Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

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renberg

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The draft is when teams come together and fawn over acquiring young players. Getting these guys is what it's all about and the PR that goes along with it. It's not a time to make significant trades; the acquired vets would fall behind in publicity to the newbies being selected. (Does anyone in Chicago care about obtaining Corey Perry today?)
Now comes the FA season. As we know it's the time when the players rape the management for too much money and term in their new contracts. (CIP-Kevin Hayes)
When this period simmers down sensible trades can be done. This is when Briere can get decent return for the guys that he wants to move. Teams that want these guys will have come down off of what they would have had to pay for overpriced FAs and look for sensible trades.
 
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It is absolutely imperative that Sanheim is moved today before the NTC kicks in. You cannot have a 26 year-old, second pair d-man ceiling, guy around for EIGHT years at 6 million per year. Take whatever pennies you can get, if any, and cut bait on yet another CF special.
 

ajgoal

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The draft is when teams come together and fawn over acquiring young players. Getting these guys is what it's all about and the PR that goes along with it. It's not a time to make significant trades; the acquired vets would fall behind in publicity to the newbies being selected. (Does anyone in Chicago care about obtaining Corey Perry today?)
Now comes the FA season. As we know it's the time when the players rape the management for too much money and term in their new contracts. (CIP-Kevin Hayes)
When this period simmers down sensible trades can be done. This is when Briere can get decent return for the guys that he wants to move. Teams that want these guys will have come down off of what they would have had to pay for overpriced FAs and look for sensible trades.

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sigma six

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It is absolutely imperative that Sanheim is moved today before the NTC kicks in. You cannot have a 26 year-old, second pair d-man ceiling, guy around for EIGHT years at 6 million per year. Take whatever pennies you can get, if any, and cut bait on yet another CF special.

God this feels worse every time I see it spelled out. What a brutal contract.
 
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ponder719

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We haven’t heard anything about potential free agents. I have to think they’re not signing zero nhl people tomorrow. Just hope they’re signing unqualified upside guys or a veteran we can flip at the deadline.
We all know this team and its former Flyer fixation, so Radko Gudas and Wayne Simmonds, come on down!

fr, though, I wouldn't rule out Beetle Bailey and someone like Nick Holden. Someone up front, and someone on D, to fill the pointless vet leader roles vacated by JVR and Braun.
 

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We all know this team and its former Flyer fixation, so Radko Gudas and Wayne Simmonds, come on down!

fr, though, I wouldn't rule out Beetle Bailey and someone like Nick Holden. Someone up front, and someone on D, to fill the pointless vet leader roles vacated by JVR and Braun.
I wonder about Justin Holl. Caleb Jones. Kulikov. Mike Reilly now that he’s being bought out.
 
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ponder719

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I wonder about Justin Holl. Caleb Jones. Kulikov. Mike Reilly now that he’s being bought out.
All plausible. Just based on personal preference, I'd like us to check in with Joonas Donskoi and Noel Acciari, but I expect both to sign elsewhere. We might also be the rehab facility for OEL.
 
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GKJ

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All plausible. Just based on personal preference, I'd like us to check in with Joonas Donskoi and Noel Acciari, but I expect both to sign elsewhere. We might also be the rehab facility for OEL.
I think OEL ends up in Boston, he will still be too well thought of to be a reclamation project.
 

Beef Invictus

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We haven’t heard anything about potential free agents. I have to think they’re not signing zero nhl people tomorrow. Just hope they’re signing unqualified upside guys or a veteran we can flip at the deadline.

It's the former and they aren't going to be flipped.

They've done everything they can to cater to Tortorella so far, and he's said he wants more 10-12 goal PK specialists, not talent.
 

BillDineen

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CF gave Sanheim max money and term. A UFA contract by design is you get surplus value at the start in exchange for negative value at the tail end.

Maybe Sanheim rebounds and ages well and/or the cap increases enough, but getting out of that contract makes sense given the rebuild.
 

scumpup

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Meh f*** it Sanheim is the man he's gonna become best Dman in the league this year after he is in the presence of Danny Briere's penetrating gaze.
 
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Pantokrator

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CF gave Sanheim max money and term. A UFA contract by design is you get surplus value at the start in exchange for negative value at the tail end.

Maybe Sanheim rebounds and ages well and/or the cap increases enough, but getting out of that contract makes sense given the rebuild.
It would be great for Sanheim to actually play decent and then next offseason when the cap goes up, failed playoff teams want him for depth and he agrees to waive his nmc to play for a contender. Not holding my breath though...
 

sauce88

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They butchered the Sanheim situation from the beginning. They stupidly bridged him right up to his UFA year because this team couldn't figure out the best way to utilize cap space in other areas.
If they did away with the bridging and just signed him to an 8 yr deal between 4 and 5.5 mil with the contract expiring when he's 30 then he's one of the easiest contracts to move that would garner premier assets back.
Now you have a situation where he had a down year, right before an 8 year contract kicks in that expires at age 34. You might as well just swallow the contract at this point and keep him and hope he rebounds.
 

landsbergfan

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CF gave Sanheim max money and term. A UFA contract by design is you get surplus value at the start in exchange for negative value at the tail end.

Maybe Sanheim rebounds and ages well and/or the cap increases enough, but getting out of that contract makes sense given the rebuild.
The contract is of no problem to the team during a rebuild. The only issue is the NTC. Even that is debatable, as he has a number of reasons to want to leave anyway. The cap will begin to shoot up the next couple years and 6.25 won’t look very bloated.

The team has a chance now to allow Sanheim to use up a lot of ice time and get PP/PK time. There is an opportunity for the contract to look like a bargain in a couple years time and there will be a team that pays for him if they do that.

And if he really is as bad as all the haters think they should be happy to see him play more!
 
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