they physical or in judgement
You on the other hand are choosy on what is okay to forgive and forget.

A person who is bitter nearly 15 years later over a contract dispute is questioning another persons perspective. Okay

Be sure to boo Luc the next time you see him. And Lappy too, both left for more $$

 

[deaderhead28]

I leave it to each individual to feel about it however they want. I respect the person who has forgiven Blake as much as I do the person who hasn't, neither it better or more childish than the other. The fact that you feel the need to label those you disagree with is very telling.

Amen!!!

 

[KINGS17]

Actually I do, I understand people make mistakes, be they physical or in judgement
You on the other hand are choosy on what is okay to forgive and forget.

A person who is bitter nearly 15 years later over a contract dispute is questioning another persons perspective. Okay

Be sure to boo Luc the next time you see him. And Lappy too, both left for more $$

You can forgive someone (or not really give a damn anymore) without honoring them.

There were a hell of a lot more issues between the Kings and their fans and Blake than a contract issue from 15 years ago.

And again, stop it with the bitter BS. You two in particular are trying to label anyone that doesn't agree with you point of view on this subject.

Why would I ignore you??? I may not agree with you often, but your extreme views do entertain me at times.

Please give some examples, if you can.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

He's no longer playing and people still feel the need to boo him? What is he, some terrible human being who took food from your table and money out of your pockets? I find it reprehensible that people begrudge him all this time over a contract stalemate. Goes to show you the sad state of mind that some people have.

 

[KINGS17]

He's no longer playing and people still feel the need to boo him? What is he, some terrible human being who took food from your table and money out of your pockets? I find it reprehensible that people begrudge him all this time over a contract stalemate. Goes to show you the sad state of mind that some people have.

Why, because they don't agree with you?

Is it the end of the world for Rob Blake if his #4 does go to the rafters in Staples Center? It's an honor that many fans simply don't think is deserved for many reasons.

 

[deaderhead28]

You can forgive someone (or not really give a damn anymore) without honoring them.

There were a hell of a lot more issues between the Kings and their fans and Blake than a contract issue from 15 years ago.

And again, stop it with the bitter BS. You two in particular are trying to label anyone that doesn't agree with you point of view on this subject.



Please give some examples, if you can.

Hopefully they can respect the other point of view,just because they disagree doesn't make it so...

 

[HYORI 1963]

I forgave Blake and I'm trying hard to forgive those who haven't, but it's not easy. After all, I'm just a human being y'all.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

Hi, everyone. Please refrain from any additional bickering or personal attacks. Thanks.

 

[fsanford]

So deserving of the hall of fame but not deserving to have his number retired?
Not many guys who play 10 plus years for an organization, that enter the hall of fame, don't get their number retired by said organization.

Then again, maybe the Kings organization want to avoid having some fans boo a number retirement ceremony. Media would have a field day with that and no doubt would paste King fans with a negative broad brush

 

[deaderhead28]

So deserving of the hall of fame but not deserving to have his number retired?
Not many guys who play 10 plus years for an organization, that enter the hall of fame, don't get their number retired by said organization.

Then again, maybe the Kings organization want to avoid having some fans boo a number retirement ceremony. Media would have a field day with that and no doubt would paste King fans with a negative broad brush

People have the right to disagree with the call or decision for Blakes number to be retired.When the Kings set the date for the ceremony don't be surprise people boo.They have the right as you do to cheer.

 

[fsanford]

People have the right to disagree with the call or decision for Blakes number to be retired.When the Kings set the date for the ceremony don't be surprise people boo.They have the right as you do to cheer.

I mean where does it stop, should people go to the hall of fame induction and boo Blake there too? I mean he is going in as a King right? If people feel so strongly they need to get on a plane and go boo his speech. Personally I think there are events that are off limits.
People the right to boo, but that does not always mean it is the RIGHT thing to do in every single situation.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

I mean where does it stop, should people go to the hall of fame induction and boo Blake there too? I mean he is going in as a King right? If people feel so strongly they need to get on a plane and go boo his speech. Personally I think there are events that are off limits.
People the right to boo, but that does not always mean it is the RIGHT thing to do in every single situation.

I'm actually organizing a charter flight to do just that. Then I'm going to hire a sky writer to write "booooooooooo" over the HHOF the day of his ceremony.

 

[tsanuri]

I'm actually organizing a charter flight to do just that. Then I'm going to hire a sky writer to write "booooooooooo" over the HHOF the day of his ceremony.

Made out of old Blake jerseys just for good measure.

 

[fsanford]

I'm actually organizing a charter flight to do just that. Then I'm going to hire a sky writer to write "booooooooooo" over the HHOF the day of his ceremony.

Cannot argue that would be pretty epic (even though I would disagree with it in principal)

Edit: And while you are there can you also go to Timmy L's office in Toronto and boo him as well, will buy you a beer next season. 2 beers if you kick him in his tenders.. Thx.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Why, because they don't agree with you?

Is it the end of the world for Rob Blake if his #4 does go to the rafters in Staples Center? It's an honor that many fans simply don't think is deserved for many reasons.

Disagreeing with me is fine, hell, I can see why people would argue whether or not he is deserving of having his #4 retired, though it is hard to argue against him considering he is the best defenseman in team history (though I foresee Doughty taking that title when all is said and done).

What I find sad is those who still persist on booing the man. Think of what his wife and kids think when they see their husband/dad being booed by these ingrates who feel like Blake owes something to them. That is what rubs me the wrong way. That is what I strongly disagree with.

And I'm sure most if not all of these people have no clue how much work Blake has done in the community or the years of work he has put in to growing youth hockey in SoCal with the junior Kings program.

 

[Dawdler]

any animosity that I had for Blake and even McSorley was washed away by this

Whatever the organization feels they need to do, to keep the winning culture they have now, I'm all for it.

and with all the bickering and infighting here you'd think the Kings got bounced by the Sharks and are not a 2 time Stanley Cup Champion.

 

[Face Wash]

To anyone's recollection has a team captain in any sport ever dropped the captaincy & still had their number retired by that team?