Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[Kelmitchell2]

Where trades

Dead in the water at the moment

 

[chadateit]

Which forsberg trade? The acquiring or the departure?

My memory is hazy - there's been a lot of booze in my life since then. I am pretty sure it was the signing in Philly that brought him there as a veteran. I edited my initial post.

 

[Tripod]

So weird to have 2 trades, falling apart at the same time....and both times it's the other 2 teams causing the leaks?

Hmmmm....well there is another option who is the common denominator.

 

[deadhead]

Theres no law that you can only dress 3 RD. Losing Sanheim and Provy leaves a lot of minutes to be replaced...thered be time for TDA to play without blocking anyone. Guys get hurt, too.

My point is Danny is being forced trade him for peanuts because the coach hates him. He shouldnt have to put up with restrictions like that.

Danny is being forced to trade TDA for peanuts because after last season, due to his piss poor play, that's all he's worth.
Torts doesn't hate TDA, he's just frustrated that the kid has rocks for brains and kept making the same mistakes. He gave him every chance to succeed.

Carolina put him with Slavin to CYA, and used him in a sheltered role, they were aware of his limitations - which is why they only want him back on a 3rd pair salary ($2.5M). The fact that they'd trade for TDA rather than resign Ghost for the same role suggests Ghost's agent priced him out of their plans.

Fletcher overpaid (which I said at the time), hoping that coming home would motivate TDA - and to be fair, he kept his nose clean. But the Flyers lacked the kind of partner who could raise his game (one reason I think they're looking to trade Sanheim and traded Provorov - both solid players who can't elevate their partners, so they're more complementary than players you'd build around - compare to York, where every partner played better with than without him).

TDA played best with Seeler in a 3rd pair role, but that's also the slot where you want to shelter a rookie, be it Attard or Grans.

 

[GKJ]

It has to be such a gut punch to the higher ups that we are no on no trade lists lol.

And didn’t isn’t it modified , so we are super shit ?

His is a full no trade. He can only be waived.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

So weird to have 2 trades, falling apart at the same time....and both times it's the other 2 teams causing the leaks?

Hmmmm....well there is another option who is the common denominator.

Apparently it's not called falling apart, it's called taking time, as if last week the original Hayes deal didn't fall through and then they cycled back to re-work it, but it didn't fall through lol

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It has to be such a gut punch to the higher ups that we are no on no trade lists lol.

And didn’t isn’t it modified , so we are super shit ?

You re-submit the list yearly. So you can subtract & add teams based on league trends. I’d imagine the Flyers were a more recent add opposed to like an Arizona who might be a popular consistent team every year.

Edit: NVM it’s a full no trade so no need for a list. He’s got a 15 team no trade list that starts in 2025-2026.

 

[sa cyred]

Krug also sucks and has 4 years left at 6.5. I know they would have to retain but that is one shitty contract. And we would most likely flip him again.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Danny is being forced to trade TDA for peanuts because after last season, due to his piss poor play, that's all he's worth.
Torts doesn't hate TDA, he's just frustrated that the kid has rocks for brains and kept making the same mistakes. He gave him every chance to succeed.

Carolina put him with Slavin to CYA, and used him in a sheltered role, they were aware of his limitations - which is why they only want him back on a 3rd pair salary ($2.5M). The fact that they'd trade for TDA rather than resign Ghost for the same role suggests Ghost's agent priced him out of their plans.

Fletcher overpaid (which I said at the time), hoping that coming home would motivate TDA - and to be fair, he kept his nose clean. But the Flyers lacked the kind of partner who could raise his game (one reason I think they're looking to trade Sanheim and traded Provorov - both solid players who can't elevate their partners, so they're more complementary than players you'd build around - compare to York, where every partner played better with than without him).

TDA played best with Seeler in a 3rd pair role, but that's also the slot where you want to shelter a rookie, be it Attard or Grans.

So why not just keep him with Seeler and revisit trading him at the TDL when teams get desperate for D help?

Worst case, you have him the full year but can use one of your cap retaining options for another deal.

 

[Cody Webster]

It's the Blues, not the Flyers, have screwed this up. It's their player holding up the works, and it's obvious they didn't do their homework.

As far as Carolina, again, it's Carolina that's responsible for the snag.

What is apparent is that Trader Dan is serious about a rebuild - and some more moves are coming this summer.

Trader Dan's biggest problem is a number of contending teams are without a 2023 1st (or at least one commiserate with player value, i.e. not taking #28 for TK). In that case, there's no rush to make a deal, if we're talking 2024 and 2025 picks and prospects, those deals can be made after the draft or even after the first week of FA, when all the prime (not many this year) FAs are signed and a few other players (Hanifin, etc.) are traded.

Slurp slurp slurp

Only took a few weeks for you to hop on Danny's nuts

 

[TCTC]

It's all we have at this point until the flyers right the wrong they've done for the last decade plus, they really deserve the negativity

I don't get it, tbh. Why spend so much time and energy on something if you see nothing positive in it? Couldn't be me.
(Not directed at you personally, just in general)

 

[Tripod]

Danny is being forced to trade TDA for peanuts because after last season, due to his piss poor play, that's all he's worth.
Torts doesn't hate TDA, he's just frustrated that the kid has rocks for brains and kept making the same mistakes. He gave him every chance to succeed.

Carolina put him with Slavin to CYA, and used him in a sheltered role, they were aware of his limitations - which is why they only want him back on a 3rd pair salary ($2.5M). The fact that they'd trade for TDA rather than resign Ghost for the same role suggests Ghost's agent priced him out of their plans.

Fletcher overpaid (which I said at the time), hoping that coming home would motivate TDA - and to be fair, he kept his nose clean. But the Flyers lacked the kind of partner who could raise his game (one reason I think they're looking to trade Sanheim and traded Provorov - both solid players who can't elevate their partners, so they're more complementary than players you'd build around - compare to York, where every partner played better with than without him).

TDA played best with Seeler in a 3rd pair role, but that's also the slot where you want to shelter a rookie, be it Attard or Grans.

All this bullshit to defend....

...and yet you are ok putting Zamula on the 2nd pair with Risto or Walker.

So much for sheltering a rookie.

You are the kid who digs a hole at the beach right at the water line.

 

[sa cyred]

So why not just keep him with Seeler and revisit trading him at the TDL when teams get desperate for D help?

Worst case, you have him the full year but can use one of your cap retaining options for another deal.

I honestly do think Danny knows people hate this team. I do think part of it is to try and get rid of these players now. See if they actually want to replace them with young and fresher players. That’s the only way I see they getting butts in the seats, recharge the focus to “look we are making changes! Young and exciting”

Atleast this is what I hope is the idea

 

[Prongo]

JP Rutherford is saying if the Sanheim/Krug part of the deal falls apart, the blues still will do the late first for Hayes retained….. Armstrong is a moron.

 

[Rebels57]

Somebody is jumping the gun & it’s very likely from the Flyers’ end. It’s been done multiple times now. Probably not surprising when you have a lot of first timer’s within your higher up structure.

 

[Tripod]

Krug also sucks and has 4 years left at 6.5. I know they would have to retain but that is one shitty contract. And we would most likely flip him again.

That's the thing...Krug is just as bad...if not worse...a contract than Hayes. And yet Flyers retain? And Sanheim is worth a late 1st on his own.

The trade as leaked is awful for the Flyers.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I don't get it, tbh. Why spend so much time and energy on something if you see nothing positive in it? Couldn't be me.
(Not directed at you personally, just in general)

Because I've loved this team as long as I can remember and unfortunately I enjoy sports way to much to just to stop caring, and they've gotten to the point where they've been so ridiculously bad that the only way I can still care is to laugh and trash them, there was a time where I'd watch the Flyers game over absolutely any other philly sports team even the eagles who I love just as much, hockey's been my #1 sport, but it's become such a chore

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

DeAngelo got healthy scratched for like the remaining five games to close the season out. Like one of those games with like five defensemen being played.

The writing was on the wall from that point on he wasn’t coming back. If an outsider like myself can see that so can an NHL team like Carolina.

 

[Tripod]

JP Rutherford is saying if the Sanheim/Krug part of the deal falls apart, the blues still will do the late first for Hayes retained….. Armstrong is a moron.

Want what? In that case just freaking do the Hayes part and keep Travis. Another team will offer better than a cap dump.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

JP Rutherford is saying if the Sanheim/Krug part of the deal falls apart, the blues still will do the late first for Hayes retained….. Armstrong is a moron.

I would still be thankful for that moron

 

[BringBackFletcher]

As much as we all and I'm sure the organization wants to turn this roster over, time is on our side since we should be rebuilding. So if this complicated deal isn't lucrative, it shouldn't be forced.

TDA can be pumped up easily this year to the point where you aren't tying up a retention slot and getting at least a mid round pick at the deadline.

Hayes the same, if the right deal isn't there, revisit at the deadline or next offseason.

For Sanheim, there's really no need to move him right now either, any trade with him involved is going to be sub-optimal

 

[Danko]

Yeah f*** it, keep Travis for now lol

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

The leaked trade is swapping rosters. I've also heard it involves no picks and Kyrou's name.

This is some of the worst reporting i've seen in a major sport.

 

[Curufinwe]

As much as we all and I'm sure the organization wants to turn this roster over, time is on our side since we should be rebuilding. So if this complicated deal isn't lucrative, it shouldn't be forced.

TDA can be pumped up easily this year to the point where you aren't tying up a retention slot and getting at least a mid round pick at the deadline.

Hayes the same, if the right deal isn't there, revisit at the deadline or next offseason.

For Sanheim, there's really no need to move him right now either, any trade with him involved is going to be sub-optimal

Angelo will never play another game here. See LoD’s post above.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

DeAngelo got healthy scratched for like the remaining five games to close the season out. Like one of those games with like five defensemen being played.

The writing was on the wall from that point on he wasn’t coming back. If an outsider like myself can see that so can an NHL team like Carolina.

Like it’s not surprising most of these guys on the outs are guys Tortorella had incidents with this year.