Player Discussion Thomas Chabot (D) Part 2
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If only we had excellent D coaches.
Chabot plays a soft passive game like Phillips used to play. There is no "nasty" in either of them. No player on the ice fears having to deal with them.
Chabot plays a soft passive game like Phillips used to play. There is no "nasty" in either of them. No player on the ice fears having to deal with them.
Pinto looked a little slow and not involved physically in the last game. He obviously has some sort of injury which hopefully will not keep him out of games.
Plus he needs to play a more physical game, not the pansy style he has played in the past. Proper D coaching is very much required.
Plus he needs to play a more physical game, not the pansy style he has played in the past. Proper D coaching is very much required.
I don't see the benefit as "someone who can cover for him" when he makes a mistake; I see it as having a competent defensive partner that he can play D with and pass the puck to when necessary and who can play a solid defensive game.
Chabot should not be making many "mistakes" that result in odd-man rushes against the Sens. He makes a few too many "mistakes" now. Good coaching could correct that.
Fabbro could be had for cheap as well. The Preds aren't in the best cap situation and likely can't afford to keep him next year with Saaros' extension kicking in, dead cap from Duchene buyout increasing, Evangelista and Tomasino needing new deals and only Nyquist coming off the book.
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Lots of ridiculousness has been said about Chabot these last several years.
I will just note that we played two extremely strong games two nights in a row, and on both nights Chabot was our best defenseman, arguably our best player each night, swallowed up just under 50 mins combined, and just absolutely dominated the ice.
This man is absolutely capable of being a #1D and if Sanderson is not playing his best hockey, as is the case right now, that is exactly what he can be for us. Obviously a ton of props go to Jensen and its not fair to judge Sanderson in a vacuum right now... but TC absolutely deserves his flowers.
I will just note that we played two extremely strong games two nights in a row, and on both nights Chabot was our best defenseman, arguably our best player each night, swallowed up just under 50 mins combined, and just absolutely dominated the ice.
This man is absolutely capable of being a #1D and if Sanderson is not playing his best hockey, as is the case right now, that is exactly what he can be for us. Obviously a ton of props go to Jensen and its not fair to judge Sanderson in a vacuum right now... but TC absolutely deserves his flowers.
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He is doing things harder this season. More urgency in his skating, passes and clears have purpose. In the past he was floating his passes or clears too often. Nice start to the season for Chabby!
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Nothing ridiculous has been said about Chabot. He's been complete shit for so long now in addition to being overworked. This was never a question about his ability, he was expected to be our #1 guy. The longer his poor play went on, the concern (which was completely valid) was whether or not he was able to rid himself of the DJ poison. He's looking great so far though.
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Uh huh.
The whole team is playing with urgency and it radiates through everyone. Just like the team cheating, playing softly and lazily for years radiated through everyone. As the guy who played the most by far, and clearly became exhausted, Chabot definitely became the worst/most glaring offender.
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Just reading through this thread and picking up on a few comments. I’m not sure you can expect Chabot to be a physical, nasty or punishing defenseman. Would also think comparing him to Phillips is a bit odd.
Chabot needed a decent partner that could allow him to play his game. Our defense has been missing a piece or two for quite some time and Chabot was expected to do too much. Jensen has helped in that regard and we now have a stable 2nd unit. Can’t wait until Zub gets back with the same principle & thoughts in mind.
I think Green has them playing a stronger team D. You can see far less panic and fire drills in their play and they play with more structure.
With Yakemchuk and possibly Sebrango who is looking promising, we have a decent looking blueline going forward as well.
Chabot needed a decent partner that could allow him to play his game. Our defense has been missing a piece or two for quite some time and Chabot was expected to do too much. Jensen has helped in that regard and we now have a stable 2nd unit. Can’t wait until Zub gets back with the same principle & thoughts in mind.
I think Green has them playing a stronger team D. You can see far less panic and fire drills in their play and they play with more structure.
With Yakemchuk and possibly Sebrango who is looking promising, we have a decent looking blueline going forward as well.
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It's actually incredible that Dorion traded Dylan DeMelo for a 3rd round pick. He should have been kept all the way, it would have helped Chabot a lot
Even if the narrative has been a bit different, Chabot was actually still pretty elite in 2021-22, until he got injured. There's 2 factors people are forgetting/ignoring :
- Health : Chabot has struggled with injuries the past 2 seasons, of course it affected his play.
- DJ Dorion hockey : players assessment from that era have to be taken with a grain of salt. We finally look like a serious NHL franchise, I was talking about it last year after Dorion and DJ eventually got canned, that it would take a bit of time for the STINK to get off. It might be finally happening this season even if it was starting to look much better under Jacques Martin. They had to cleanse the mess
It's no surprise, to me at least, that Chabot looks this good on a GOOD hockey team, it's actually his first opportunity to play on a good NHL team
Even if the narrative has been a bit different, Chabot was actually still pretty elite in 2021-22, until he got injured. There's 2 factors people are forgetting/ignoring :
- Health : Chabot has struggled with injuries the past 2 seasons, of course it affected his play.
- DJ Dorion hockey : players assessment from that era have to be taken with a grain of salt. We finally look like a serious NHL franchise, I was talking about it last year after Dorion and DJ eventually got canned, that it would take a bit of time for the STINK to get off. It might be finally happening this season even if it was starting to look much better under Jacques Martin. They had to cleanse the mess
It's no surprise, to me at least, that Chabot looks this good on a GOOD hockey team, it's actually his first opportunity to play on a good NHL team
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Has been playing some of his best hockey in the last few years. Hotsam needs to keep it up
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i won't speak to the rags game but i watched him pretty close against seattle (live) and I thought he looked like shit. Half-assed efforts. Weak soft passes that were getting picked off. Soft on his assignments.
Don't know how we came up with such a different perspective on the same game.
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He's definitely been their top D the past 2 games.
Sanderson undoubtedly that guy normally/vast majority, but the past 2 Chabot has been the best we've had, very good defensively and tilting the ice completely while he was out
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It adds up completely to what I watched, posting as someone saw something completely opposite of that, which is absolutely fine and valid
I think it was obvious that Sanderson/Hamonic have been struggling and Chabot/Jensen have been outstanding the past 2, though watching live and focusing on a guy can obviously bring a different conclusion with some bias and fixation effects.
They correlate with the eye test
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I think Chabot's play has definitely warranted a lot of criticism the past two years. And I think his start to the season looked like of the same which is to say worthy of criticism
But his play has notably improved the last several games. Having Chabot play like a guy who's worth that contract is huge huge huge for this team. I'd go so far as to say if we get from Chatbot in the next 70 what we've got in the 4, we'll make the playoffs (unless we have a season ending Ullmark injury)
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He has someone to pass the puck to now and he knows it. He had Zaitsev before and that guy wasn't an option. There was like a 90% chance that Zaitsev would ice it or turn it over. The whole league knew it. So Chabot had to make a play, no matter how dangerous it was, because the alternative was worse. I think that became his norm. That was how he played with everynody. Now the team has reset that norm and he is remembering how/learning again/whatever you want to call it how to play.
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