Oh yeah. I usually try to figure out the days and get them straight but i goofed.
Ticket/Attendance Discussion: The Sequel
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Cypruss
Stand up for your beliefs.
I made the mistake of reading the main board thread on this subject. Don't do it.
I didn't think I could hate Habs fans more than I do but I guess there is another level.
I didn't think I could hate Habs fans more than I do but I guess there is another level.
Cypruss
Stand up for your beliefs.
The weather talking heads are calling for ~5 cm of snow in The Peg today so that will keep the crowd down, unfortunately.
drumzan
#NHLJets
- Jul 9, 2011
- 3,475
- 1,545
Attendance = 12,345
That's the stupidest attendance number I've ever heard in my life! That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
What was the attendance tonight? 1-2-3-4-5? That's amazing. I've got the same combination on my luggage!
That's the stupidest attendance number I've ever heard in my life! That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
What was the attendance tonight? 1-2-3-4-5? That's amazing. I've got the same combination on my luggage!
razorsedge
Registered User
Despite the soft attendance, I think that Winnipeggers have a lot of pride in having an NHL team. I would run a marketing campaign that caters to that. I like to think that was the idea behind the "Forever Winnipeg" campaign, but the negative imagery around the team leaving turned people off.
I would run a new campaign focused around thanking current season ticket holders. It would emphasize that season ticket holders are the backbone of the team. That way people will feel good buying season tickets even if it does not make financial sense to do so right now.
TNSE needs to shift its corporate culture to make season ticket holders feel like royalty. You can't please everyone, but you can gloss over unhappiness with corporate policies with the right attitude. TNSE should have special events for season ticket holders that make them feel valued and part of something special. A big soiree with the season tickets holders, ownership, management and the players seems like a neat idea.
TNSE should focus on trying to win over businesses season ticket holders. Use soft attendance to comp tickets and offer incentives to new season ticket holders. Have ticket features or promotions that make a business case for season tickets. Examples include tying them together with advertising and offering printed tickets that can be more easily given away.
TNSE should also focus on past season ticket holders. It is clear that there any many former season tickets holders that still love the team, but feel alienated by TNSE. Any overture whatsoever to fence mending could go a long way.
I would run an aggressive season ticket campaign until all season tickets are sold and there is a waitlist. TNSE should make its goal clear and post regular updates. Once tickets start selling, it could start snowballing where more businesses and individuals want to get on board. Even if TNSE has to discount tickets a bit for larger commitments, rebuilding the base and recreating energy around the team will pay dividends in the long term.
Just my $0.02.
I would run a new campaign focused around thanking current season ticket holders. It would emphasize that season ticket holders are the backbone of the team. That way people will feel good buying season tickets even if it does not make financial sense to do so right now.
TNSE needs to shift its corporate culture to make season ticket holders feel like royalty. You can't please everyone, but you can gloss over unhappiness with corporate policies with the right attitude. TNSE should have special events for season ticket holders that make them feel valued and part of something special. A big soiree with the season tickets holders, ownership, management and the players seems like a neat idea.
TNSE should focus on trying to win over businesses season ticket holders. Use soft attendance to comp tickets and offer incentives to new season ticket holders. Have ticket features or promotions that make a business case for season tickets. Examples include tying them together with advertising and offering printed tickets that can be more easily given away.
TNSE should also focus on past season ticket holders. It is clear that there any many former season tickets holders that still love the team, but feel alienated by TNSE. Any overture whatsoever to fence mending could go a long way.
I would run an aggressive season ticket campaign until all season tickets are sold and there is a waitlist. TNSE should make its goal clear and post regular updates. Once tickets start selling, it could start snowballing where more businesses and individuals want to get on board. Even if TNSE has to discount tickets a bit for larger commitments, rebuilding the base and recreating energy around the team will pay dividends in the long term.
Just my $0.02.
nobody imp0rtant
Registered pessimist
- May 23, 2018
- 10,933
- 18,277
If it doesn't make financial sense, you shouldn't buy season tickets for any reason but especially if you're only doing it because you got the warm fuzzies from an attaboy directed your way.
- Mar 10, 2010
- 35,544
- 33,825
I don’t think I fully agree with @nobody imp0rtant. Never underestimate the ego of a business owner (my tribe).
I think you might be onto something here.
I was just looking at the threads pertaining to this subject on the league and business of hockey sections and find such an irrational deep seated hatred or disdain of Winnipeg that boggles my mind. As well as the threads of our opponents on a game day. Not the team, but the city. I am really proud of my city and this angers me.
JetsFan815
Replacement Level Poster
- Jan 16, 2012
- 19,666
- 25,698
To be honest on tv, it did not look like there were 4000 empty seats tonight either. They wouldn't lie about these counts, would they?
A lot of the empty seats are in the 300 level which you don't really see on tv.
nobody imp0rtant
Registered pessimist
- May 23, 2018
- 10,933
- 18,277
I think @macmaroon should add predicted attendance for the home games in the game prediction threads. Closest to the actual attendance without going over gets a bonus point.
I'll go with 11,599.
Granted, we didn't get a lot of entrants but...
I win! I win! I win!
Again, it's ticketmaster not showing all the actual available blue dots/unsold seats that are available. There might only be 1000 or 1500 blue dots showing on ticketmaster leading up to the game, but the reality is there are closer to 3-4000 seats unsold. I suspect ticketmaster at the behest of True North possibly is doing this to create a sense of limited supply.
NHL attendance is always reported as tickets sold/distributed, never as butts in seats.
Creating a false sense of scarcity is exactly why they do it. If you think there are less seats available you are less likely to wait until a later date to buy. They are trying to create a fear of missing out.
jetsmooseice
Up Yours Robison
- Feb 20, 2020
- 1,937
- 2,505
100% this. Teams with poor attendance do it all the time. I recall when Ticketmaster first rolled out the 'select your own seat' blue dot maps people would have a good laugh at Florida, Atlanta, Phoenix, etc. where you'd see many sections that were almost totally empty. Eventually Ticketmaster wised up and realized it wasn't good for business to be so transparent. So now there is a smattering of tickets available.
Another good example of this is the Toronto Argonauts, their stadium is seldom ever more than half full for games, but if you look at Ticketmaster you'll never see more than a few hundred blue dots at most.
CorgisPer60
Barking at the net
FFHockey
Registered User
On that front, my sense has been through the years that out of all the Original 6 teams, the Rangers seem to have the weakest Winnipeg support.
I don't know if it's FOMO that they're trying to trigger. Maybe more a sense for prospective buyers that the arena won't be a ghost town?
Cypruss
Stand up for your beliefs.
Granted, we didn't get a lot of entrants but...
I win! I win! I win!
You were 299 away. Great guess!
I was only 171 away. Unless you use the price is right model that guesses MUST be LOWER, then yes, you win
cheswick
Non-registered User
You can use:
document.querySelectorAll(".is-available").length;
in your browsers console to see exactly how many seats are available on ticketmaster.
For example the next home game vs Nashville is showing 2508 available. Thats both resale and original. Definitely doesn't jive with announced attendance figures.
Leafs game is showing 1735 available and habs 1872 as a comparison.
Channelcat
Unhinged user
True. I'd say even teams like Pitt and PHI are bigger draws.
