Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Sombastate]

Really coming around to this opinion, and the sad thing is that might be just be a great pick. But i wouldn't be able to get excited about it.

its like a Bean and Cheese burrito. Yeah, I'm full. But.. am I satisfied? I am not.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It’s going to be one hour of railing on the fans who “don’t get it” and don’t worship at the altar of Torts, or love the edge Risto brings

He absolutely did defend this trade & Tortorella. But yeah this tweet was essentially getting at him defending himself against the notion that him leaking the trade when he did caused it to not happen.

 

[bennysflyers16]

ASF sure is an arrogant fella.

 

[GKJ]

He absolutely did defend this trade & Tortorella. But yeah this tweet was essentially getting at him defending himself against the notion that him leaking the trade when he did caused it to not happen.

He didn’t start the leaking though. He didn’t start just dumping names on the table. I don’t know that he named names at all.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

its like a Bean and Cheese burrito. Yeah, I'm full. But.. am I satisfied? I am not.

I like this analogy. Well done.

I have watched precious few prospects this year, but I think Reinbacher is an excellent example of what I mean when I say tiers should not be done via consensus high up in the NHL draft. When you do that, the milquetoast rises to the top.

I get why he’s popular. It’s difficult to look at him and think he’s unworthy of being a 1st rounder in some form. It’s just that when you get down to those solid but unspectacular types, making one of them a selection at 7OA is essentially saying you can reliably predict which of those types will be the best player. No one on the planet can do that.

So if you think there’s a star, you take him. And if not, you try to move down. Not because I’m telling you how smart I am or how smart my team is. It’s because I recognize the limitations of the information we all collectively have. We don’t know shit. Even teams. If your read is mild, trust the level of the read over the minutiae. Just take more swings.

 

[GKJ]

Sounds like the interview didn’t go well.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Sounds like the interview didn’t go well.

Or they don’t expect him to be there at 7 and don’t feel like they can move up.

 

[Magua]

"We need stars."

*takes only complementary, average passing players who can't run a PP or line with every top 5ish pick*

"Why do we not have stars after all these years?"

"I don't know!"

 

[AndHeMissedTheNet]

I figured it was more likely that Michkov would be gone before 7. I know there's people on here who'll be pissed if they take Leonard over Benson but ngl I'd be happy if Leonard was the pick.

 

[FlyerNutter]

This franchise is more open with things than a Wild West whorehouse.

Telegraph everything.

 

[LegionOfGloom]

I feel like I've seen rumors that Montreal wants Leonard. If this was a competent organization, I'd argue they leaked this as a way of telling Montreal to stop auctioning off their pick because if they want Leonard they need to stay at 5 and take him (so no letting Washington jump us).

But since this is as far from a competent organization as possible, I'm gonna go with sheer incompetence.

 

[Tarpongg]

Sounds like the interview didn’t go well.

Maybe this is a leap but perhaps it’s a smokescreen and they’ve decided not to telegraph every move?

 

[Curufinwe]

Sounds like Hayes told Krug to stay in St Louis

 

[Adam Warlock]

Sounds like the interview didn’t go well.

Maybe its mind games. It was reported Montreal is high on Leonard. Maybe this is the Flyers way of signaling to them not to trade back to 8 or we will take your guy.

More likely the beats will just throw every name out there before tomorrow night.

 

[bennysflyers16]

"We want elite talent."

*takes only complementary, average passing players who can't run a PP or line with every top 5ish pick*

"Why do we not have stars after all these years?"

"I don't know!"

What’s deal on Leonard ? Standard high floor Flyer pick ?

 

[Curufinwe]

What’s deal on Leonard ? Standard high floor Flyer pick ?

Might be taken high due to the current Tkachuk craze.

 

[SanBlom]

I just want to say that I haven’t been this interested in a while. Not sure if this is good or bad??

 

[Kelmitchell2]

We're gonna get Reinbacher tomorrow because he's the most boring player in the draft (not bad, just boring).

Its either that, or we're getting Will Smith, in which case I will trade my Tesla in for a gas car, so I can get sit in the garage with the engine running

Can I join you in that garage, I will bring the black hooded robes so we can go out in style

 

[Adam Warlock]

Sounds like Hayes told Krug to stay in St Louis

When I said the other day that Krug doesnt wanna play for Torts, I got lectured.

Clearly Kevin warned Krug.

 

[Magua]

What’s deal on Leonard ? Standard high floor Flyer pick ?

Fan favorite type. A really fun player; a guy who can drive possession and complement more skilled players in a multitude of ways. Doesn't slack as a support passer, but he's not a real playmaker. Has basically no pathway to being a star or the key offensive cog on any line at any strength. It's the type of pick you make if you want to model your team after the Tortorella Columbus Blue Jackets pre-Panarin and assemble as many hard working 50ish point guys as possible. There is virtually a 0% chance he ends up the best player at that spot in a re-draft. But you're chasing easy projections.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I like this analogy. Well done.

I have watched precious few prospects this year, but I think Reinbacher is an excellent example of what I mean when I say tiers should not be done via consensus high up in the NHL draft. When you do that, the milquetoast rises to the top.

I get why he’s popular. It’s difficult to look at him and think he’s unworthy of being a 1st rounder in some form. It’s just that when you get down to those solid but unspectacular types, making one of them a selection at 7OA is essentially saying you can reliably predict which of those types will be the best player. No one on the planet can do that.

So if you think there’s a star, you take him. And if not, you try to move down. Not because I’m telling you how smart I am or how smart my team is. It’s because I recognize the limitations of the information we all collectively have. We don’t know shit. Even teams. If your read is mild, trust the level of the read over the minutiae. Just take more swings.

Obviously most players towards the top are there because they’re some form of older, more mature. &/or further along in their development path at that time. Reinbacher it me feels like a guy who’s essentially just there because he’s the most mature of his peers & teams value that safeness.

Obviously when we incorporate historical data we know it’s easier to find higher end defensemen outside the top ten than it is to find higher end centers. Even with analytics at the NHL as well we know offensive impacts are more consistent than defensive impacts from year to year. For me to take a defensemen that high I have to really believe that the defender has that high end offensive capability like Dahlin, Makar, Werenski, Hughes, etc. (talking draft profile).

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Sounds like Hayes told Krug to stay in St Louis

 

[AndHeMissedTheNet]

Might be taken high due to the current Tkachuk craze.

I mean, if Ryan Leonard is Matt Tkachuk then I fail to see how that's a bad pick.

 

[Curufinwe]

I mean, if Ryan Leonard is Matt Tkachuk then I fail to see how that's a bad pick.

He’s probably not, but teams are hell bent on finding their Tkachuk now.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Fan favorite type. A really fun player; a guy who can drive possession and complement more skilled players in a multitude of ways. Doesn't slack as a support passer, but he's not a real playmaker. Has basically no pathway to being a star or the key offensive cog on any line at any strength. It's the type of pick you make if you want to model your team after the Tortorella Columbus Blue Jackets pre-Panarin and assemble as many hard working 50ish point guys as possible. There is virtually a 0% chance he ends up the best player at that spot in a re-draft. But you're chasing easy projections.

Perfect. So Jones and Torts are making the pick