Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

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ponder719

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Yes, I said it’s not a win-at-all-cost season, nor should it be. I’m saying there’s a difference between acknowledging that fact passively, and actually conceding to the players that an X-round draft pick is prioritized over maximizing competitiveness in the playoffs. We can argue how much that can or should affect players, but there’s a real trade off there. I don’t love signaling to young players that winning is anything less than their first priority, even though I can also understand perfectly well that it shouldn’t be the first priority this year. I think young players develop better inside organizations that are obsessed with winning. That’s the contradiction that makes rebuilding tough in practice. You have to balance the need for long-term talent and roster building with the need to mold your key young players into competitive freaks.

If you tell your players "yeah, we're moving guys, but we have faith in you to step up and show us what you can do with a bigger role and more responsibility", and their reaction is to crater the vibes in the room, get those guys the F out of the room. I want players who wholeheartedly believe that putting the game in their hands is better for the team than anyone else taking those minutes. From there, it's up to the coaches and training staff to supplement that confidence with the necessary skills to put up results.
 

BernieParent

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At 6-foot-5, Hayes can be a physical presence in a checking-line role, a complementary wing in a top-six role and a power-play presence because of his shot. He also has the size to play in the corners and the skill to set up in the slot.

What a bio for Hayes...who wrote it?
Yandle
 

bennysflyers16

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We were told this is a rebuild, and they are going to add to this fringe team so that they can remove Brink or Frost from the lineup.

And their sole goal is to meet up with the Canes or Rags in the first round LOL.

This is a much bigger mess than any of us even joked about.
 

LegionOfDoom91

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Serevalli criticized the thought of the Flyers not moving Seeler &/or Walker at the deadline on his podcast today. He said the only worse thing would be re-signing these guys to the likely prices they would require extend them.

I guess like Friedman he thinks the Flyers could be backing themselves potentially into an unfavorable situation. I guess he’s not totally convinced after potentially passing up trade value for these guys they actually walk away from them too which could put all the leverage in their contract asks. He said he likes Seeler & Walker on the current deals but not paying them $3M & $5M or more a year on lengthier terms.
 

bennysflyers16

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Walkers getting 5 yrs and 30 mill, I never would of imagined it would be that awful.

And why do some of you think the Old vet they add has to be an expiring contract ? They are all but saying this is the team, they are right there as contenders. Let's add a guy that helps this year and next year, we are right there man.
 

bennysflyers16

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Yeah this is about as bad as we hoped it wouldn’t be
Imagine our front office being so awful the players are dictating to them what their contracts will be.

We are going to miss the Fletcher days I fear.

Fla, Tampa, Sharks, Leafs, Bruins , Leafs, Canes , Bruins Fla, Rags

This is what happens after the Blues, you would have to be on meth to think this team is going to make the playoffs.
 

Adam Warlock

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Serevalli criticized the thought of the Flyers not moving Seeler &/or Walker at the deadline on his podcast today. He said the only worse thing would be re-signing these guys to the likely prices they would require extend them.

I guess like Friedman he thinks the Flyers could be backing themselves potentially into an unfavorable situation. I guess he’s not totally convinced after potentially passing up trade value for these guys they actually walk away from them too which could put all the leverage in their contract asks. He said he likes Seeler & Walker on the current deals but not paying them $3M & $5M or more a year on lengthier terms.
Im glad the media is criticisizing these clowns
 

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Walkers getting 5 yrs and 30 mill, I never would of imagined it would be that awful.

And why do some of you think the Old vet they add has to be an expiring contract ? They are all but saying this is the team, they are right there as contenders. Let's add a guy that helps this year and next year, we are right there man.
^^^this...

member when Jones said the rebuild was BS they told the fans...yahhh!!!!

#darkesttimeline....
 
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VladDrag

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Serevalli criticized the thought of the Flyers not moving Seeler &/or Walker at the deadline on his podcast today. He said the only worse thing would be re-signing these guys to the likely prices they would require extend them.

I guess like Friedman he thinks the Flyers could be backing themselves potentially into an unfavorable situation. I guess he’s not totally convinced after potentially passing up trade value for these guys they actually walk away from them too which could put all the leverage in their contract asks. He said he likes Seeler & Walker on the current deals but not paying them $3M & $5M or more a year on lengthier terms.

I'm holding off hope they they are wrong, and the Flyers will somehow look amazing by Friday PM, but I'm not holding out hope. I've done this way too many times and I always come away angry.
 

LegionOfDoom91

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Im glad the media is criticisizing these clowns

It wasn’t scathing or anything, just that they should stick to their rebuild plan. He said they’ve overachieved on the year as a whole but they haven’t really been playing well in the second half. So in his opinion it’s not really a team worth investing in & getting away from your original plan.

He thinks they should be accumulating assets & capspace still. So he said he would do a second rounder+ for Walker opposed to doing nothing or even worse in his mind signing him to an extension.
 

renberg

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I don’t think that Walker is worth $5M per either but then neither was AMac, TDA or Ristolainen. It’s a similar situation with Seeler. $3M per for a third liner? Pass. Move them and let another club deal with them.
Clubs are looking to add a guy with term for a first or second round pick. Either that or they are committed to sign them long term. Perhaps Walker could net a second rounder. Seeler a third. Laughton probably a second. Messing around and hoping for a first is a waste of time.
 

Adam Warlock

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Id love a team to offer like 2 1sts for laughton and call their bluff bc lets face it even tbat would be a no.
 

GKJ

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Serevalli criticized the thought of the Flyers not moving Seeler &/or Walker at the deadline on his podcast today. He said the only worse thing would be re-signing these guys to the likely prices they would require extend them.

I guess like Friedman he thinks the Flyers could be backing themselves potentially into an unfavorable situation. I guess he’s not totally convinced after potentially passing up trade value for these guys they actually walk away from them too which could put all the leverage in their contract asks. He said he likes Seeler & Walker on the current deals but not paying them $3M & $5M or more a year on lengthier terms.
Damn, that sucks, maybe should have actually committed to your plan.

The concept of playing out the market by dropping leaks everywhere is valid, and I don’t mind that it is a plan. I don’t think most people would mind that being a plan. The issue is that we don’t trust who is executing the plan.

Gonna be pretty awesome next year when they actually do crash because a bunch of teams behind them get their shit together.
 

Winston Wolf

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Walkers getting 5 yrs and 30 mill, I never would of imagined it would be that awful.

And why do some of you think the Old vet they add has to be an expiring contract ? They are all but saying this is the team, they are right there as contenders. Let's add a guy that helps this year and next year, we are right there man.
Don't forget the 28 team NMC for him and Seeler.
 
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