Value of: Thomas Chabot to MTL

[SensNation613]

Well that didnt take long before some Sens fans got angry other teams fans are interested in their prospect

It's not anger, there's just nothing that would interest us other than Sergachev. Chabot is our best D prospect, we will most likely lose Methot due to the expansion draft and Phaneuf is 31. We have no youth coming up on LD but our RD is very strong with Karlsson, Ceci & Wideman. I wouldn't take McCarron+Scherbak for Chabot because there's no pressing need for prospects up front. Sergachev is the only player that makes sense for us unless we package Chabot+ for Pacioretty as LW is our only other need right now. We aren't good trading partners whatsoever. Montreal fans have every right to be frustrated that we're asking for Sergachev but that's the only player that makes sense. No interest in Beaulieu either because we'd have to protect him in the draft.

 

[Legend123]

If draft position is how you judge prospects 2 years after they were drafted, then your hockey evaluation skills are extremely poor.

Watch the guy play. He's undoubtedly a better prospect than every d prospect you mentioned except Sergachev. Not sure why you're bringing up Weber and Petry.

And you know for a fact that Beaulieu is going to be for sure better than Chabot for his entire career? Great, can you let me know next week's lottery numbers too.

btw i only mentioned Theodore and Sergechev as D prospects and we can both agree both are better, yes?

 

[Treb]

pretty much this yes...

McCarron+Scherbak or Sergachev+... so it's up to you guys

Sergachev would already be a huge overpayment. Sergachev+ for Chabot would be the equivalent of Petry for Karlsson.

 

[Legend123]

It's not anger, there's just nothing that would interest us other than Sergachev. Chabot is our best D prospect, we will most likely lose Methot due to the expansion draft and Phaneuf is 31. We have no youth coming up on LD but our RD is very strong with Karlsson, Ceci & Wideman. I wouldn't take McCarron+Scherbak for Chabot because there's no pressing need for prospects up front. Sergachev is the only player that makes sense for us unless we package Chabot+ for Pacioretty as LW is our only other need right now. We aren't good trading partners whatsoever. Montreal fans have every right to be frustrated that we're asking for Sergachev but that's the only player that makes sense. No interest in Beaulieu either because we'd have to protect him in the draft.

Counter offer: Juulsen+ for Stone

 

[Stuzchuk]

Counter offer: Juulsen+ for Stone

just a head's up... a MTL fan have started the tread and we're just stating a fact that the only potentially top four defenseman that we have in our system is not moving... dont take it on us, take it on your fanbase please

 

[Sarcastic]

just a head's up... a MTL fan have started the tread and we're just stating a fact that the only potentially top four defenseman that we have in our system is not moving... dont take it on us, take it on your fanbase please

Get out with that garbage and man up. You should be proud to help the Canadiens become a better team at the Senators expense. It makes all the sense in the world that the Senators should make their system and team weaker in order to help the Canadiens become stronger overall. If you can't see through this then you're not a real hockey fan.

 

[SensNation613]

Counter offer: Juulsen+ for Stone

If Chabot+ for Pacioretty is the only thing you understood from my reply

Get out with that garbage and man up. You should be proud to help the Canadiens become a better team at the Senators expense. It makes all the sense in the world that the Senators should make their system and team weaker in order to help the Canadiens become stronger overall. If you can't see through this then you're not a real hockey fan.

"Here are all our lesser pieces, you can pick 2-3 of them in exchange for Chabot and if you ask for anything else then you're delusional"
"We have too many prospects that will score 15-20 goals as it's our strength so you can have 2-3 of them"

 

[Legend123]

just a head's up... a MTL fan have started the tread and we're just stating a fact that the only potentially top four defenseman that we have in our system is not moving... dont take it on us, take it on your fanbase please

just being realistic with unrealistic proposals

 

[Legend123]

Get out with that garbage and man up. You should be proud to help the Canadiens become a better team at the Senators expense. It makes all the sense in the world that the Senators should make their system and team weaker in order to help the Canadiens become stronger overall. If you can't see through this then you're not a real hockey fan.

I doubt Chabot makes us a better team, keep him, we keep to our plans and its a win win.

 

[93LEAFS]

I know Pronman had Chabot ahead of Sergachev, and that is the only prospect ranking done since the draft by a major publication. Granted, Pronman was lower on Sergachev then most entering the draft.

 

[Halla]

If the habs had a guy like Chabot, they would want more than a Mccarron or Scherbak + type of deal.

 

[Brock Radunske]

This is pure speculation because its unlikely the Sens wants to trade him, but if we're looking on a value point of view what Thomas Chabot would cost Montréal?

Im thinking maybe Mike McCarron? Or a package deal of Scherbak and Lernout?

Im asking because he could play with Weber right now I believe, and be a huge part of our blueline in the future with Beaulieu, Sergachev, Juulsen and Pateryn

I doubt there is a deal to be made since Montreal only has 1 A prospect (Serg) and he is worth more than Chabot. A couple B prospects like Scherbak and MacCarron probably won't cut it for Ottawa.

 

[Mike Hasselhoffman]

No deal to be made here.
Ottawa will want Sergachev for Chabot, Montreal won't trade Sergachev, phone call over.

 

[1dreamof1cup]

Why would the habs ever want to trade for Chabot?? A mid-late first rounder. I wouldnt pay more than McCarron. We already have Beaulieu to do what Chabot will ever do. A better prospect, better junior numbers, etc.
We're stacked on the D for the future. Weber, Sergechev, Beaulieu, Juulsen, Pateryn, Petry all good for this year and/or next year. Then the habs got good D prospects.
If the habs wanna go after a good D prospect, they go after Theodere and not Chabot. Theodore is alot more NHL ready and much better imo.

Not at all lol.

 

[Moose Head]

I know Pronman had Chabot ahead of Sergachev, and that is the only prospect ranking done since the draft by a major publication. Granted, Pronman was lower on Sergachev then most entering the draft.

Sergachev won best dman award in the OHL and is a year younger and in a significantly better league than Chabot. Chabot is a comparable to Juulsen, not Sergachev who is on a significantly higher level,

 

[TT1]

I know Pronman had Chabot ahead of Sergachev, and that is the only prospect ranking done since the draft by a major publication. Granted, Pronman was lower on Sergachev then most entering the draft.

Thats nice for Pronman, 20 OHL coaches have Sergachev as the best dman in the league (at 60%, 2nd place has 15%) and he's tied for 2nd as the best overall player.. who's opinion carries more weight? A single internet scout or 20 OHL coaches who actually watch all these players play at ice level?

Sergachev for Chabot is an easy no for us.. and as a Sens fan Chabot for McCarron+ or Juulsen+ is also an easy no. Don't think theres a deal to be made.

pretty much this yes...

McCarron+Scherbak or Sergachev+... so it's up to you guys

McCarron + Scherbak for Chabot, easy yes.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Sergachev and Chabot are both grade A prospects. I like them both

If I had a choice I would take Sergachev.

 

[Moose Head]

No he isnt. Chabot is way better than Juulsen and on oar with Sergachev, like I said before he wouldve been in the Juolevi,Sergachev,Chychrun discussion if he was in this oast draft.

Actually no. He wasn't in this draft and performed at a lower level despite being older .

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Actually no. He wasn't in this draft and performed at a lower level despite being older .

How did he perform at a lower level?

 

[Benjamin]

Sergachev and Chabot are both grade A prospects. I like them both

If I had a choice I would take Sergachev.

Same.

This thread was a good laugh. Over reactions all over the place.

 

[Moose Head]

How did he perform at a lower level?

Sergachev, younger, won the best dman award in the O, a better league.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Sergachev, younger, won the best dman award in the O, a better league.

I see so if Bobby Orr played in the Q, Sergachev would be better because he won an award in the O...

Makes perfect sense

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Ottawa apparently wasn't willing to move Chabot as the central piece for Drouin, that tells you something. With that in mind we're talking from a point of realism, none of your proposals are anything close to getting it done.

Teams don't just give up near NHL ready 19 year old defenders. There's like no reason to do that....unless you're getting Scott Gomez back....(sorry I had to)

But seriously, teams don't give those types of players up. It makes zero sense for Ottawa to trade him for another forward prospect. Ottawa especially won't give him up because there is a significant chance they could lose Methot in the expansion draft. Assuming Chabot develops as he projects, the Sens badly need to keep him.

 

[ottawa]

not the point... We dont care about this part

Chabot is the only DMan that we have that have top 4 pairing.. to get him you'll give us what WE want or GTFO

This makes literally no sense...Sergachev is a better prospect than Chabot, he is arguable a better player than him right now, he has better potential too.

To ask for Sergachev+ is laughable...it should be Sergachev for Chabot+

 

[Legend123]

funny hearing those last few posts. I would take McCarron and Juulsen over Chabot. Chabot went 18th in 2015 and likely would have gone close to that in 2016.