Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Danko]

Preparing myself for nothing further happening. No additional 1st. No additional 2nd.

 

[the deaninator]

Sounds like Hayes told Krug to stay in St Louis

whatever. enjoy the ribs with your friends, kev.

 

[Tarpongg]

Maybe this was posted earlier… Only untouchables are Cutter… and anyone with the Torts stamp of approval

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I mean, if Ryan Leonard is Matt Tkachuk then I fail to see how that's a bad pick.

Ok, but what you’ve effectively said here is if everything possible goes not just right, but to such a degree that no one could have possibly predicted it with any credibility, it will be a good pick. No one in this top-heavy draft minus Bedard approaches a 50% chance to be as good at Matthew Tkachuk.

Whether you think Bedard even comes close to 50% depends on where you would rank Tkachuk today. I would say no.

 

[Magua]

I mean, if Ryan Leonard is Matt Tkachuk then I fail to see how that's a bad pick.

Counter thought: what if he doesn't play anything like Tkachuk -- he's just the most power forward-ish type on the board -- and has a 99.99% chance of not being Tkachuk?

I fail to see how anyone is a bad pick on draft day if the comparison is a Hart-caliber Hall of Fame type. Maybe Dvorsky can be this year's Bergeron.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Sounds like Hayes told Krug to stay in St Louis

One of the very best things about this trade is that once the smoke clears we will never again have to hear about Kevin's friends.

Can I join you in that garage, I will bring the black hooded robes so we can go out in style

The End-of-Days group-suicide posts are peak Kel posts. Great post.

 

[GKJ]

Maybe its mind games. It was reported Montreal is high on Leonard. Maybe this is the Flyers way of signaling to them not to trade back to 8 or we will take your guy.

More likely the beats will just throw every name out there before tomorrow night.

There’s an old adage from Isiah Thomas. Everyone lies at the draft.

 

[Flybynite]

Maybe this was posted earlier… Only untouchables are Cutter… and anyone with the Torts stamp of approval

25st

 

[Magua]

There’s an old adage from Isiah Thomas. Everyone lies at the draft.

You'd hope they were that clever. The issue is we're dealing with the one team who possibly can't lie and telegraphs every single move. Hell, Briere openly all but said they were taking Gauthier on a Quebec radio show the day of the last draft.

 

[Beef Invictus]

And the alternative was?
Who you gonna demote to give him enough PT to possibly increase his value while eating $7M in cap room next year?

It's funny that you think his spot is going to a prospect.

You can always wait to sell him to a team at FA. But unsurprisingly, the guy mentored by the Fletcher has zero sense of timing or maximizing player worth.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Does Leonard play with Cutter ?

 

[Random Forest]

I’m just YouTube scouting like the rest of us, but I don’t really get the “low ceiling” knock on Leonard. Maybe he’s not creative in the way a player like Benson is, but I don’t see what’s stopping him from having “straw that stirs the drink” potential like any other elite prospect.

 

[RANKKA]

Maybe this was posted earlier… Only untouchables are Cutter… and anyone with the Torts stamp of approval

avs will pay more

 

[Curufinwe]

avs will pay more

Makes more sense for them than St Louis, especially now.

 

[Laveuglette]

Preparing myself for nothing further happening. No additional 1st. No additional 2nd.

Wouldn't be surprised if we got another 1st by tomorrow and we flip it with the 7th for Michkov to SJ or Mtl. Mtl very open but I doubt Michkov is still there at 5. Ideally we would have Michkov and another 1st too, probably 22.

They need to trade Sanheim by July 1st if my understanding is correct

 

[Magua]

I’m just YouTube scouting like the rest of us, but I don’t really get the “low ceiling” knock on Leonard. Maybe he’s not creative in the way a player like Benson is, but I don’t see what’s stopping him from having “straw that stirs the drink” potential like any other elite prospect.

You said low ceiling. No one said low ceiling. He excels as a play-driver; he excels as a get-player; he is very good as a puck transporter. But he simply lacks the pass quality and high level creativity needed to be a "straw that stirs the drink" player offensively at ES or on the PP. It's not a sin to be a good complementary offensive player -- an athletic, give 'n go net drive guy -- with more talented players. Complementary does not mean deficient. This talk about him not actually being reliant on Smith/Perreault there, despite almost exclusively playing with them, strikes me as the rationalization part of taking him too high because of certain attributes.

As for YouTube, 17 NTDP u18 games are readily available here -- Watch Team USA .

 

[deadhead]

Maybe this was posted earlier… Only untouchables are Cutter… and anyone with the Torts stamp of approval

Since the 2nd rd pick is Toronto's, the package is worth slightly more than #25.
So Briere may have been hustling for #25.

 

[wankstifier]

They could have 3 or 4 picks in the 1st round this year. I don't get how they still have only 2

 

[Magua]

Orrrrrrr God Emperor Jorts doesn’t want one of his favorite players traded and is putting his foot down. We’ve also been told this is not a fire sale. Can’t imagine this team down Provorov, Hayes, and Laughton in one off-season. That’s how you fall into the abyss and never escape.

 

[Sombastate]

Can I join you in that garage, I will bring the black hooded robes so we can go out in style

Bring a cigar, and you got a deal

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Bring a cigar, and you got a deal

I have a connection for Cuban cigars if that's your thing

 

[Random Forest]

You said low ceiling. No one said low ceiling. He excels as a play-driver; he excels as a get-player; he is very good as a puck transporter. But he simply lacks the pass quality and high level creativity needed to be a "straw that stirs the drink" player offensively at ES or on the PP. It's not a sin to be a good complementary offensive player -- an athletic, give 'n go net drive guy -- with more talented players. Complementary does not mean deficient. This talk about him not actually being reliant on Smith/Perreault there, despite almost exclusively playing with them, strikes me as the rationalization part of taking him too high because of certain attributes.

As for YouTube, 17 NTDP u18 games are readily available here -- Watch Team USA .

Maybe! He was certainly used in a complementary role at the USNTDP alongside Smith and Perrault. I’m just not as convinced that this means he is destined to be “merely” complementary at the next level. To me, he does have attributes that *could* project him as a primary weapon. I think there’s more skill there than he gets credit for. He’s got hands and vision to go along with the tenacity and motor. I think he was more than just a good complement to those guys.

The Tkachuk comps are obviously stupid, but there are plenty of outcomes short of Tkachuk that would justify picking this type of player profile. If he had, say, a Ryan Kesler type career, that wouldn’t be a disappointment. And I think he reaches that outcome more often than, eg, Benson reaches his corresponding outcome.

 

[deadhead]

No one thinks Sanheim is worth a 1st with that contract?

 

[Deadpool8812]

Any cap dumps we can take advantage of?

 

[wankstifier]

Either they patched the leak or they're standing pat