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Seravalli: "There are growing concerns that some Canadian Teams are handcuffed at the TDL because of No Trade Clauses" Vetoing trades to Canada

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This is going to be an even further issue when we expand to 34 teams.

The only solution honestly would be GMs not handing out these clauses like candy. I get it for the superstars, but it gets a bit ridiculous when the Nic Deslauriers of the league have them.
 
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CanadienShark said:
Your post is very confusing. A lot of them do not spend significant amounts of time in all cities. Most of their trips are short and infrequent. I'm not sure why you feel the need to go on the attack. My point is they are exposed to very little cultural variation, since we're again talking about a small subset of North America.
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Nobody knows what it’s like to be a hockey player in any of these cites more than other hockey players. The exact people these guys spend most of their time with, a lot of them who have played for these teams.

They know better than any of us if it’s a place they would like to spend their career/life. That’s it.
 
Romang67 said:
I looked into this a while ago, and to the posters claiming that this isn't anything new, that just isn't true. The number of players with NMC/NTC included in contracts (according to Capfriendly) has grown from 57 players 15 years, to 162 10 years ago, to 176 5 years ago, to a staggering 245 this season.

There are roughly 1500 active contracts in the league this year, of which 500 are entry level contracts which can't include those clauses. Of the remaining 1000 active players, about 25% have NTC/NMC.

I understand it's easy to point and laugh at the less desirable teams (fun too), but this is genuinely becoming a pretty dire problem for the league.
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I also did some digging in Capfriendly. There are roughly 500-600 NHL players who are eligible to have trade clauses. Out those, about 400 have a cap hit of 1 million or more. Three players below million cap hit have a NTC.

So my very rough estimate is that 60% of players that are eligible for a NTC, have a NTC. When excluding the minor leaguers and 13th F / 7th D types, it's about 65%.
 
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its been a problem for a long time

no trade clauses themselves are not the problem, the issue likely lies more in the fact that the GM's give them out like candy on halloween night.
 
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IWantSakicAsMyGM said:
If I were a rich young athlete, my preference would be to earn my millions in a US city where I can go out in public and usually not get recognized by anyone, and not have to worry about what the local media said about me today because "the local media" only like 3 blogs that no one reads.
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If it were me, I wouldn't even give too much of a shit about articles. That's just sports. It's going out and being approached in public.
 
why do players not like playing in canada generally? Weather/media/management/publicity overwhelm? Have they done any player surveys about this that are available?
 
UrbanImpact said:
He mentioned he has spoken to 1-2 Canadian Team GMs who have expressed that they might be handcuffed because alot of the players they are targeting have some Canadian teams on their "No Trade Clauses"

Also reflected on how the two big trades so far Lindholm, Monahan are from Canadian to Canadian teams because those players dont mind playing in Canada and perhaps why Canucks and Jets targeted them.

Mentioned how Kuzmenko had Calgary and other Canadian Teams on his no trade clause but luckily waived it to eventually allow the trade to Calgary.

Thoughts?

Is this going to be a problem for Canadian contending teams at this years trade deadline?
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This isn't really new is it?
 
fasterthanlight said:
why do players not like playing in canada generally? Weather/media/management/publicity overwhelm? Have they done any player surveys about this that are available?
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Crappy weather (yes even you Vancouver) relative to many US cities, bad travel, being recoginized everywhere you go (grocery store, movie theater, shopping mall, dropping your kids off at school, harsh media treatment if things aren't going well), etc. etc. In the US no one gives a shit about hockey players, you can do whatever you want, be in as big of a slump as imaginable, and go anywhere without being bothered.
 
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josra33 said:
Lindholm and Monahan didn't have No Trade Clauses...

At least according to Capfriendly
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Monahan had an understanding with Habs management, though.

It's also possible that Winnipeg went for him more agressively if other options appeared to have NTC.
 
pth2 said:
Monahan had an understanding with Habs management, though.

It's also possible that Winnipeg went for him more agressively if other options appeared to have NTC.
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Chevy stated today the urgency to get a centre increased after Lindholm was traded, so Chevy didn’t want to miss out on filling a need at centre and pulled the trigger.
 
Maybe for a chance to win the cup, they want to just battle other NHL teams, not other NHL teams + the refs?
 
I think a team like Columbus or Arizona struggle much more than Canadian teams to attract free agents or get players to not put them on NTCs. It's not as black and white as Canada vs USA. Some markets are more attractive than others. Vancouver and Toronto are more attractive than Winnipeg or Alberta's teams naturally because they are more interesting metropolitan cities. Montreal is probably somewhere in the middle.
 
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I think the NTC/NMC issue is somewhat overstated. A lot of guys will waive to go from a team out of the playoffs onto a contender. Guys that won't...well, do you really want those guys on your team anyway?

There are a total of 245 contracts with NMC or NTC clauses. 22.5% of those are already playing on Canadian teams. And bunch of others you wouldn't really want anyway (too expensive, injured, old, or just not great players...e.g. Ben Chiarot - I guarantee you that no Canadian team is a Ben Chiarot away from hoisting the Cup).
 
IWantSakicAsMyGM said:
If I were a rich young athlete, my preference would be to earn my millions in a US city where I can go out in public and usually not get recognized by anyone, and not have to worry about what the local media said about me today because "the local media" only like 3 blogs that no one reads.
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I question how well known some of these athletes are without their equipment in Canadian cities. I still recall being in Urban Fair in downtown Vancouver and seeing Daniel Sedin shopping and nobody other than me noticing or paying attention. At least in bigger cities, I don't think it's really that much of a problem for these athletes.
 
EchoesoftheEighties said:
If I was a young in shape millionaire, Miami or LA are more attractive options than Winnipeg or Calgary.

Shocker
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Id like to think it also depends on what point they are in their career and their lives

Maybe some don’t want to move to Canada if they’ve already started a family somewhere and their roots are in that city and don’t want to go especially mid season. but also maybe some are more willing to move if it means better opportunity to win or even more money
 
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