Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions
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FLYguy3911
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Curufinwe
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The Trotz interview was interesting in a historical sense. He talked about how long he had his eye on Kimmo, and how they were able to get him as a throw in.
Also discussed lining up with his expansion Nashville team against an Avs starting six of
Forsberg-Sakic-Deadmarsh
Bourque-Foote
Roy
He's better, but his huge contract isn't as easy to deal with for a lot of teams.
Velvet Hammer
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lol, he's not better but you can believe that if it makes you feel better. Sanheim's contract is an albatross. I would love a 2nd rounder this year for him and that may get a deal done. Don't hold your breath though.
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Curufinwe
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He scored as well as Provorov last season, and did MUCH better defensively while getting worse partners. So yeah, he is better.
LegionOfDoom91
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ASF seems to think the Flyers might get to a point where they essentially give away Sanheim to clear the contract. He doesn’t seem to think they’re trading Konecny or Laughton at this point either.
Columbus Hockey Dad
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Briere was overruled by Torts who apparently has way more control than any coach ever should. This is an enormous problem.
BillDineen
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Chuck's contract and Torts treatment murdered Sanheim's value.
The whole organization is complicit in that, really, with the way they have used him and not used him. To put it simply, it's a gang of c***s on a bike who could win the C*** Tour de France, basically.
Limeyjim
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It seems as though most of the Flyers fans on this board do not care for John Tortorella in the slightest, yet the GM and President of all Hockey Operations like Tort's and his assessments.
I have been saying for a great number of years that this roster needs to be blown up, and the core players need to be dumped. What occurred during the horrific years while Hextall then Fletcher were calling the shots have this entire franchise under the weight of a strangling salary cap woe that will take some serious chopping to weed out the problems of the contracts awarded by the previous two G.M.'s who were brutal.
It seems to me that Danny Briere-Keith Jones- and John Tortorella discussed after the end of last year's horrific ending, which players should be dealt and who should be kept.
When G.M. Briere stated that the Flyers were "open for business", that statement alone meant that no player was on the "protected" list.
When making trades to rid the team of atrocious contracts like Hayes or Sanheim, that means the return from the trades will look as though the Flyers were fleeced, but the fact of the matter is that they are truly trying to lessen the salary cap difficulties caused by the previous two G.M.'s.
Trading players who actually have some legitimate talent (Carter Hart-Scotty Laughton-Travis Konecny), will be needed if they are to secure a better level of draft picks, or a decent prospect in the exchange. That is why I am prepared to let it all happen.
I like John Tortorella, I've liked him since his time when he was the HC of the NY Rangers. I always thought of him as a Flyers coach who was with the opposition. Now that he's here I want the current management staff to listen to him and value his assessments.
Tort's has always been called a veteran's coach, but that's simply not true. He expects the most out of each veteran player, and he wants all of his players to concentrate on the complete ice surface, not just from the blue line to the goal. When Tort's sees his younger players understanding his approach, yet the vets only want to play "their" game instead of Tort's, that's where the trouble starts, and that's when Tort's benches veteran players with huge salaries.
I am ready to get rid of the veteran players to bring in young players.
Am I expecting the Flyers to be a playoff team next season? No!
However I want to see the team playing on the same page of the play book.
I'm delighted that Provorov and Hayes are gone, and I truly expect additional players to go next (especially that horrible DeAngelo, whom the the Flyers should have never acquired in the first place).
Let Briere and his management staff do their deals, and enable their HC to direct the new roster before throwing shade on this new management staff. The franchise has been bollocks for well over a decade, and it won't be corrected immediately.
Have some patience, and remember to bleed Orange & Black!
I have been saying for a great number of years that this roster needs to be blown up, and the core players need to be dumped. What occurred during the horrific years while Hextall then Fletcher were calling the shots have this entire franchise under the weight of a strangling salary cap woe that will take some serious chopping to weed out the problems of the contracts awarded by the previous two G.M.'s who were brutal.
It seems to me that Danny Briere-Keith Jones- and John Tortorella discussed after the end of last year's horrific ending, which players should be dealt and who should be kept.
When G.M. Briere stated that the Flyers were "open for business", that statement alone meant that no player was on the "protected" list.
When making trades to rid the team of atrocious contracts like Hayes or Sanheim, that means the return from the trades will look as though the Flyers were fleeced, but the fact of the matter is that they are truly trying to lessen the salary cap difficulties caused by the previous two G.M.'s.
Trading players who actually have some legitimate talent (Carter Hart-Scotty Laughton-Travis Konecny), will be needed if they are to secure a better level of draft picks, or a decent prospect in the exchange. That is why I am prepared to let it all happen.
I like John Tortorella, I've liked him since his time when he was the HC of the NY Rangers. I always thought of him as a Flyers coach who was with the opposition. Now that he's here I want the current management staff to listen to him and value his assessments.
Tort's has always been called a veteran's coach, but that's simply not true. He expects the most out of each veteran player, and he wants all of his players to concentrate on the complete ice surface, not just from the blue line to the goal. When Tort's sees his younger players understanding his approach, yet the vets only want to play "their" game instead of Tort's, that's where the trouble starts, and that's when Tort's benches veteran players with huge salaries.
I am ready to get rid of the veteran players to bring in young players.
Am I expecting the Flyers to be a playoff team next season? No!
However I want to see the team playing on the same page of the play book.
I'm delighted that Provorov and Hayes are gone, and I truly expect additional players to go next (especially that horrible DeAngelo, whom the the Flyers should have never acquired in the first place).
Let Briere and his management staff do their deals, and enable their HC to direct the new roster before throwing shade on this new management staff. The franchise has been bollocks for well over a decade, and it won't be corrected immediately.
Have some patience, and remember to bleed Orange & Black!
Hollywood Cannon
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My body is ready to superconduct massive, irrationally epic torrents of rage.
Columbus Hockey Dad
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I can see the argument for keeping TK even though I don't agree. But no one can convince me that keeping Laughton, IF they really are being offered a first and second rounder, makes any sense at all.
Hollywood Cannon
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Yet Torts isn't having a say in the roster?
BrindamoursNose
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With Torts, there's two scenarios playing out right now:
- He's coaching as if he's trying to compete still, which isn't what we want.
- He's coaching as if he's trying to step into our management after this coaching gig is done
Both are awful and I'm discouraged. If he's going to be actively killing trades whether due to how he uses players, or if he's telling Briere that they can't be traded, I'm going to slide back into a pit.
I'm horrified at the thought that if someone like Benson is at 7, Briere will pass because a dope like Torts will say so. And forget about Michkov...Torts will fine Michkov the moment he steps foot on US soil.
- He's coaching as if he's trying to compete still, which isn't what we want.
- He's coaching as if he's trying to step into our management after this coaching gig is done
Both are awful and I'm discouraged. If he's going to be actively killing trades whether due to how he uses players, or if he's telling Briere that they can't be traded, I'm going to slide back into a pit.
I'm horrified at the thought that if someone like Benson is at 7, Briere will pass because a dope like Torts will say so. And forget about Michkov...Torts will fine Michkov the moment he steps foot on US soil.
FatTugboatFlahr
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Utterly pathetic.
Kelmitchell2
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freakydallas13
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Sometimes he's not coaching at all.
Kelmitchell2
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The delusion is strong with a couple posters here
wankstifier
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This is exactly how i'm feeling today. Torts is running the show and wants this team as competitive as possible while only getting rid of players he hates.
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