Player Discussion Tim Stützle - L̶W̶/C - Part V

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Alf Silfversson

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Yea but there was a much easier and more effective pass available.

He's also not great defensively. His skating and tenacity are good defensive assets but his defensive thinking and reads are pretty bad.

Still young tho

I agree he should have feathered it through to Stü but he had made his mind up before Tim was even close to open. Sure it (and he) lacks a bit of imagination but he tried something different. I don't mind that so much.
 

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He shouldn't be playing with star talents.

He can create offense himself with his speed, but he doesn't have the IQ, playmaking ability, hands and shot to be an effective complimentary guy.

3rd line LW is where he'll thrive.

He's only 22 with a lot of potential to grow. Let's stop calling quits on players when they're not even entering their prime.
 

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He shouldn't be playing with star talents.

He can create offense himself with his speed, but he doesn't have the IQ, playmaking ability, hands and shot to be an effective complimentary guy.

3rd line LW is where he'll thrive.
He just played his 100th game. He is 22 lets give him a minute to play a couple games. He has shown flashes, the more reps he gets the better he will get. He can play at a high tempo and thats imprtant for Stutzle. I like this line lets give it a shot.
 

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He just played his 100th game. He is 22 lets give him a minute to play a couple games. He has shown flashes, the more reps he gets the better he will get. He can play at a high tempo and thats imprtant for Stutzle. I like this line lets give it a shot.

Agreed. 22 year olds are rarely a finished product. Formenton, to me, will be the perfect affordable 3rd member of a 2nd line. He brings something that almost no one in the NHL can bring. And he's likely going to score 16-19 goals in his first full season.

Gotta give him a chance, IMO.
 
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Stuztle competitiveness is off the charts - he rises to challenges. For everything he shows skill wise he’s got a competitiveness you only see in elite players like Kucherov, Crosby, Marchand, Bergeron.

Without Elite skill and competitiveness combined in your top players you can’t win a Cup. It’s the #2 ingredient to winning 16W after goaltending
 

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Stuztle competitiveness is off the charts - he rises to challenges. For everything he shows skill wise he’s got a competitiveness you only see in elite players like Kucherov, Crosby, Marchand, Bergeron.

Without Elite skill and competitiveness combined in your top players you can’t win a Cup. It’s the #2 ingredient to winning 16W after goaltending
Agreed. People complain (rightfully) about his complaining/playing to the refs, but I genuinely think it's because he hates losing.
 

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Agreed. People complain (rightfully) about his complaining/playing to the refs, but I genuinely think it's because he hates losing.

Yup, I have compared it to early Crosby(who was notably worse). Crosby's nick name was Cry baby for like first 5-6 seasons of his career.

Just two fiery young guys who are extremely competitive and trying to get their due while still being physically disadvantaged.
 
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So many were adament he was a winger, I always thought his skillset screamed center. Glad to see him thriving as a pivot.
I thought centre before he played a game and eventually was worried he would be a winger. HmYoung player development can be a roller coaster
 

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I thought centre before he played a game and eventually was worried he would be a winger. HmYoung player development can be a roller coaster

I was worried they were going to be so damn stubborn and shoehorn him into being a winger even though everyone and their grandma could see he had all the tools to be an elite NHL center. Never like to see injuries, but thank god they kind of had to put Timmy in there for a while
 

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As time goes on he looks better as a center. He needs people who compliment him better than Brown and Formenton have.

Stutzle is more of a shifty player who would do better with players who can cycle the puck, find open spots for Stutzle to dish to them.

Formenton and Brown have been north-south, speed kills players and it's not the best combination for him.
 

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I agree that Formenton is panning out to be a superb 3rd liner.

I’m not sure why that bothers anyone.

You need an excellent third line to be a good playoff team.

If he’s playing with someone like Pinto, that would be great.

I doubt our top guys will be at the generational level so we’re going to need depth.
 
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Stützle dominated the World Juniors both skill wise and physically. Anyone who watched that one game against Canada where he was the best player on the ice knew from that moment that this kid was a steal of a pick.

All that was missing was time, a little experience and man-strength in order to able to translate that same effort at the WJC into regular NHL dominance.
 

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I like the Stutzle Batherson combo a lot! It's good how the Sens are going for 2 scoring lines. To be a good team, you have to have 2 lines that can score. And if Chabot or Sanderson is nearly always on the ice, look out!
 
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He shouldn't be playing with star talents.

He can create offense himself with his speed, but he doesn't have the IQ, playmaking ability, hands and shot to be an effective complimentary guy.

3rd line LW is where he'll thrive.

Agree. I can still see him playing excellent stop gap middle 6, but I can see Greig fitting in with Stutzle much better due to very high IQ on him.

Formenton-Pinto-Jospeh/Brown is the dream 3rd line to have.
 

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Tim breaking out as a centre this season is massive. He is proving he can be a great PP threat and create a ton of the rush. His ability to break the puck out with control and carry it into the offensive zone is amazing.

Compete is also high, sky is the limit for this kid. I see him as the offensive catalyst for the Sens. The #1 multi-faceted centre that a competitive team needs.

With some added strength and some work on his shot, mainly accuracy and release, he is going to be impossible to contain.
 

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So many were adamant he was a winger, I always thought his skillset screamed center. Glad to see him thriving as a pivot.
Even as a W he played like a C and that should have been enough. It was so obvious prior and then couldn't be any debate after the move - he immediately became more dangerous and any player as talented as he is should have the puck as much as possible.

We basically have 2 top lines at this point and as the top 6 rounds out on the W we will be incredibly dangerous.

I really think chasing a Wild Card spot next year is the realistic goal.
 
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OD99

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Tim breaking out as a centre this season is massive. He is proving he can be a great PP threat and create a ton of the rush. His ability to break the puck out with control and carry it into the offensive zone is amazing.

Compete is also high, sky is the limit for this kid. I see him as the offensive catalyst for the Sens. The #1 multi-faceted centre that a competitive team needs.

With some added strength and some work on his shot, mainly accuracy and release, he is going to be impossible to contain.
His absence on the PP for the 2 recent games he missed was very noticeable. Not sure why our other skilled players stopped moving but we became incredibly static.

With Stu on the half wall he curls up towards the blueline and just attacks when the pass comes so he is shooting and passing threat each time. His maturation in the 2nd half of this season is really something to behold.
 
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