Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 2, More Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions: Say It Like You Mean It

[JojoTheWhale]

I like Dickinson for what I think he is — way more than Yakemchuk — but that would be a colossal mistake brought to you by the team that took Provorov #7. I don’t see high end offensive upside, ES or PP.

But imagine Bonk and Dickinson playing together in the NHL. Adorable! The Flyers organizational team building strategy in GIF form:

I have barely watched any Dickinson, but the production and age combo alone is enough for me not to be pissed as a pure pick. It might not be what I would do at 7, but I see the path.

The other option means I'm staring down the barrel of trying to convince myself a lottery pick offensive Defenseman can become even an average passer. That is hell.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I like Dickinson for what I think he is — way more than Yakemchuk — but that would be a colossal mistake brought to you by the team that took Provorov #7. And they didn’t trade up for him. I don’t see high end offensive upside, ES or PP.

But imagine Bonk and Dickinson playing together in the NHL. Adorable! The Flyers organizational team building strategy in GIF form:

Maybe I am remembering this wrong, but I thought everyone loved that pick when it happened?

i hope its philly thats been trashing Demidov to other teams to lower his value, move up and draft him.

That would be ideal.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Well, this could lead in quite a few directions.

Pure trade up from #12 to #7? TK package for #7? Chychrun trade? Pinto, Joseph?

If we get #7 I am going to be sweating out the Demidov news for the next 9 days.

It's gonna be Pinto just for the gambling meme potential

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Maybe I am remembering this wrong, but I thought everyone loved that pick when it happened?

Most did. Some did not and pointed out many of the flaws that ultimately capped his career. I can tell you I loved it. What did I know? What the handful of draft sites said. That's not an opinion worth hearing.

We've come orders of magnitude in availability of data and film in the last 9 years.

 

[GKJ]

I don’t entirely disagree. It’s very hard to pick swap top 10, as I’ve said countless times, but for the right guy, it can be worth exploring. You just have to operate under the assumption it is for the right guy. This team hasn’t earned that evaluative trust. Looking at the board, it’s a real 50-50 whether they’d f*** it up, no hindsight needed.

More importantly, it’s a life or death necessity to trade up to #7 brought to you by the team that says high picks aren’t important — they were giddy believing they made the playoffs — and they can build a core with 2nd rounders and bubblegum. But #12 + extra assets is a non-starter. I can’t remember the last time this team had any logical cohesion.

It’s fine to not trust them, but they’re not going to operate that way. They need high-end talent and they’re trying to put themselves in better position to do that.

 

[GKJ]

 

[Fire Tortorella]

Using additional assets to select another defenseman leaves me very concerned with what the plan is to get a high end (or potential high end) center, let alone more winger talent.

 

[FlyTimmo]

I like Dickinson for what I think he is — way more than Yakemchuk — but that would be a colossal mistake brought to you by the team that took Provorov #7. And they didn’t trade up for him. I don’t see high end offensive upside, ES or PP.

But imagine Bonk and Dickinson playing together in the NHL. Adorable! The Flyers organizational team building strategy in GIF form:

Prioritizing Dickinson when Buium exists would be pretty on-brand.

 

[renberg]

I doubt that Konecny is in this deal. The Senators and Flyers do match up as good trading partners. Giroux could have an impact on this deal. He always talked highly about Farabee. If he has the ear of Ottawa's management he might be pushing to obtain Joel. Could be Philly giving up #12, Farabee and Frost for #7 and Pinto. The Sens were not happy with Pinto for the suspension last season. If the deal is a huge one, Ristolainen, Laughton and Chychryn could be involved.

 

[Magua]

I have barely watched any Dickinson, but the production and age combo alone is enough for me not to be pissed as a pure pick. It might not be what I would do at 7, but I see the path.

The other option means I'm staring down the barrel of trying to convince myself a lottery pick offensive Defenseman can become even an average passer. That is hell.

Pissed? No, not about the player. The value? Yes. I said this to Toe in October:

I think Dickinson has good not great puck skills. It's entirely functional; I just don't think he's some future 50-60 point guy. I don't think he's an elite PP guy. I do think he's a very good puck transporter and exit/entry passer under pressure. Good on his backhand. His skating is his plus tool. I think he's on the more advanced side defensively. I don't think he possesses amazing creativity, but it shows in spurts. It might be I find his upper body stiff, although he's pretty good at turning off pressure and shielding pucks. Maybe he's a #2 type? I enjoy his games though.

I would be skeptical it moves the needle. On top of the opportunity cost of another ultra high value defensive prospect who isn’t a slam dunk offensive creator (he’s more skilled than Yakemchuk without a second thought). I haven’t watched since the fall though.

 

[Danko]

Okay - please...can we just make a decision on Laughton FFS. This dude has been mentioned for years in rumors.

 

[GKJ]

Okay - please...can we just make a decision on Laughton FFS. This dude has been mentioned for years in rumors.

Last years rumors were only ever about Michkov. Laughton was only getting moved if it served that.

 

[Danko]

Sanderson, Jake	8 UFA		LD	NHL	Draft	21	9.1	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000
Chabot, Thomas "A"	4 UFA	M-NTC	LD	NHL	Draft	27	9.1	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	UFA
Chychrun, Jakob	1 UFA	M-NTC	LD/RD	NHL	Trade	26	5.2	$4,600,000	UFA
Zub, Artem	3 UFA	M-NTC	RD	NHL	Signed	28	5.2	$4,600,000	$4,600,000	$4,600,000	UFA
Hamonic, Travis	1 UFA	NMC	RD	NHL	Signed	33	1.3	$1,100,000	UFA
Bernard-Docker, Jacob	1 RFA		RD	NHL	Draft	23	0.9	$805,000	RFA
Brännström, Erik	0 RFA

 

[Strawberry Fields]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803518963634385318

This is just gonna be Flyers/Blues from last summer all over again, isn't it?

 

[freakydallas13]

Zack MacEwen is a Senator. Locked up for 2 years for pennies. I'm just saying.

Say less.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Laughton + 12 for Pinto + 7 is missing something significant from the Flyers.

I don't know how to have the discussion on what it's missing because the way some teams value Laughton is too far outside out of reasonable. Pinto also wanted 5MM...

 

[TheKingPin]

This is likely a good thing. I am hoping they keep 12 and package the 32nd and Farabee or whatever for the 7th. Get a very good player at 12 but maybe get your top line or top pair guys at 7.

Thanks Chuck.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803517107164029196

Charlie has only been saying top 10 picks never get traded on his podcast. This post tells me the rumor is legit.

 

[Danko]

Zub is Russian

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Zub is Russian

he was the first name I mentally circled after Chychrun

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I reserve the right to be positive on only one tiny aspect of the deal if Brannstrom is the Defenseman and he's given away for peanuts. There have been some damn solid metrics when he plays.

He's not, but we all cope in our own ways.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I sure do love this time of year where all the wanna be insiders throw shit at the wall to try and get some clout.

 

[Curufinwe]

Chychrun’s dad played for Philly. The goal of the Flyers as an organization is not to win, but to do solids for former Flyers.

 

[freakydallas13]

12 + Scotty 2 Laughty for 7 and I'm a happy camper.

Sanderson, Jake	8 UFA		LD	NHL	Draft	21	9.1	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000	$8,050,000
Chabot, Thomas "A"	4 UFA	M-NTC	LD	NHL	Draft	27	9.1	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	UFA
Chychrun, Jakob	1 UFA	M-NTC	LD/RD	NHL	Trade	26	5.2	$4,600,000	UFA
Zub, Artem	3 UFA	M-NTC	RD	NHL	Signed	28	5.2	$4,600,000	$4,600,000	$4,600,000	UFA
Hamonic, Travis	1 UFA	NMC	RD	NHL	Signed	33	1.3	$1,100,000	UFA
Bernard-Docker, Jacob	1 RFA		RD	NHL	Draft	23	0.9	$805,000	RFA
Brännström, Erik	0 RFA

Oh ffs

 

[Danko]

Chychrun’s dad played for Philly. The goal of the Flyers as an organization is not to win, but to do solids for former Flyers.

Jake Sanderson's to

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Chychrun’s dad played for Philly. The goal of the Flyers as an organization is not to win, but to do solids for former Flyers.

Get Boucher while they're at it. His dad is on the future President of Hockey Operations path with the organization after all.