Seravalli: "There are growing concerns that some Canadian Teams are handcuffed at the TDL because of No Trade Clauses" Vetoing trades to Canada

[Double Dion]

Alright, I laughed a hell of a lot.

With that said, I'm pretty sure I'd take Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver over 90 percent of NHL American cities.

I'm Canadian and I sure wouldn't. Montreal especially.

 

[Three On Zero]

I have suspected this effect has been amplified post-COVID, but nobody is admitting it.

Because it hasn’t

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Perception tho I think plays a role. Winnipeg is pretty much Minnesota north. Dudes who enjoy hunting fishing and out doors would love it and do. We just have this perception about us. Most these guys see the airport to the arena. That’s not a good stretch there. If I’m unknown to Winnipeg I see that stretch and go… nope.

But if I’m living here I know there’s 2 huge lakes less than an hour away. I know lake of the woods is close. It’s perception. And just some guys don’t want the pressure. As a former player myself, that surprises me. My dream growing up was to play for a Canadian team. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I'm Canadian and I sure wouldn't. Montreal especially.

Where you from?

All three are super cosmopolitan.

 

[Three On Zero]

I'm Canadian and I sure wouldn't. Montreal especially.

Montreal is a complete different issue. It’s a beautiful place but unless you’re a French Canadian you’ll never really “like it”

 

[Coffee]

Alright, I laughed a hell of a lot.

With that said, I'm pretty sure I'd take Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver over 90 percent of NHL American cities.

American here, I get Vancouver and Montreal, don’t see much appeal for Toronto.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Montreal is a complete different issue. It’s a beautiful place but unless you’re a French Canadian you’ll never really “like it”

You don't need to speak French to live in Montreal. There's locals who don't or barely speak it.

 

[izlez]

Mentioned how Kuzmenko had Calgary and other Canadian Teams on his no trade clause but luckily waived it to eventually allow the trade to Calgary.

Or to put it another way: Of his 12 team no trade clause, Kuzmenko had at least 8 American teams on it.

 

[TruGr1t]

Because it hasn’t

Believe what you want.

 

[Evergreen]

Is another reason why Canadian teams don’t win. They only access to like 30% of the players Americans do.

I don’t think you can group all American teams together like that. The Coyotes and the Rangers simply do not have equal access to players.

 

[I am Canadian]

That and players don't necessarily want to play In Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal where they are criticized for playing poorly and get recognized in public

 

[UrbanImpact]

I dont think people really understand why NHLers have Canadian Teams on their NTCs;

Yes, city, environment, lakes, oceans, quality of life etc play a big role in that but i think the number one reason alot of Canadian teams are on NTCs is because of the pressure, media coverage and fan obessesion.


I dont know if American fans actually realize how big Hockey is in Canada.

Litterally if you turn on sports radio right now in Canada, you will get 6 hrs of hockey coverage even when there is no games. You might get lucky to hear 15 minutes worth of Super Bowl talk this week.

When a Canadian team goes on a road trip, there are probably 6-10 journalists that travel with them to cover the games.

Think about the job you do , imagine if you can do that job in peace vs doing it with 10x more pressure, and X amount more of people dissecting your work.

Alot of players dont want that pressure and its understandable.

Now add that pressure plus the cold weather and some cities not being so "posh and upsacale" cities in Canada and thats where you get all the NTCs.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Toronto. I wouldn’t wanna play there. But I wouldn’t say no. That’s a pressure market. I’m not sure about that one honestly. The rest. I’d take all of them over places ppl don’t care.

 

[Romang67]

I looked into this a while ago, and to the posters claiming that this isn't anything new, that just isn't true. The number of players with NMC/NTC included in contracts (according to Capfriendly) has grown from 57 players 15 years, to 162 10 years ago, to 176 5 years ago, to a staggering 245 this season.

There are roughly 1500 active contracts in the league this year, of which 500 are entry level contracts which can't include those clauses. Of the remaining 1000 active players, about 25% have NTC/NMC.

I understand it's easy to point and laugh at the less desirable teams (fun too), but this is genuinely becoming a pretty dire problem for the league.

 

[Three On Zero]

You don't need to speak French to live in Montreal. There's locals who don't or barely speak it.

I didn’t say you need to speak it, but it’s raises issues when you don’t.

 

[Dan Patrick]

Same as it ever was

 

[um]

Is another reason why Canadian teams don’t win. They only access to like 30% of the players Americans do.

It seems like most cup winners are built through the draft anyways, except Vegas of course.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

American here, I get Vancouver and Montreal, don’t see much appeal for Toronto.

Montreal and Vancouver hold more appeal for me personally as well but it's hard to argue with Toronto's influence and stature. It'd be something like the third biggest city in the US. Montreal itself is like the tenth most populous city in North America.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The deadline is overrated anyway. More winners have tweaked the middle of their rosters in quality than made game changing acquisitions at the top. Don't let fan excitement about winning the trade deadline arms race fool you.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I'd be curious if this affects all of Canada or only the smaller markets.

The Canadian big three cities have never struck me as ever struggling to acquire or re-sign Americans or Europeans to their teams.

Europeans don't care where they play when they start out in the NHL. They just want to be in the NHL. Europeans don't want to be in the A for a long time, otherwise they're going back home to make more money in a familiar culture.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Obvious solution

Move all Canadian teams to America

 

[Russian_fanatic]

By some Canadian teams you mean Calgary, Edmonton, and Winnipeg right?

Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal don't have this problem.

 

[Robtom18]

Well looks like buchys price just went up. He has a 12 team no trade list so 20 teams most likely include canadian teams.

 

[Miller Time]

Vancouver with only like 2 Canadian players on the active rosterView attachment 814039

Wonder if the weather has anything to do with it

 

[Three On Zero]

By some Canadian teams you mean Calgary, Edmonton, and Winnipeg right?

Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal don't have this problem.

Poor Ottawa