Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[LegionOfDoom91]

It was reported back around when this first all start coming out that Mete wasn’t even in attendance for the event.

 

[BernieParent]

Could make sense why they went and got Petersen as part of the Provy deal.

I'm not sure how clearly these dots connect. It seemed, at least from the trade rumours board, that Petersen was the #1 cap to be dumped in a big deal.

 

[Magua]

I don’t expect them to trade Hart even after this thing clears. I truly have no idea what their plans for goaltending are. I just know it’s not a fire sale!

 

[FlyTimmo]

I don’t expect them to trade Hart even after this thing clears. I truly have no idea what their plans for goaltending are. I just know it’s not a fire sale!

Probably pick another handful next draft.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Could still see Hart go through, esp if the deal is right, to teams that know he's cleared.

At this point, I think it's better to trade him now for his value compared to this coming year, where I could see them being even worse.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I don’t expect them to trade Hart even after this thing clears. I truly have no idea what their plans for goaltending are. I just know it’s not a fire sale!

 

[Magua]

OUT:
Provorov
DeAngelo
Hayes
Bad culture

IN:
Bonk
Walker
Petersen
Grans
2nd
6th
$3.6MM dead cap for 3 years
$1.67MM dead cap for 2 years
Winning culture

 

[iceman42]

The rumor is that there are deals on the table waiting for this announcement to come out.
Whether that is BS or not is another matter.

I am skeptical of the firesale I believe that Laughton would have been gone with the rumored offer that was turned down if this had been a fire sale. However, it was a rumor and it was light on specifics.

 

[RANKKA]

Drake Batherson - no statement

if he is 1 of them and they give out more than 1 year bans instantly try to push TK to them please

 

[Deadpool8812]

Nah, I don't believe Hart is involved

At least, I dont want to believe he was

 

[tnfrs]

if he is 1 of them and they give out more than 1 year bans instantly try to push TK to them please

I think they wait until the deadline in 2025 to move TK if they move him, he would get an enormous haul as a rental. theres also some risk trading him in the off season not knowing how the standings are shaking out. if danny waits to negotiate with bubble teams instead of contenders he can get the lowest picks back possible

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Betting full terminations and straight up bans from the NHL.

So just curious, are they legally allowed to terminate their contracts? What I mean by that, would it be similar to what the kings were able to do to get out of Mike richards contract? Or would teams be on the hook for them? Also if they're suspended/banned, would teams technically keep the rights to the players if they're ever reinstated? I'm truly not familiar with how that would work

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

So just curious, are they legally allowed to terminate their contracts? What I mean by that, would it be similar to what the kings were able to do to get out of Mike richards contract? Or would teams be on the hook for them? Also if they're suspended/banned, would teams technically keep the rights to the players if they're ever reinstated? I'm truly not familiar with how that would work

Morality clause is grounds for termination.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

That's one of my all time favorite movies, such a master piece

Morality clause is grounds for termination.

So basically just like the Mike richards ordeal with the kings

 

[RANKKA]

I think they wait until the deadline in 2025 to move TK if they move him, he would get an enormous haul as a rental. theres also some risk trading him in the off season not knowing how the standings are shaking out. if danny waits to negotiate with bubble teams instead of contenders he can get the lowest picks back possible

true but there is always risk the other way too he could get hurt, he could not have as good season next season etc. also if he does play good that could mean he puts us away from our goal of being DEAD LAST in the standings

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

So basically just like the Mike richards ordeal with the kings

Yep.

 

[tnfrs]

true but there is always risk the other way too he could get hurt, he could not have as good season next season etc. also if he does play good that could mean he puts us away from our goal of being DEAD LAST in the standings

injury concern ya ill give u that, but even if TK has a down year next year he'll still have more value when the cap starts going up than he has now and we probably wont have to retain salary since his contract is already super reasonable. i would love a last place finish but anything in the bottom 5 will be a good place this year. i dont think we're gonna score enough goals to be outside the very bottom of the league even if everyone has an amazing year.

 

[FlyerNutter]

injury concern ya ill give u that, but even if TK has a down year next year he'll still have more value when the cap starts going up than he has now and we probably wont have to retain salary since his contract is already super reasonable. i would love a last place finish but anything in the bottom 5 will be a good place this year. i dont think we're gonna score enough goals to be outside the very bottom of the league even if everyone has an amazing year.

Moving TK now is not just about trying to get extra value if they decide to do so at the deadline. As you state the risk of injury, or a less productive season is also there.

The biggest reason to move TK now is to improve the draft position. The Flyers have 2 superstars in 30 years, and seem far too content to continue to trot out lineups largely carried by vanilla secondary talent.

I get the infatuation with working hard, and trying to have the Flyers rise above expectations based on a John Tortorella work ethic. I don’t agree with it, but I get it.

They are the most boring club in the NHL, and seem destined to pick 5-10th, and somehow believe they found their war horses in that range. It’s an asinine plan for a bottom of the barrel scouting/development group.

I’d love to be told how vastly different this is from the Hextall retool. Because they moved Provorov who wanted out anyway, and haven’t signed FAs?

They have done nothing to ensure a higher grade of talent is likely to befall them. They still don’t have the gall to properly rebuild.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Moving TK now is not just about trying to get extra value if they decide to do so at the deadline. As you state the risk of injury, or a less productive season is also there.

The biggest reason to move TK now is to improve the draft position. The Flyers have 2 superstars in 30 years, and seem far too content to continue to trot out lineups largely carried by vanilla secondary talent.

I get the infatuation with working hard, and trying to have the Flyers rise above expectations based on a John Tortorella work ethic. I don’t agree with it, but I get it.

They are the most boring club in the NHL, and seem destined to pick 5-10th, and somehow believe they found their war horses in that range. It’s an asinine plan for a bottom of the barrel scouting/development group.

I’d love to be told how vastly different this is from the Hextall retool. Because they moved Provorov who wanted out anyway, and haven’t signed FAs?

They have done nothing to ensure a higher grade of talent is likely to befall them. They still don’t have the gall to properly rebuild.

because nothing has changed

 

[TheKingPin]

Im guessing the suspensions turn into banned from the NHL informally, depending on what is released. Having one of those 5 players on the team would be a PR nightmare

You’d like to think so. But the stuff they get away with is insane. Was it Karem Hunt who knocked out his SO and dragged her by the hair into and off of an elevator on camera? He messed up his carrier but is still making millions. No one seems to care about anything after a year.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

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Gritty promised to wear a Barbie outfit to Oppenheimer if he got 10k re-tweets and he kept his word.

I've really come to hate Gritty since my initial love. The embodiment of "the team is ass, management is an incompetent mess, but look a smash room!".

 

[deadhead]

They said they wouldn't tank, they're not tanking, "why aren't they tanking?"

 

[FlyerNutter]

They said they would be incompetent, are incompetent. Why are they incompetent?

 

[pooch]

They did say they were rebuilding and so far I have not seen any evidence of that.

 

[deadhead]

They did say they were rebuilding and so far I have not seen any evidence of that.

Tanking and rebuilding are not the same thing.
They have not added anyone in FA on a long-term contract.

They have (2) 1sts, (2) 2nds (JOB #51 will be awarded in August), (2) 6th rd picks in the 2024 draft.
They moved out Hayes and TDA, traded Provorov, didn't reteain Lemieux or Bellows, added Poehling (24), cleared out other contractcs.
Staal is a one year deal, Walker is a one year deal, Seeler is on a one year deal, Hathaway is a tradeable commodity. Peterson is a salary dump.

Briere inherited Atkinson (2 years), Couts (7 years), Sanheim's 8 year deal, Risto's 4 years, he's not moving on from them overnight.

I don't think Briere is finished wheeling and dealing, the whole league hit the pause button (and the pending report may be one reason).
Hextall traded Coburn and Kimmon at the TDL, then basically took three years off until the Schenn trade. Signed Weise (4 years). Traded for Filppula.
Let's check back in a year or two.