Blue Jays Discussion: Thus Endth the 2016 Season..

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Shimso

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Not sure I like him going to the top of the lineup.

He draws the walk (assuming pitches out of the strike zone aren't called strikes), and JD/EE/Tulo can move him up or bring him in. I'm happy with it.
 

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What the guy is asking is almost impossible to enforce. I understand what he's trying to achieve, I don't agree with the logo or name either but he's asking the impossible right now. There is no way for Rogers to not air the logo, and no way for them to keep it out of the building today. The feed is no even controlled by Rogers.

I agree to an extent, and it's complicated by the tight timeline. I think it would have had a greater chance of succeeding and being enforced had it been announced a week ago when we found out the two teams would be playing each other instead of at the last second.

MLB seems to be handling it really well, oddly enough: “We would welcome a thoughtful and inclusive dialogue to address these concerns outside the context of litigation. Given the demands for completing the League Championship Series in a timely manner, MLB will defend Cleveland's right to use their name that has been in existence for more than 100 years."

Seems fair.
 

JS19

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"They're just a hit/miss Dongz team" is getting to be a pretty tired meme. Yes, they have power in the line-up, but people are hilariously missing just how well Cleveland's pitchers were in shutting down the hitting line-up by forcing them to hit outside their comfort zone.
 

SpezDispenser

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I believe in Martin. Incoming monster dong.

He had a tough year, besides the one blazing hot month. Maybe I can 'Tulo' Martin and say he sucks and Martin can start smashing 'ding'ers, which is what I assume you meant lol
Martin in the 5 spot was the norm up until a couple games ago.

And I'll take Martin at 5 and Zeke at 8 over Martin at 6 and Zeke at 1 any day.

I guess...so much potential for double plays there and stranded runners. I hope he can start hitting, but Pillar would at least have the potential to not hit into DPs.
 

SpezDispenser

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Ontario Superior Court rules dismisses injunction application. No ban for now on Cleveland name and logo.

Is this the meathead architect Cardinal or whatever who tried this? Or is this a different set of people with too much time on their hands?
 

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He had a tough year, besides the one blazing hot month. Maybe I can 'Tulo' Martin and say he sucks and Martin can start smashing 'ding'ers, which is what I assume you meant lol


I guess...so much potential for double plays there and stranded runners. I hope he can start hitting, but Pillar would at least have the potential to not hit into DPs.
Stop questioning the man and raise your dongers.
 

hockeywiz542

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what jose bautista inferred to reporters on saturday is technically right: In the first two games of the american league championship series, he and his teammates were getting fewer favourable borderline calls from umpires — if you believe the math behind the analytics platform trumedia’s calculations on the subject.

According to espn, trumedia’s math shows the blue jays got more strikes called against them on pitches thrown in parts of the zone, during specific counts wherein there is only a 25 percent or less chance that these pitches actually get called strikes — on average.

That’s a mouth full, isn’t it? I mean, i feel like you could make an argument with math like that to justify any batch of numbers.

Basically, it’s a stat-heavy way of saying the averages went against the jays, over two games, on about seven pitches. And those averages are based on results from the “average†pitcher, which one could immediately argue that (at least) corey kluber and andrew miller are not.


i don’t know about you, but, i’d much rather stay quiet and focus on hitting the next pitcher than make any kind of insinuation about how the game or the umpires are treating me unfairly. Especially in the alcs, when there is zero time or appetite for excuses among fans, and not with such a shaky argument.

Unfortunately, when bautista says that he can’t comment on umpiring and that the media should look into certain “circumstances†about the jays’ recent inability to hit indians’ pitching, let alone score, he has - given the alternative of simply remaining silent - pointed the finger elsewhere and made an ugly excuse.
 

TootooTrain

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Every couple of months Jose says something, and every time people act like it's the first time he's voiced his opinion colourfully. I guess I'm numb to it.

Hopefully this offense adjusts in some manor.
 

Lightsol

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Every couple of months Jose says something, and every time people act like it's the first time he's voiced his opinion colourfully. I guess I'm numb to it.

Hopefully this offense adjusts in some manor.

I'd say the Jays have a legit beef, considering how downright AWFUL some of the strike calls have been in this series... especially when Andrew Miller is in the game.
 

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I feel a lot more confident in our chances to come back than last year because we don't have Dickey going in game 4. Win tonight and we're back in business.
 

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I agree to an extent, and it's complicated by the tight timeline. I think it would have had a greater chance of succeeding and being enforced had it been announced a week ago when we found out the two teams would be playing each other instead of at the last second.

MLB seems to be handling it really well, oddly enough: “We would welcome a thoughtful and inclusive dialogue to address these concerns outside the context of litigation. Given the demands for completing the League Championship Series in a timely manner, MLB will defend Cleveland's right to use their name that has been in existence for more than 100 years."

Seems fair.

So are these same people going to try to stop the New York Yankees from using their derogratory term? Just look up what a Yankee is, and then make your own decisions if it is not like Indian/Braves/Redskins. But God forbid, we do anything that refers to Whites in the same fashion.
 
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